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redfirepearlgt
10-30-2018, 07:50 PM
Second round out this past monsoon season I rolled my right ankle so bad I thought I broke it. So I took that as an omen that I needed to redirect my interest back into cars. I decided to put the factory converter back in the 14 so it would be enjoyable for me to drive again. I arrived at Finishline for the swap out and 30 minutes later I find myself without a Mustang. Brian Campbell bought the 14 from me Brandy and she has since named it Bella. I did a quick search and found a couple of S550's within 2 hours of here that were already tweaked a bit and another at PBD owned by one of the guys there. I first went to see the one at Beechmont and it was sold. Called PBD and of course Mike's car was also sold. That left this 17 in Indy at Ray Skillman. I went to see it and test drove it. A few weeks later after the sale was final with Brian I went and picked this 17 up. Its a GT premium with NAV and auto. A 2300 TVS w 80mm pulley, ID 1050x injectors, twin 67mm TB, and JLT 125mm CAI are the goodies under the hood. I am currently tuning it with Palm Beach Dyno. The tune on the car was not right. It is scheduled to go on the rollers for the WOT tuning session on Tuesday. So I will then have some idea what it will make. It's White Platinum Tricoat (UG). I kept my five spokes and swapped them over to it. Here's the pics. The exhaust is that obnoxious Roush with an X-pipe. So I am in search of an AWE catback system. The cats will remain on it Steve as well as the factory manifolds. IRS upgrades are already in the basement from BMR. Here are a few pics. Just call me Eurostang trash.

https://i.imgur.com/A85xuuc.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/bVwBIbr.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/88ItNNt.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/mpSigpp.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/dyWT3YI.jpg?1

Walter
10-30-2018, 07:53 PM
:bigthumb

Rick93coupe
10-30-2018, 11:28 PM
Awesome car Chad, congrats!

draggin50
10-31-2018, 05:08 AM
Very nice!!! Glad to see you back into a Mustang and off the grass!!!

Bet that thing will run good! Looks good too!

redfirepearlgt
10-31-2018, 10:16 AM
Thank you gents. Couldn't beat the deal. Would have cost me another 5-7K at minimum (just for parts) to buy a stock premium with fewer options to have the same mods. Just hope it is as fun as the 14 was.

k062693w
10-31-2018, 03:17 PM
Sweet !!!
Digging the color too !!!

redfirepearlgt
10-31-2018, 04:05 PM
Thanks.

draggin50
10-31-2018, 05:34 PM
Cant wait to see what kind of power it makes and some 1/4 mile times!

I almost want to go buy an 18 with the auto and beat on it!

Walter
10-31-2018, 05:42 PM
Do it!!!

draggin50
10-31-2018, 07:15 PM
Do it!!!

I wouldn't know what to do with 2, 9 second cars!!!

Walter
10-31-2018, 07:25 PM
I wouldn't know what to do with 2, 9 second cars!!!
LIKE!

redfirepearlgt
10-31-2018, 10:05 PM
Cant wait to see what kind of power it makes and some 1/4 mile times!

I almost want to go buy an 18 with the auto and beat on it!

That said I just hope it makes more than the 14. I'll make passes with it but I'm not going to be running the challenge list again. I've had my day in the sun. After all I was number 1 last year for almost a half hour.....until that orange beast foiled everything. That's almost two 15 minutes of fame. LOL!

kennebellcobra
11-01-2018, 11:06 AM
About time you came to your senses:bigthumb

redfirepearlgt
11-01-2018, 12:30 PM
Yeah well, I'm gonna do both but just not be as dedicated to either hobby. I find I also curse less while making a pass than while watching the misguided flight of my golf bal as it heads out of bounds and into the woods. But then that evens out when I am pulling plugs or a TB and the socket finds its way down into a tucked away place in the engine bay that takes longer to dig out than the actual job at hand.

PKFIRE
11-01-2018, 09:37 PM
Congrats on the new car Chad! It’s good to see you back in a Mustang!

redfirepearlgt
11-02-2018, 05:37 AM
Thanks Joe.

adragon72
11-02-2018, 06:15 PM
Looks Sweet chad! I like the new body style in white

redfirepearlgt
11-02-2018, 09:24 PM
Thanks Adam.

2Fast4You
11-03-2018, 08:24 AM
Sweet Milk of Magnesia, great car!

redfirepearlgt
11-03-2018, 05:49 PM
ROL! Yes THAT IS THE COLOR! Thanks.

mad max
11-05-2018, 09:06 PM
Nice car chad . Can’t wait to see it in person.

redfirepearlgt
11-05-2018, 11:29 PM
Thanks...

redfirepearlgt
11-06-2018, 04:13 PM
It won't go 9's like some, but it did make 627RHWP/502T @ 7800RPM on some questionable 93 gas. The 7500 RPM pull generated quite a bit of knock down low though the car came back on the top end of the curve and made 614/485 as I recall. The 7800 pull was a lot better with a minimal amount of knock in the same general point on the curve but again was peaked at 18.5 degree (tuners ceiling advance on the tune) with 0.0 knock on the WOT pull resulting in the final numbers. Trims were solid, AFR was solid, everything else looked good on both pulls so that likely points to winter grade fuel or that the same fuel I was running in the 14 at a little less boost and less stock compression isn't as compliant in this setup. So will source 93 elsewhere for the future.

Not a shocker value on the numbers but about what I expected. No idea what the car was making on the original tune. Don't care. It was all about drive ability. Still some tweaking on the shift, has a little flare but drives smooth as silk otherwise.

