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NXcoupe
08-26-2021, 11:41 PM
So, I thought I'd pick up from here as to what's up with my car. Plenty of you have seen it go down the track and know it's just scratching the surface of what it's potential is. I'm cool with it, as I wanted to take baby steps since I've not ran anything fast since 2011. I think I've done ok so far with keeping it under control and being able to progress with it. A few weeks ago, towards the end of July, I turned the boost up from approx 14 psi up to 19. I also changed out the trans controller with the GEN 1 quick 6 controller. I didn't soften the shifts up, I had increased the shift firmness with the GEN 2 controller because the shifts were slipping and it wasn't working as well as the GEN 1. It started lifting the wheels on the 1-2 shift and on the 2-3 shift. I didn't think anything of it, and just kept rockin it like a dumbass. So 3 weeks ago, I was doing my license passes, and I was on my first full pass for it, when it shifted from 2 to 3 and all hell broke loose. All kinds of noise under the car and I got it under control, and pulled to the right in case I was leaking anything. I wasn't, but when I got out my left wheel was hanging out of the wheelwell. It wasn't until later when I was strapping it down that I figured out what happened. Check out the pics.
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Since I have no shop, this is how I've been fixing it.
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I got it all back together except for the anti roll bar and I need to get a new tube in my slick, I think it ripped the valve stem from the shock.
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k062693w
08-27-2021, 12:30 AM
So, I thought I'd pick up from here as to what's up with my car. Plenty of you have seen it go down the track and know it's just scratching the surface of what it's potential is. I'm cool with it, as I wanted to take baby steps since I've not ran anything fast since 2011. I think I've done ok so far with keeping it under control and being able to progress with it. A few weeks ago, towards the end of July, I turned the boost up from approx 14 psi up to 19. I also changed out the trans controller with the GEN 1 quick 6 controller. I didn't soften the shifts up, I had increased the shift firmness with the GEN 2 controller because the shifts were slipping and it wasn't working as well as the GEN 1. It started lifting the wheels on the 1-2 shift and on the 2-3 shift. I didn't think anything of it, and just kept rockin it like a dumbass. So 3 weeks ago, I was doing my license passes, and I was on my first full pass for it, when it shifted from 2 to 3 and all hell broke loose. All kinds of noise under the car and I got it under control, and pulled to the right in case I was leaking anything. I wasn't, but when I got out my left wheel was hanging out of the wheelwell. It wasn't until later when I was strapping it down that I figured out what happened. Check out the pics.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51404238757_f733ec8ef6_c.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51405745364_539af5871d_c.jpg
Since I have no shop, this is how I've been fixing it.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51404240622_6609a95a4e_c.jpg
I got it all back together except for the anti roll bar and I need to get a new tube in my slick, I think it ripped the valve stem from the shock.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51404991186_a303c7aedb_c.jpg
Glad it's coming back together Mike !!!
Definitely has more in it !!!
draggin50
08-27-2021, 06:17 AM
I did the exact same thing on a set of UPR uppers a while back on the orange Cobra. Luckily mine was right at the launch so I didn't hurt much but a new tire.
That car is gonna fly once its all sorted out.
Maximus
08-27-2021, 10:35 AM
WHoops!!
*Planning on checking my UPR uppers when I get home.
NXcoupe
08-27-2021, 12:12 PM
I did the exact same thing on a set of UPR uppers a while back on the orange Cobra. Luckily mine was right at the launch so I didn't hurt much but a new tire.
That car is gonna fly once its all sorted out.
WHoops!!
*Planning on checking my UPR uppers when I get home.
These were 21 years old. I called UPR and Sharad sent out new uppers and sphericals with the upgraded 1/2" hardware to me, no questions asked. I'm sending the broke one back to them. I have also softened the shift points up considerably, so no more wheelies on shifts, which is disappointing to the show off in me, but more sensible so I don't break this bitch again. Just when you think you've covered every base and made it unbreakable, it shows you how wrong you were.
Just glad I didn't lose the car. I was close to 100 when it came apart. It was going to be a hell of a run, but it was only 17 psi after looking at the log. I'm still messing with the PID controls in the boost controller. I may just say screw it and go with an air compressor and dome control, but for now, I look at it as a challenge and am working the problem to get it under control and do what I want it to. Can't wait to get the dyno done so I can get this back onto it and dial this shit in easier.
