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PKFIRE
11-03-2018, 09:32 AM
I've been wanting to upgrade my 03 Cobra to a TVS for awhile now and I finally pulled the trigger. Right now the Cobra is under going surgery to get upgraded from the Steg V+ to a VMP 2.3. I waited over a month for all the parts and now it's finally time to bolt them on.

Other things I upgraded this year was the Shifter to MGW and put in an adjustable clutch cable kit which I should of done with the Clutch swap 7 years ago.

I've been wanting to run 11s on my street tires. Hope this gets me there.

draggin50
11-03-2018, 03:54 PM
That will surely get you there! It will be a whole different animal now!

PKFIRE
11-03-2018, 09:05 PM
I sure hope so because 12.3@117
is the best I could do with 555Rs and the ported upper pulley Steg V+.

draggin50
11-03-2018, 09:15 PM
How was your 60ft on that pass? I think my silver cobra went a 11.72@117 on a stock blower with a 2.80 pulley on 555's. Your MPH was there for it.

PKFIRE
11-03-2018, 11:09 PM
How was your 60ft on that pass? I think my silver cobra went a 11.72@117 on a stock blower with a 2.80 pulley on 555's. Your MPH was there for it.


It was a 2.0... I would always launch easy on those. I had 28” slicks and went 1.69 60’ and went 11.518@120.89 with the Steg V

I turned a 11.9@118.3 on the stock blower with slicks with 2.8 and 12.5@115 with the 555rs.

redfirepearlgt
11-04-2018, 12:15 AM
You'll be there and faster Joe. I made 568 on the green 13 (full weight) and ran a best 11.49 on a 1.7x 60ft granny shifting and leaving at 4000 RPMs in good air. The VMP TVS flows so nicely and will make tons of power more than you already have. You may need to upgrade your half shafts if you haven't already. They'll be yelling at you to put a roll bar in it. What pulley did you go with? What pulley did you go with? I assume you went with a 2300 or did you go 2650TVS? Can't wait to see it running. Love that car.

PKFIRE
11-04-2018, 01:56 AM
I went with 2.3 with 2.8 upper, the 2650 is nice but for what I want it was more than I needed. I have had an extra set of half shafts laying around for years Incase the stock ones broke. I think if I ever sell them that will be the day the original ones break,haha. I’ve seen both 03/04 Cobras, 15+ gts and cts-vs break and most of the guys just stay in the throttle when tires are loading and loading that break the shafts. I’ve always taken it easy with street tires. The slicks I could go 100 percent and they would dampen some of the initial shock of a clutch drop. Maybe it’s a big reason I never ran better than 2.0 60’ on the 555rs because I would only ease onto the throttle with those.

draggin50
11-04-2018, 09:35 AM
A bias ply will same the half shafts. Mines always been SRA so Im not to worried about it. Its going to run good Im sure. Most of the TVS cars do.

PKFIRE
11-04-2018, 09:39 AM
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This is out now.

PKFIRE
11-04-2018, 09:45 AM
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Finished bolting the intercooler with vmp supplies bolts.

PKFIRE
11-04-2018, 09:53 AM
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I finally got my LFP throttlebody Friday. Due to plenum casting being oversized I have to grind down the side of the Plenum for the Tb stop screw and grind down the throttle arm to get it to fit without interference. Vmp representative said that unfortunately This happens sometimes because castings vary in size. I’ll finish that later today.

PKFIRE
11-04-2018, 10:01 AM
A bias ply will same the half shafts. Mines always been SRA so Im not to worried about it. Its going to run good Im sure. Most of the TVS cars do.

SRAs are so great for drag racing. Takes a lot of worry out of the equation. Your 2.9 Whipple moves out. I’m curious how the power band differs between TVS vs 2.9.

redfirepearlgt
11-04-2018, 09:19 PM
The guys at VMP are looking to release a super high flow IC recirc pump. Not quite sure when but likely after the new year. I can't wait to see the thing make a pass Joe. Who's going ot be your tuner?

PKFIRE
11-04-2018, 10:22 PM
Brandon at BA motor sports. He was the first guy to tune my car back in 05 and was the one to finally fix my stalling issues a few years back on the highway that was driving me crazy. When I had the car before it would just die with the shop fan. I could stall it out with a blow dryer it was so bad. Brandon saw the BA3000 meter was reading improperly. After working with him we were able to figure out what was causing it and resolve the issue I had for a few years.

redfirepearlgt
11-04-2018, 11:54 PM
^^^ A very good choice.

draggin50
11-05-2018, 05:54 AM
SRAs are so great for drag racing. Takes a lot of worry out of the equation. Your 2.9 Whipple moves out. I’m curious how the power band differs between TVS vs 2.9.