Walter
08-27-2021, 02:03 PM
I bet the jam nut loosened up, and allowed the threaded male adjuster to wobble in the female threaded portion. Pic shows nut is backed all the way off. Uppers being pulled apart under load over and over until the threads failed.
NXcoupe
08-28-2021, 09:42 AM
I bet the jam nut loosened up, and allowed the threaded male adjuster to wobble in the female threaded portion. Pic shows nut is backed all the way off. Uppers being pulled apart under load over and over until the threads failed.
Nope, it was tight. I had it adjusted in almost all the way. Both adjusters were tight as possible. It just failed. If it did loosen any, it was because the threads had started to stretch and failed as a result. New ones are torqued as well.
NXcoupe
09-07-2021, 04:40 PM
Well, went Friday and as I said in another post edgewater let me down. I got my money back and was able to get a partial run in at least for some logging. I put a used set of injectors in that I had cleaned and flowed. One of them was suspect but I gave it a try as it seemed to clean up and work well. It was working right uo til I started it for the third or fourth time with the goofy kid at the lanes kept walking over like we were next, so I'd start it and then the idiot would walk away. So the time he actually was pulling us forward, it starts misfiring.
So I pulled out all the injectors and it turned out to be the suspect one and it was on the passenger side. I flowed and tested all of them while I had them out and they all work great except one. I put an order into Holley for 2 new 120lb inj and hopefully I'll have them before Friday.
k062693w
09-08-2021, 07:48 PM
Well, went Friday and as I said in another post edgewater let me down. I got my money back and was able to get a partial run in at least for some logging. I put a used set of injectors in that I had cleaned and flowed. One of them was suspect but I gave it a try as it seemed to clean up and work well. It was working right uo til I started it for the third or fourth time with the goofy kid at the lanes kept walking over like we were next, so I'd start it and then the idiot would walk away. So the time he actually was pulling us forward, it starts misfiring.
So I pulled out all the injectors and it turned out to be the suspect one and it was on the passenger side. I flowed and tested all of them while I had them out and they all work great except one. I put an order into Holley for 2 new 120lb inj and hopefully I'll have them before Friday.
Let me know when you plan on going again !!!
I have our annual Gun Bash this weekend ...
NXcoupe
09-08-2021, 08:02 PM
This Friday night, then next thursday. Provided my injector shows up and weather cooperates. Update! Just got a shipping notification from Holley!
k062693w
09-08-2021, 08:07 PM
This Friday night, then next thursday. Provided my injector shows up and weather cooperates. Update! Just got a shipping notification from Holley!
Next Thursday would work ...
Speaking of injectors, I'll be needing 4 larger ones here before long ...
cstreu1026
09-08-2021, 10:38 PM
This Friday night, then next thursday. Provided my injector shows up and weather cooperates. Update! Just got a shipping notification from Holley!
Got a spare trailer? Maybe I’ll throw a battery in the hoopty and break the engine in properlyz
draggin50
09-09-2021, 06:30 AM
This Friday night, then next thursday. Provided my injector shows up and weather cooperates. Update! Just got a shipping notification from Holley!
Next thursday at Kilkare? If so Ill make a showing as well, probably with just a camera.
NXcoupe
09-09-2021, 10:01 PM
Nope edgewater.
NXcoupe
09-09-2021, 10:01 PM
Got a spare trailer? Maybe I’ll throw a battery in the hoopty and break the engine in properlyz
Depends on if Neil goes, if not you could use the enclosed
NXcoupe
03-01-2023, 10:01 AM
Bring this back up. Lots of things to update.
Maximus
03-01-2023, 11:49 AM
Bring this back up. Lots of things to update.
Well thats not a very cool update.....:postpix:
NXcoupe
03-01-2023, 02:13 PM
Well thats not a very cool update.....:postpix:
Lol, was going to edit the post later with pics and more description! I'll update this evening. Can't do the pics from my phone.
NXcoupe
03-08-2023, 08:41 PM
So long overdue for an update on this thing. Last year, I just was in a funk, dunno what it was, but just didn't feel like going to the track. I only made it out in January and then at one test n tune and a track rental. I was pretty consumed with getting this stupid shop going, but anyway, fun Mike is back and I'm ready to horsepower party again!