I would like to see that as well. I think Ricky (Evolved) has his dyno sheets. Be something to look at. His is still on 93 and runs real good. Stock motor with 2.3 TVS. Ill see if I can get him to chime in.

Gearhead
11-05-2018, 05:47 PM
Nice upgrade for sure !! I picked up a 2.3 TVS last November during a Black Friday sale....I just need some motivation to install on my 04. This thread definitely helps !!

PKFIRE
11-05-2018, 06:37 PM
Nice upgrade for sure !! I picked up a 2.3 TVS last November during a Black Friday sale....I just need some motivation to install on my 04. This thread definitely helps !!

I was trying to get the 25 percent off deal last November but I missed out,lol. I finally pulled the trigger in September. I’ll do some work this week on it. I have a larger heat exchanger going in. I’m not sure if you are keeping or deleting your egr but either way it hopefully is the hardest part. I heard lining the egr upto the blower isn’t the easiest. My ported swap wasn’t bad but after reading the struggle I just decided to delete the egr to save any clearance issues on the vmp.

draggin50
11-05-2018, 06:48 PM
Best way to go is to delete it!

PKFIRE
11-05-2018, 06:59 PM
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Going... Going.... Gone!!!

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draggin50
11-05-2018, 07:11 PM
Man I wish I had your motivation!!! You don't mess around!

Evolved
11-05-2018, 07:15 PM
I would have given you a deal on my TVS with the VMP TB. The swap is very easy, took me just over 2 hrs. My car was Tuned by Adam Maurer, best pass on pump was 10.48@ 134. Best pass to date is a 10.42 @ 134.

PKFIRE
11-05-2018, 08:10 PM
Man I wish I had your motivation!!! You don't mess around!

I have a desk job... I look forward all day to this! I may make imaginary ratchet noises at my desk when I think about my car. I’m not entirely sure,haha.

PKFIRE
11-05-2018, 08:12 PM
I would have given you a deal on my TVS with the VMP TB. The swap is very easy, took me just over 2 hrs. My car was Tuned by Adam Maurer, best pass on pump was 10.48@ 134. Best pass to date is a 10.42 @ 134.

I didn’t know you were considering to sell. Are you planning on upgrading? You actually helped convince me on getting one because you ran so well on pump gas.

Rick93coupe
11-05-2018, 09:35 PM
Good stuff, I've always wanted to put a roots blower on something, they sound awesome!

draggin50
11-06-2018, 08:49 PM
I have a desk job... I look forward all day to this! I may make imaginary ratchet noises at my desk when I think about my car. I’m not entirely sure,haha.

Haha!!! That's the little things that get us through the day!!

Evolved
11-07-2018, 08:07 AM
I may go turbo or centrifugal, not sure what I want to do yet, or if I even keep the car or not. My car did run some good times for pump, I need to work on the back suspension, I have the mph now I just need to get the et to match the mph.

PKFIRE
11-07-2018, 11:40 PM
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It’s bolted and ready to drop into the car.

draggin50
11-08-2018, 05:59 AM
You're making quick work of it!

redfirepearlgt
11-08-2018, 08:31 AM
You're making quick work of it!

These young motivated in-ju-nere guys........They just gitter done. :bigthumb

IWRBB
11-08-2018, 12:44 PM
How much boost/timing and what kind of fuel do you plan on running?

My Gen 1 Whipple best time is in my sig. That was on 15~16 psi, pump gas and drag radials, not power shifting either.

PKFIRE
11-08-2018, 03:15 PM
93 oct, not sure about timing and such. 2.8” upper which translates to 19 psi but that could be different since of my exhaust system. I only made 12.5 psi with ported blower with an 2.7 upper.

That’s a good time! What drag radials btw?

PKFIRE
11-08-2018, 03:20 PM
You're making quick work of it!


These young motivated in-ju-nere guys........They just gitter done. :bigthumb

I just worked on it an hour last night. Probably another hour tonight and probably finish the rest this weekend. I still have the heat exchanger to install. My biggest worry is getting the supercharger in the engine bay by myself.

Gearhead
11-08-2018, 04:02 PM
Nice upgrade for sure !! I picked up a 2.3 TVS last November during a Black Friday sale....I just need some motivation to install on my 04. This thread definitely helps !!


I was trying to get the 25 percent off deal last November but I missed out,lol. I finally pulled the trigger in September. I’ll do some work this week on it. I have a larger heat exchanger going in. I’m not sure if you are keeping or deleting your egr but either way it hopefully is the hardest part. I heard lining the egr upto the blower isn’t the easiest. My ported swap wasn’t bad but after reading the struggle I just decided to delete the egr to save any clearance issues on the vmp.

I was the lucky winner of that 25% off deal.....a bunch of guys were really really pissed off about it, since they only sold 1 at that price, even though they had some good deals going at the time. I will probably delete the EGR....but haven't decided yet.
Are you following any type of instructions, or just kinda winging it ? Finding the free time is the hardest part for me.

You are really moving along on it !!

redfirepearlgt
11-08-2018, 04:04 PM
I just worked on it an hour last night. Probably another hour tonight and probably finish the rest this weekend. I still have the heat exchanger to install. My biggest worry is getting the supercharger in the engine bay by myself.

Well give me a holler and we can make that happen. That piece weighs about 80 pounds or so. You could separate the intake from the head unit to split the weight up, but then that's twice the work. PM me and I'll send you my number.

PKFIRE
11-08-2018, 04:21 PM
I was the lucky winner of that 25% off deal.....a bunch of guys were really really pissed off about it, since they only sold 1 at that price, even though they had some good deals going at the time. I will probably delete the EGR....but haven't decided yet.
Are you following any type of instructions, or just kinda winging it ? Finding the free time is the hardest part for me.

I installed a ported blower into the car awhile ago so it’s not entirely a new job to me. I’ve been following torque specs and patterns with info I found online. I was nervous last night tightening the blower to intake bolts because last step you put a 90 deg turn after torquing the bolts to 18ft-lbs and your threading into aluminum. I’m trying to decide if I just rearrange the stock vacuum hosing or purchase new hose for the EGR delete. Glad you got the deal. It was a great price on the blower. It’s pretty straight forward to do. Just take your time and recheck what you have done. I put my bolts in magnetic bowls to make sure I don’t loose any.


Well give me a holler and we can make that happen. That piece weighs about 80 pounds or so. You could separate the intake from the head unit to split the weight up, but then that's twice the work. PM me and I'll send you my number.

Oh cool, I’ll let you know if I can’t find anyone or anyway to lift it. I will pm you just because I’ve lost your number.

redfirepearlgt
11-08-2018, 07:36 PM
I installed a ported blower into the car awhile ago so it’s not entirely a new job to me. I’ve been following torque specs and patterns with info I found online. I was nervous last night tightening the blower to intake bolts because last step you put a 90 deg turn after torquing the bolts to 18ft-lbs and your threading into aluminum. I’m trying to decide if I just rearrange the stock vacuum hosing or purchase new hose for the EGR delete. Glad you got the deal. It was a great price on the blower. It’s pretty straight forward to do. Just take your time and recheck what you have done. I put my bolts in magnetic bowls to make sure I don’t loose any.



Oh cool, I’ll let you know if I can’t find anyone or anyway to lift it. I will pm you just because I’ve lost your number.

I've lost your as well Joe. LOL! Or I would have called you! Signs we're all gettin old.

PKFIRE
11-08-2018, 09:13 PM
I've lost your as well Joe. LOL! Or I would have called you! Signs we're all gettin old.

I haven’t called you since I got my new job and that was almost 5 years ago. Really need to get a get together here. Looks like people are still racing and building on here. I remember when Stangbangerz would pack an event. Anyway hope to see you and your new ride soon.

draggin50
11-08-2018, 10:07 PM
Id love to do another QS&L or Middletown Frickers cruise. Food, cars, and friends!!! Cant go wrong!

PKFIRE
11-08-2018, 10:39 PM
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So my engine hoist wasn’t long enough. So I added a double box end to add enough length to drop the supercharger in. Thanks for offer to help Chad.

Brian let’s definitely get something together! It would be a great time!

PKFIRE
11-09-2018, 12:08 AM
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Done for the night. Torque the intake to the heads and put the fuel rail back on. Not too much more.

IWRBB
11-09-2018, 01:41 PM
93 oct, not sure about timing and such. 2.8” upper which translates to 19 psi but that could be different since of my exhaust system. I only made 12.5 psi with ported blower with an 2.7 upper.

That’s a good time! What drag radials btw?

They are MT ET Streets. 315s on 17x10.5 replica 03 Cobra wheels.

You are going to love that new blower :)

PKFIRE
11-10-2018, 01:36 PM
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Packaged and shipped! No turning back now. I’m really look forward to the extra power. Hope to actually take the car on a cruise. I’ve only driven the car to work this year.

Walter
11-10-2018, 02:40 PM
Put some miles on it. It's just a car!!!

draggin50
11-10-2018, 02:41 PM
You staying with 93 pump gas?

That's the only downfall to mine... I don't have E85 locally and I have to carry cans to get it all the time.

PKFIRE
11-10-2018, 05:03 PM
Put some miles on it. It's just a car!!!
I have no where to drive it,lol!

You staying with 93 pump gas?

That's the only downfall to mine... I don't have E85 locally and I have to carry cans to get it all the time.