Here's the update, last pass I made was at the 90% fully prepped track at E2O, lol. The car pulled hard to the left all the way down the track. It was dangerous to say the least, especially when I hit the 10% of unprepped track. lol. I figured out my car had a thrust angle that was pretty exaggerated. I studied underneath it, and found the upper control arms didn't look right. I pulled them off and This is what I found:
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Ended up being about 1/2" difference from left to right. I adjust them, and made them the same length. The longer one was loose and had spun its way out. I shortened it to match the other one, and put them in a vice and torqued them to an inch of their little lives. That will some how come back to bite me in the ass, but time will tell. I also numbered the flutes on both so I can turn them and it's a no brainer to figure out if they are the same.
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NXcoupe
03-08-2023, 08:51 PM
The other thing that was bugging the crap out of me was the placement of the anti roll bar. The damn thing hit the upper control arms just driving through the pits and unloading off the trailer. It also banged hard on launch. I cut that bitch out of there! I used my new plasma cutter and it cut like butter, a little too well. But I got it all ground down, and plated over them with my new welder. You can see the arms are bent from the upper control arm pulling apart 2 years ago, I tried straightening them out as best I could, but to no avail. New one is on order from UPR care of Sharad Radiris, who helped me out big time with a weld your own kit.
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Thanks to my wonderful wife for getting me the new welder for Christmas last year! I ended up with a couple holes in the frame rails, but not a big deal.
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I removed the upper CA and the coil overs as well to gain access to do all this.
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NXcoupe
03-08-2023, 08:58 PM
Next on the list was to patch up those holes. I cut some .080" plate and fit it to the holes. I ground them smooth and cleaned up around them so the weld would go smooth. It did except in one place where I burned through. It was really tight quarters welding that up, it sucked, but I got it and it looks decent. I could grind it smooth, but who sees it? I may still end up doing it if my OCD gets the best of me.
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NXcoupe
03-08-2023, 09:01 PM
I noticed something that kind of torqued me a bit. I thought there seemed to be a bit of grease on the trans tunnel above the trans/driveshaft flange where they meet up. Closer inspection revealed EVERY bolt in the trunion, (that they put together, the ones I put in are all still tight), was about to fall out. Talk about by the hair of your chinny chin chin! I got all of them out, cleaned, and then loctighted back in. I just hope that there is no long term damage as a result.
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NXcoupe
03-08-2023, 09:03 PM
Here is where I am now. I am not mounting the anti roll bar above and in front of the rear end. After looking it over, there is just no room to put it there. I have an idea, but I'll post up pics after I get it going.
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PKFIRE
03-09-2023, 01:45 PM
Nice work! The plates you welded blend in well.
NXcoupe
03-09-2023, 05:54 PM
Nice work! The plates you welded blend in well.
Thanks Joe!
redfirepearlgt
03-09-2023, 07:23 PM
nice work Mike!
NXcoupe
03-10-2023, 09:52 AM
nice work Mike!
Thanks Chad! New bar showed up today, so more work in my future.
NXcoupe
03-19-2023, 04:32 AM
I spent about 3 weeks thinking about where I could fit this bar where it would function optimally but still not interfere with this bidonkadonk rear end. I committed to this spot and it seems to work well so far. I need to make supports to go from the frame rail over to the mounts, then weld the link brackets to the axle housing and shorten the links. I had to really crank the welder to get penetration, so they aren't as pretty as I'd like but I got great penetration so it'll hold. I used my plasma cutter to make the mounting plates and that worked really well. Pics when I get back home.
First I had to weld the arms onto the bar, they don't come welded in the custom kit.
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NXcoupe
04-16-2023, 06:55 PM
Made huge strides today on the dyno. Many thanks to Walter for being a great sounding board and having awesome, intelligent feedback. My issue is not 'fixed' but is identified. It is ready to race, just won't be it's total manly self yet, but in due time it will. At least I have a direction and some info. Been too long since I had my own car on the dyno. It's amazing. I'll have video sometime soon.
NXcoupe
04-24-2023, 07:38 PM
More pics of the rear.
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52771380570_c0420d2c2b_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2ope7V9)
I got it up onto the 4 post rack and was really excited to see that I had to hack the crap out of these links to get them to work. Since I only had a right hand tap, I had to cut all the length off of the right hand thread side, and only a touch off the left hand thread side. Finally got it to work, I think this will do. I can always get it a little shorter if need be. It will be very stiff laterally this way, which is a good thing.
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NXcoupe
04-24-2023, 07:41 PM
After dyno, I decided it was time to put the diaper on my grown ass car. I've had this thing for years, and never put it on, but I know safety rules are there to protect me and the other racers, so I pushed through it and got this on there. Wasn't all that bad. Used bolts on the back of the head, motor mount and oil pan to hold it in place. Turned out decent. Will be much easier to do with the engine out of the car, so when the sleeved block goes in, or this one gives up the ghost, it'll get on there perfectly.