I’m leaving it 93 for now. I may change my mind in the future but they sometimes get weird under 50 degrees until you warm them up.

draggin50
11-10-2018, 07:25 PM
Mine starts rough when its cold but clears up fairly quick. It just sucks that I don't have anywhere within 20 miles to get it. I may go back to 93 next year just so I can drive it more often.

PKFIRE
11-10-2018, 08:08 PM
Mine starts rough when its cold but clears up fairly quick. It just sucks that I don't have anywhere within 20 miles to get it. I may go back to 93 next year just so I can drive it more often.

I hope they build one near you. I was super excited to find out they remodeled a Speedway 2 miles from my house a few years ago and added E85.

draggin50
11-11-2018, 04:47 PM
I wish they would but its highly unlikely that they will anytime soon.

For now Ill continue to carry my 5 gallon cans and fill up as much as I can. I could probably pick up a 55 gallon drum and fill it once or twice a year and be fine. I maybe put 500 miles on it this year.

PKFIRE
11-13-2018, 01:21 AM
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I replaced a leaking facet at my house over the weekend and lost my goal to have this done to my inability to be flexible. Still suffering from sore back. I guess I’m getting older. I did some work on the car tonight. New spark plugs gapped to .030, installed a new belt and installed the plenum and Tb. By the way how did you guys do your egr delete? Did you reuse your stock vacuum hoses or replaced them?

IWRBB
11-13-2018, 11:04 AM
Kept mine- made my buddy thread it onto the new blower. Took him about ten minutes to get it, but since he's a machinist I knew he'd never cross thread it. I kept all my stock vac lines.

draggin50
11-13-2018, 06:14 PM
There are a few good write ups on it on SVT Performance. Mine is long gone. Looks so much cleaner I think.

PKFIRE
11-13-2018, 07:34 PM
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There’s not too much to it. I just would need to get a reducers and couple size hoses. I’m going to measure the diameter of everything. I don’t know if I want to take vacuum assembly apart yet. Did you guys have to zip tie or clamp any of your hoses?

IWRBB
11-14-2018, 11:24 AM
We pulled the whole vacuum tree/harness out when I installed mine, mainly just tot look at how it was all plumbed. It's pretty simple. I did zip tie any connections I could.

2-Tone
11-14-2018, 10:17 PM
I wish they would but its highly unlikely that they will anytime soon.

For now Ill continue to carry my 5 gallon cans and fill up as much as I can. I could probably pick up a 55 gallon drum and fill it once or twice a year and be fine. I maybe put 500 miles on it this year.

I have an empty ignite drum you are welcome to if you want it. I end up deheading them and throwing them away most times.

adragon72
11-15-2018, 03:54 PM
looks sweet!

draggin50
11-15-2018, 05:58 PM
I have an empty ignite drum you are welcome to if you want it. I end up deheading them and throwing them away most times.

I may take you up on that. Im sure it would be a lot easier on me.

PKFIRE
11-17-2018, 05:36 PM
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Pretty Big filter on the JLT Big Air

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Not the easiest to get on the tube buts it’s on.

draggin50
11-17-2018, 06:45 PM
Just wait till you get it tuned and feel the difference! Whole different car!

PKFIRE
11-17-2018, 06:54 PM
I’m almost done. I need to pick up a 9/32 to 7/32 vac reducer and that should be the last piece I need. Can’t wait till it’s done though I’ll need to find another thing to do. It’s fun working on this car. Nice to have ton of choices on parts that will bolt on.

PKFIRE
11-17-2018, 08:09 PM
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New Heat Exchanger

draggin50
11-17-2018, 08:26 PM
Yeah there is plenty to do to them. I offered mine up for sale to a guy. We'll see what happens there. Doubt he will buy it but you never know.

Id love to be back into a foxbody. They don't handle worth a crap, low on power when stock, brakes aren't much to talk about... But I miss having one. Love to find me a black LX hatch. ..

PKFIRE
11-17-2018, 08:36 PM
I never understood why Ford put drum brakes on those Fox bodies minus the 93 Cobra. It will be sad to see you get rid of it. I’ve considered selling my 03 before but never pursued it.

redfirepearlgt
11-17-2018, 11:27 PM
Any chance you could stack those units and run them in series behind the bumper or does that new exchanger take up all the room? Just thinking. Read a thread on another forum where a guy had used two smaller intercoolers on his S197 setup somehow and made some really low temps even in Texas summer time.

PKFIRE
11-18-2018, 01:24 AM
I think you could get the two heat exchangers behind the bumper. Just need to bracket it up. Ill check it out tomorrow. The outlet and inlets would probably be in the way if anything.

draggin50
11-18-2018, 11:18 AM
The new one will keep it plenty cool enough though. Usually mine runs ambient driving down the road. Stop and go traffic it will warm up quicker but still wont be too bad. On a hot day mine never goes over 105 or so.

PKFIRE
11-18-2018, 06:44 PM
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I got some fittings From Home Depot Performance. I decided just to run new 3/8, 9/32 and 7/32 hose. I couldn’t get myself to pull apart the stock vac hoses to make it work.

The Car is now all together with Pump wire upgrade, blower, Jlt Big Air and Larger Heat Exchanger. Need to schedule for a tune now!
https://youtu.be/XqhTozmDap0

draggin50
11-18-2018, 08:16 PM
I bet your anxious! Who you going to have tune it?

PKFIRE
11-18-2018, 08:41 PM
Brandon Aslept, he’s tune the car a couple times before.

redfirepearlgt
11-18-2018, 08:44 PM
Sounds good Joe. I bet I know who 's going to tune it. :D

- - - Updated - - -


Brandon Aslept, he’s tune the car a couple times before.

You beat me to it.

PKFIRE
11-18-2018, 10:36 PM
You got it Chad! I looked under the Cobra and you would either move the oil cooler or cut the inside of the bumper to make another heat exchanger fit. Unless you could find one that’s not as wide to put in front of the current one.

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redfirepearlgt
11-19-2018, 06:57 AM
^^^ Just spoke to a couple of guys at work and gave them the scenario Joe, and while this may help, the better alternative would be to increase your flow with a bigger pump in the system over trying the two in series or parallel. I just remember the basics of a thread on another forum that went on forever about the person I referred to who hooked several HE's in series to obtain optimal heat removal for his car down in Texas.

The recirc pump on the 03/04 SVT is the same pump used on the 07-09 GT500 (maybe up to 12) and many aftermarket PD setups. It's a Bosch pump and reliable obviously. The 13/14 GT500 received a larger flow pump and this pump is a nice unit that will out flow the stock one you have. Since then Whipple has produced a pump that will out flow the GT500 pump and I believe it is even a little more cost effective. There are some other options out there that have even higher flow rates if you wish to make some custom mounting brackets and figure out your own plumbing solution.

I get these hair brained ideas from when I worked on CNC Lasers. They had HE's on them to pull heat out of the gas medium both on the return side and then again on the supply side to pull heat from the compression process of the turbo blower or roots blower (depending on which brand) to remove induced heat from that process that creates the air flow in the system. Plus after working in HVAC controls for a while and learning the very basics of heat removal (though I have forgotten much of it by now) heat removal is something that intrigues me.

PKFIRE
11-19-2018, 09:54 PM
It’s a interesting subject that when I took Fluid Dynamics in School it made more sense. What would be interesting is to cool a separate tank with Thermoelectric cooler system and use that tank to cool the charge during a 1/4 mile pass with a valve. I don’t know the recovery time so you maybe just better utilizing another AC pump system to cool the liquid. I think I would hodge poge the Volvo with this but the Mustang I just want a basic clean look to the system. It’s just a quick weekend driver.

Walter
11-19-2018, 10:23 PM
Why not install diverter valves in the lines to and from heat exchanger. Run the heat exchanger on the street, then switch over to trunk mounted ice tank for track.

PKFIRE
11-19-2018, 10:44 PM
Why not install diverter valves in the lines to and from heat exchanger. Run the heat exchanger on the street, then switch over to trunk mounted ice tank for track.

That would work perfect, Keeping the charge cool is what your trying to achieve. They also have the killer chiller which I believe Dodge used on the Demon and Ford used on the F150 Lightning concept back in 03. You could probably braze on cooling channels under lower intake to cool more surface area. Your not suppose to cool the supercharger casings since the rotors can expand when heating and the casing can shrink.

Walter
11-19-2018, 11:01 PM
Ice tank seems to be a simple and cost effective solution. I like simple!

PKFIRE
11-19-2018, 11:29 PM
Ice tank seems to be a simple and cost effective solution. I like simple!

Simple works and can easily be fixed! I wonder if that’s why new gadget filled cars scare me.

redfirepearlgt
11-20-2018, 06:38 AM
I sure like the line lock gadget Ford put on my 17. That's right....line lock. No aftermarket kit, no hacking holes or running wires.

Walter
11-20-2018, 08:28 AM
I sure like the line lock gadget Ford put on my 17. That's right....line lock. No aftermarket kit, no hacking holes or running wires.

I think it a cool idea also, but I've only used mine once.

PKFIRE
11-20-2018, 11:33 AM
I sure like the line lock gadget Ford put on my 17. That's right....line lock. No aftermarket kit, no hacking holes or running wires.