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Maximus
04-25-2023, 10:00 AM
Nice!
I need to put mine back on.
NXcoupe
04-25-2023, 07:27 PM
Nice!
I need to put mine back on.
It really is a good idea. Hope yours is done soon. We'll have a running of the dozens down there at clay city.
NXcoupe
06-15-2023, 09:52 PM
So finally got everything done that I wanted to do to it. Got it off the rack and pulled it outside. I wanted to see if it would make more boost on the brake since I fixed the wastegate so I pushed the button and nothing. Car rolled forward. I let off and pushed it again while I looked at the controller and when I push the brake button, it shuts off the controller. Great. When I let off, it turns back on. Not sure what's up with it, so I sent email and called US shift. Haven't heard back yet but hope it's an easy fix.
NXcoupe
06-17-2023, 12:53 AM
Tonight Neil and I gave the circuits a once over and came to the conclusion the controller took a dump. It stays on with my laptop plugged in but the screen says E3. And the instructions have every other error but E3. Of course. So I am feelimg this is a controller that took a dump. Now I guess I start blowing up their phone on Monday. I guess I could footbrake it but it just sucks. Updates when I get them.
PKFIRE
06-18-2023, 01:31 PM
Tonight Neil and I gave the circuits a once over and came to the conclusion the controller took a dump. It stays on with my laptop plugged in but the screen says E3. And the instructions have every other error but E3. Of course. So I am feelimg this is a controller that took a dump. Now I guess I start blowing up their phone on Monday. I guess I could footbrake it but it just sucks. Updates when I get them.
That’s frustrating, hope you get it resolved quickly!
NXcoupe
06-19-2023, 11:55 AM
Thanks Joe!
NXcoupe
10-24-2023, 02:24 PM
So engine is out, pan off. Update coming.
Maximus
10-24-2023, 03:37 PM
So engine is out, pan off. Update coming.
Whatcha doing? :popcorn:
NXcoupe
12-04-2023, 01:36 PM
Ok, so I am long overdue for an update. Everyone knows that I went to BG and the engine started making a noise similar to bunch of marbles in the washer on spin cycle. But before I cover that, let's back up some. Last I updated this, I was having issues with the Quick 6, which turned out to be nothing with the controller and everything with Holley V300. It sucks. I had their launch control wired up as it has been for years, but in V300, it was sending a 12V signal up the transbrake wire and causing the controller to lose it's mind and cycle off and on. Once I removed that from my outputs, everything worked perfectly again.
Now, back to the marbles in the washer, or is a drier a better example? Anyway, I dropped the engine out and I pulled the pan off; and I'll edit this and attach pics once I am finished typing and upload them. I got the windage tray off, and saw the #8 rod bolts had backed out about 3 turns each. The noise I heard was the piston hitting the head and the rod slamming around on the crank. The bearing was stuck on the crank, well sort of, more stuck to each other than the crank. I completely expected the crank and rod to be garbage, but when I pulled the cap off and unstuck the bearings, the crank looked like new! The bearings had taken all the beating and let the crank come out unscathed. I took the rod with new rod bolts to my buddy and he reconditioned it while I waited. It wasn't that bad. Problem was, upon further inspection, the skirt was cracked and the piston skirts had collapsed. They just weren't designed for this much power. Turns out all 8 were rocking in the bores, with 8 being the worst. It had .009" piston to wall clearance and the top of the piston ringland above the top ring had been rubbing the bore! That's how loose these were in the bores. I ran a hone in that cylinder to see if I could get it to straighten out, but it took nearly .010" to get it round again and it was still tapered and tight at the bottom. So with my limited hone equipment, there was no way it was going to be saved, so it will be sold off. I had 2 other blocks, so after talking with Todd Warren, I decided to take one down to BES and have it sleeved. I dropped off one that had horrible bores in it, damaged from rust due to water in the cylinders. I took the other one to my friend Mike to have it honed to fit my other reciprocating assembly with DSS pistons and Manley rods. I am selling that spare engine to finance this endeavor. Both of these blocks are 12MM blocks, and I was surprised to find that my race engine was only an 11mm block and it had zero gasket issues, I attribute that to the tune.