That’s pretty fun sounding feature. Nice not to heat up the back brakes as you heat the tires off. Strength wise is the 10 Speed 10R80 as strong as the 6 speed autos in the 15-17 GT mustangs? I know people have had a lot of good luck with the 6 speed automatics with added power.

redfirepearlgt
11-20-2018, 04:00 PM
Allows up to 15 seconds and then auto disables. You can release it prior to. Has a count down timer that starts once it sees the tires start to rotate.

PKFIRE
01-08-2019, 11:57 PM
Here soon I will have the numbers on my car. Pretty excited to see what she’ll do.

draggin50
01-09-2019, 05:50 AM
Going to be a big difference I bet. Cant wait to hear how it does!

PKFIRE
01-09-2019, 02:35 PM
604.63 SAE whp on 93 oct. I can’t wait to drive it!

Walter
01-09-2019, 04:07 PM
Get on that 2019 list!

redfirepearlgt
01-09-2019, 06:34 PM
604.63 SAE whp on 93 oct. I can’t wait to drive it!

NICE!

draggin50
01-09-2019, 06:38 PM
Great numbers on 93!

PKFIRE
01-09-2019, 07:27 PM
I was really hoping for more than 600 whp. Glad Brandon got it there safely. Last time there the car made 497 whp on the Ported blower. Hoping for 11s in street trim on the 555rs. He said the car could make around 700whp on e85 with the vmp so that’s always there for the future but I definitely want to enjoy this first.

Walter
01-09-2019, 09:24 PM
Power seems right on the money for that setup on pump, no?

PKFIRE
01-09-2019, 09:29 PM
Pump gas 93, 11.8-12.0 af, 18 degree of timing and peak 19.8 psi with the 2.8 upper only. I had some belt slip up top. I may put my other belt on eventually since it was for a 2.7” pulley.

draggin50
01-09-2019, 09:49 PM
Going with a larger upper pulley for more contact and a 2 or 4 lb lower would help out Id think with the belt slip. That's still good though for 93.

IWRBB
01-10-2019, 04:28 PM
Sounds about right for almost 20 psi. My Gen 1 Whipple/Lysolm/FRPP blower put down 535 at 16 PSI. Four more pounds of boost and a more efficient blower should yield around another 70 RWHP, which is right where you landed.

PKFIRE
01-11-2019, 08:09 AM
I probably wouldn’t of gotten 600 on the ported stock TB. Maybe a cool down run would netted more Horsepower then I got. Brandon cooled down my Eaton and got 497 out of it after making 488 pass. What was you WOT timing ended being?

Evolved
01-14-2019, 12:55 PM
My car at 19 psi on 93 made 599 on Adams Mustang dyno.

Walter
01-14-2019, 07:37 PM
You guys got some big boost going on

PKFIRE
01-15-2019, 08:08 PM
You guys got some big boost going on
With Big boost come great responsibilities,right? I’ll be picking the car up here soon.

Walter
01-15-2019, 08:11 PM
Well said!!!!

redfirepearlgt
01-16-2019, 08:25 PM
With Big boost come great responsibilities,right? I’ll be picking the car up here soon.

My spidey senses are tingling. Sounds like someone is going for the list.

PKFIRE
01-16-2019, 09:33 PM
After driving it I hope the axles stay in one piece,lol. I will need more tire for this.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QFTaDQawNIQ

Walter
01-16-2019, 10:44 PM
Gonna need axles and slicks!

PKFIRE
01-16-2019, 11:02 PM
Gonna need axles and slicks!
Haha! Yeah! I got a back up pair of stock axles laying around. I bought them just Incase Ive ever needed them. I consider them my lucky charms because since new I’ve never needed to replace them “knock on wood”.

Walter
01-16-2019, 11:12 PM
Haha! Yeah! I got a back up pair of stock axles laying around. I bought them just Incase Ive ever needed them. I consider them my lucky charms because since new I’ve never needed to replace them “knock on wood”.

I take it u never had slicks on that car?

PKFIRE
01-16-2019, 11:56 PM
Actually I ran slicks for Years on the car at the track. I could do 4000-4500 clutch drops with them having 1.6x 60 ft runs. I sold them when I stopped drag racing the car. It’s actually safer on the axles. Wheel hop, loading and unloading causing the axles to bind breaks them. Slicks keeps the geometry right and softens the blow on them.

redfirepearlgt
01-17-2019, 12:11 AM
You're gonna need em.

draggin50
01-17-2019, 05:18 PM
Now just waiting on that warm weather to get it out Im sure! Have you had a chance to try it at all yet? Sure its a completely different car.

PKFIRE
01-17-2019, 08:38 PM
Now just waiting on that warm weather to get it out Im sure! Have you had a chance to try it at all yet? Sure its a completely different car.

I blipped 3rd at 60 and the tires spun. The boost is instantaneous. I’ll wait for a warmer day. What I’m really enjoying is the drivability. The car idles nice and drives well. So far my favorite part. This is probably my favorite setup on the car this far. I’m glad the LFP Tb idles down and doesn’t stick.

draggin50
01-17-2019, 09:53 PM
Nothing worse than a sticking throttle body... My Accufab on the silver Cobra stuck from day 1 and I hated it...

PKFIRE
01-17-2019, 11:14 PM
Nothing worse than a sticking throttle body... My Accufab on the silver Cobra stuck from day 1 and I hated it...

My dragon would idle around 1500-1600 rpm sticking. Sent it back to manufacture 5 times. Best it would do was 1200 rpm and sometimes stick. I traded it on a ported welded stocker. I ask for years what people had the least problems with on the Cobra. The LFP and Gt500 by VMP had best results. I was very hesitant to buy one though.

IWRBB
01-18-2019, 11:40 AM
I kept my stock TB when I put on the Whipple I know I'm giving up some HP, but it drives and idles exactly like it did the day I drove it off the lot brand new- just with another 200 HP under the hood.

PKFIRE
01-18-2019, 11:54 PM
You can’t go wrong with stock TB. I’ve had the best luck with them. Hope the LFP treats me well.

redfirepearlgt
01-19-2019, 12:01 PM
3.14xR^2 = area of a circle. valve stroke is not linear whether you are controlling flow of a liquid or gas state of matter. So as the opening metering maximum flow gets larger the more critical control of the flap position becomes. makes sense why the OEM TB would be the better option. I am battling that question as well before my next retune.

PKFIRE
01-19-2019, 01:56 PM
3.14xR^2 = area of a circle. valve stroke is not linear whether you are controlling flow of a liquid or gas state of matter. So as the opening metering maximum flow gets larger the more critical control of the flap position becomes. makes sense why the OEM TB would be the better option. I am battling that question as well before my next retune.

What size is the stock 2016 Mustang GT throttlebody?

Walter
01-19-2019, 03:41 PM
80mm on 2011up

PKFIRE
01-19-2019, 04:12 PM
Dual or single?

Walter
01-19-2019, 04:32 PM
Lol, single

PKFIRE
01-19-2019, 05:43 PM
They are rated at 1183CFM at 28” of. The 03 Cobra twin 57mm is rated at 1089 at 28”. You could probably get rough estimate on draw through supercharger system. Your probably better off seeing before and after on similar builds. Too many variables to see what kind of restriction you would have. I would think you would be fine around 600 whp on draw through system just based what I’ve seen on Cobras. Still that is just guessing. What have you guys seen on 5.0s with the stock Tb power wise on which supercharger?

PKFIRE
01-30-2019, 08:32 AM
It might be 0 degrees outside now but Sunday is going to be Sunny and 58. I’m going to finally get a chance to drive my Cobra.

Maximus
01-30-2019, 10:33 AM
It might be 0 degrees outside now but Sunday is going to be Sunny and 58. I’m going to finally get a chance to drive my Cobra.

Video of the Shenanigans!:D

PKFIRE
02-03-2019, 05:25 PM
Sorry no videos, the car would make the tires light up on demand in 1st and second. I could even ease into it and break lose at 60 in second. Third is a safer gear. I’m surprised they make cars from the factory with more power than this. I hope the owners who buy them know how to drive them,haha.

draggin50
02-03-2019, 06:46 PM
Good to hear you are out enjoying it!

I cant wait to get mine back out come spring. May have another one out too. Just a lot slower!

PKFIRE
02-03-2019, 07:59 PM
Good to hear you are out enjoying it!

I cant wait to get mine back out come spring. May have another one out too. Just a lot slower!

It was a lot of fun but I had to be more careful than before. Looking forward to warmer weather. Today was amazing after some crazy cold days.
More of a cruiser on 93? I wouldn’t mind a new eco-boost Mustang as a DD.

draggin50
02-03-2019, 09:36 PM
I rode in my buddy's and it was impressive for what it is. Just sounds funny!

PKFIRE
02-03-2019, 09:54 PM
It’s not good sounding 4 cylinder. It gets good gas mileage and would make the commute little bit more fun.

Walter
02-04-2019, 02:23 AM
It was a lot of fun but I had to be more careful than before. Looking forward to warmer weather. Today was amazing after some crazy cold days.
More of a cruiser on 93? I wouldn’t mind a new eco-boost Mustang as a DD.

S550 is an amazing daily. Love mine.

draggin50
02-04-2019, 07:14 PM
It was a lot of fun but I had to be more careful than before. Looking forward to warmer weather. Today was amazing after some crazy cold days.
More of a cruiser on 93? I wouldn’t mind a new eco-boost Mustang as a DD.

Its more of a nice cruiser. For now!!! Just a nice, clean, turbo foxbody coupe.