Todd helped me out with a set of Molnex power adder plus rods with ARP 2000 bolts, so those are on the shelf. Pistons are coming from DSS, their drag radial/outlaw design, very thick long skirts, with reinforcements all the way around the piston and .250" wall pins. I am going with a 3.640 bore and coating the pistons to get my clearance dialed in. Heads will be coming from a 2015 F150, and I'll port those with Warren springs and cams so I'll be flowing a lot more air and have larger valves too boot.
Intake is still up in the air, but I'm leaning towards the Holley low ram for it. Not sure yet. Turbo and kit are remaining basically the same. I am making updates to the cage, basically the frame rails and bars running over to the rocker bar so the cage will cert to 7.50 because I'm going to need it.
Trans is still going to be a 6R80, but I am upgrading a few of the internal parts. I have a bolt together Circle D converter to go into it as well. I need to come up with an exhaust system for it, as I plan to do a bunch of drag and drives, although I've missed out on both sick events registration, I'm going to try and make it into the Midwest event and Hot Rod drag week. I also want to do all the NMRA events I can muster, as the suspension changes I did improved the car 100%, so drag radials hooked as good as slicks pretty much. Things will change tho when I am putting a lot of power down from the get go, where before my 60fts were only 1.7 to 1.8, they should drop deep into the 1.2 to 1.1s after all these changes. Remember, I was running a stock F150 converter and trans, no mods other than deleting the thermostat block.
So, car is apart until the block gets done, then I'll start putting it all together and update as I go along.
Maximus
12-04-2023, 03:18 PM
Good gawd! Thats a lot going on!!
Keep the updates coming!
NXcoupe
12-05-2023, 12:42 AM
Good gawd! Thats a lot going on!!
Keep the updates coming!
Thanks, sorry for the long post. Lol. Yeah, thought about slapping it back together but felt it was pointless to do so with a lame powerplant. Ordered the crank today.
Silver Bullet
12-05-2023, 12:47 PM
Never just slap it back together. I had to make same call at end of the year. Going to be an awesome build and 2024 will be better year for us all!
Maximus
12-05-2023, 03:05 PM
Never just slap it back together. I had to make same call at end of the year. Going to be an awesome build and 2024 will be better year for us all!
What did you do with your current long block?
NXcoupe
12-05-2023, 06:12 PM
What did you do with your current long block?
The pistons are junk but I still have the shortblock. I had 2 other blocks I'm using and my ported gen1 heads are going on that. I don't need it for anything.
Walter
12-07-2023, 07:10 PM
Good gawd! Thats a lot going on!!
Keep the updates coming!
LOL. Btw NXcoupe said he got you covered up next year....
NXcoupe
12-07-2023, 07:19 PM
LOL. Btw NXcoupe said he got you covered up next year....
Tattle tail!
NXcoupe
12-07-2023, 07:20 PM
Got the crank yesterday!
Walter
12-07-2023, 10:49 PM
Got the crank yesterday!
Boss?
Maximus
12-11-2023, 09:56 AM
LOL. Btw NXcoupe said he got you covered up next year....
LoL!! He will. Im sure Ill have a lot of New car bugs to work through again, but Id be happy just to be out. :D
MrRogers88GT
12-11-2023, 05:26 PM
LoL!! He will. Im sure Ill have a lot of New car bugs to work through again, but Id be happy just to be out. :DLike that attitude! Just ready to be at the track and have a good time.
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Walter
12-11-2023, 06:17 PM
LoL!! He will. Im sure Ill have a lot of New car bugs to work through again, but Id be happy just to be out. :D
Well shit that didn't work like I thought it would.... haha
NXcoupe
12-12-2023, 01:41 PM
Boss?
Yes. Got it at 10 over cost. So cheaper than through my account.
NXcoupe
04-01-2024, 12:55 PM
I had an extra really nice block and a complete reciprocating, balanced assembly out of my 12 GT, so took the pistons and block to my machinist and he honed the block to match the pistons. I assembled it all and put all the other parts, heads, cams, oil pan, and intake, etc onto it and sold it to a guy who wanted to do a coyote swap on his 02 GT.
NXcoupe
04-01-2024, 01:39 PM
Just got my block back from BES. They did an outstanding job on it. I am impressed with the quality of the finished product. I will edit this and post a pic asap. I also have my new custom DSS pistons and my molnar billet power adder us rods thanks to Todd Warren of Apocalypse Performance for helping me out on the rods and block work. I'm taking the assembly to be balanced here soon. Looking for gen 2 heads as well.
Maximus
07-05-2024, 08:08 PM
Updates?
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