PKFIRE
02-04-2019, 09:03 PM
Its more of a nice cruiser. For now!!! Just a nice, clean, turbo foxbody coupe.

Sounds fun! What is your setup?

draggin50
02-05-2019, 09:29 AM
I have yet to actually pick it up but I am supposed to this weekend. Just a stock block 302 with an On3 kit and C4. Should be a fun car.

PKFIRE
05-31-2021, 07:55 AM
I just ordered a pair of 28x10.5/17” slicks for the Cobra. Maybe I can run a ten this year with the current setup. I’ve had 28x10.5/16 on it before years ago which helped me drop a second off my 1/4 then verse the nitto 555rs.

draggin50
05-31-2021, 03:48 PM
That should make a huge difference!

PKFIRE
09-06-2021, 08:01 PM
Once I get the Volvo drivable. I’m going try these out.

https://i.ibb.co/HxXQtgc/EB717-D6-B-4-F04-473-A-B436-60139089899-A.jpg (https://ibb.co/KLmH2yt)
https://i.ibb.co/QPw2ZfV/C2-E15194-2-EA8-442-E-99-AF-0-ABC97740-A2-D.jpg (https://ibb.co/3pZDw7b)
https://i.ibb.co/sy8ZrSR/99-DF0-A8-F-871-B-4-A10-8724-1-FFCF7-A37-CE6.jpg (https://ibb.co/Hn5jQv4)

draggin50
09-06-2021, 08:40 PM
Game changer there!!!

PKFIRE
11-22-2021, 09:17 AM
https://youtu.be/XH9XJvG1tEU

I smoked my clutch pretty badly on two runs. The RST clutch does not like any more than low rpm launches. Looking at the cost on a RXT conversion or another clutch that will take slick launches better. Car still stinks,lol.

draggin50
11-22-2021, 09:03 PM
That clutch smoke in the video? Car has a lot left once you get it to hook and go. What was the 60ft on that one?

PKFIRE
11-22-2021, 10:15 PM
That clutch smoke in the video? Car has a lot left once you get it to hook and go. What was the 60ft on that one?

That was a ton of clutch smoke in the video. I made two passes and it stunk so bad. Car still smells from it. It had a 1.66 60 ft. I contacted McLeod and they can convert it into a RXT. I should of probably stopped at one pass. It’s a great clutch and I thank Chad for it. It holds great if it’s engaged and not slipped. Doesn’t like heat much. What clutch did you run in your Cobra. My stock clutch grabbed slick launches better than the RST.

draggin50
11-23-2021, 06:11 AM
I had the RXT twin disc. I gave the old one to my buddy when I sold it to him. Ill see if he still has it. They will rebuild them for right around 500.

PKFIRE
11-23-2021, 09:05 AM
I had the RXT twin disc. I gave the old one to my buddy when I sold it to him. Ill see if he still has it. They will rebuild them for right around 500.

That’s what people are recommending.

draggin50
11-23-2021, 07:33 PM
Its hard to beat. The price sucks but its well worth it. I beat the crap out of mine and I know Mikey did as well.

PKFIRE
12-02-2021, 02:59 PM
The clutch finally seated after 10 years! The chatter is now gone. I guess beating the heck out of it is what it needed. Now it’s time to update it.

redfirepearlgt
12-02-2021, 05:54 PM
Nice pass given you were having clutch slip. Sorry the clutch didn't hold up for you....but you have to admit that the price was right. LOL! Glad you got some use out of it Joe. Hope to see the car make a 10.XX pass next year. You may wish to look at Mantic (sp?) twin disc if they make one for the Cobra. I had good luck with the single disc Mach series from Exedy. Single disc setup but held up well. They rate based on torque level and not HP. Take care.

draggin50
12-02-2021, 07:09 PM
Try again tomorrow at Edgewater! Its got it in it. Try a little adjustment and let it eat!

PKFIRE
12-02-2021, 11:13 PM
Nice pass given you were having clutch slip. Sorry the clutch didn't hold up for you....but you have to admit that the price was right. LOL! Glad you got some use out of it Joe. Hope to see the car make a 10.XX pass next year. You may wish to look at Mantic (sp?) twin disc if they make one for the Cobra. I had good luck with the single disc Mach series from Exedy. Single disc setup but held up well. They rate based on torque level and not HP. Take care.

It’s a great clutch! If I didn’t take it to the track I wouldn’t even consider changing it out. I may just do a RXT upgrade to it as that seems the way to go. The clutch has a great pedal feel and holds well as long you don’t try to do a high rpm drop on it. I’ll probably will wait till next year to try it again. Saving up for a high stall on the Volvo first. Still have to finish that car before I add to the Cobra which is running and driving really well.