Walter
11-06-2018, 05:53 PM
Should run good!

draggin50
11-06-2018, 08:48 PM
That's still impressive numbers and I think you will be surprised at how it runs. Only one way to find out!!!

PKFIRE
11-07-2018, 02:26 AM
Nice Chad! Where did you have it tuned? 7800 is a screaming amount rpms.

firestang70
11-07-2018, 09:32 PM
Wait you bought a s550 ��. Jk congrats on the new ride.

redfirepearlgt
11-07-2018, 10:08 PM
Nice Chad! Where did you have it tuned? 7800 is a screaming amount rpms.

Hey Joe, I worked with Palm Beach Dyno and remote tuned. Did the initial idle, sweep, and drive datalogs for fuel and air, and then took it over to Finishline and had Brian assist me on the rollers for the 6K, 75.K, and 7.8K WOT datalogs. Just need to do a little driving in it now to address some flare in the shifts. Otherwise it's pretty much done. Ken B and Rob S down there really have done a nice job with respect to my initial impression. I haven't had a chance to really lay into it WOT to see where it shifts at but as I understand it they tune WOT shifts on the S550 at 7700.

redfirepearlgt
11-07-2018, 10:14 PM
Wait you bought a s550 ��. Jk congrats on the new ride.

Your right. Egg on my face. I deserve that. Guess its my midlife crisis stirring? :rolleyes: At least it's a coupe. LOL! It took a while for this body to grow on me. I still refer to it as a Eurostang. The back end has always been appealing on them for me. The forged rotating assembly factory? The bigger selling point. The fact it was already SC'd and only needed retuned OH, and definitely needs some different pipes on it (ROUSH YUCK!) AND the wheels from the 14 are a direct swap helped even more.

Walter
11-07-2018, 10:45 PM
They are great cars.

redfirepearlgt
11-11-2018, 02:23 PM
They are great cars.

What does PBD have your car idling at in DRIVE? ANy issues with the 2-3 shift dragging out under light - med throttle up?

firestang70
11-11-2018, 03:18 PM
Roush exhaust on a Coyote isn’t a good match in my book. I would see if Brian has a stock 18 exhaust. It is louder and more aggressive than 15-17 but still very civil and no drone.

redfirepearlgt
11-11-2018, 06:25 PM
Roush exhaust on a Coyote isn’t a good match in my book. I would see if Brian has a stock 18 exhaust. It is louder and more aggressive than 15-17 but still very civil and no drone.

I fully agree Dale. I hate Roush exhaust. However the 18 exhaust is a quad tip setup and the 15-17 is dual tip. I am going to put an AWE exhaust on it. H-pipes are the cats meow on Coyote's with the change in firing order (same as on the old Ford flat head V 8's) and the AWE has a lower tone to it as well as sound cancelling tech on the drone in the 2000 RPM range under cruising load. While the Roush does not drone it is obnoxious. I ran it on the 14 only because it did not drone until I took the cats (only the second car I ever did that with and will never do again) off and then I went with GT500 factory mufflers with the H pipe.

draggin50
11-11-2018, 06:31 PM
I like obnoxious!!!!

And so don't my neighbors!!!

Walter
11-11-2018, 06:43 PM
What does PBD have your car idling at in DRIVE? ANy issues with the 2-3 shift dragging out under light - med throttle up?

Idles at 700 in drive. No issue with shifting at all

redfirepearlgt
11-11-2018, 06:49 PM
Idles at 700 in drive. No issue with shifting at all

Thanks. Sent a ton of data logs to Rob yesterday. May end up taking it over to Brandon since he has worked closely with them on your car and others and pay him to finish working with Rob/ken on the drive ability issues on the car. Will see what kind of response I get this week. Either way the car drive much better cruising than it did. Thanks for getting back. Brandon was booked out so I chose to do it myself and just pay Brian to make the WOT pulls while I logged.

Walter
11-11-2018, 07:21 PM
Drivability with stock converter should be a non issue. They can get it fixed up quickly. Shoot me a text with any questions you may have.

redfirepearlgt
11-11-2018, 09:47 PM
Will do. Thanks.

redfirepearlgt
11-22-2018, 02:04 AM
Got an appointment working to get the car over to Brandon to do the polish work on the tune with PBD. Just some minor tweaking of the shifting, getting the DFCO activated (Mike said some prefer it on to create that old carb decel sound while others prefer it off for a more smooth decel tone and to save fuel), and resolve the high idle. Nothing that can't be worked out between Brandon and the guys down there. I just don't speak the lingo well enough via email to express what needs addressing in spite of trying and sending datalogs.

Regardless the car does drive so much better than it did when I first purchased it. So it's getting better. Loading a tune on these S550's can really be a pain. Takes a good 7 minutes if nothing hangs up. I chose to put a charger on the car while loading and disabled the IC pump as well. Half the time when a load does take you still have to reteach crank relearn to clear P0315 CEL that pops up. If the tune fails to take you may be forced to flash the car back to stock and then try yet again. Miss the old 14 in that regard. Once it's set, I ain't messing with it again.

Walter
11-22-2018, 10:16 AM
U got some bizarre issues with your stuff Chad.

redfirepearlgt
11-24-2018, 06:50 PM
I guess you were just born to lucky blood.

Walter
11-24-2018, 10:29 PM
I guess you were just born to lucky blood.

You will be all fixed up in no time!

redfirepearlgt
11-25-2018, 12:38 PM
I have no doubt in Brandon and Ken. Both have helped me and done VERY well in the past. In fact this will be the fourth vehicle Ken has tuned for me. The first he tuned was a 2003 Ranger 4.0/auto when he was in Evendale (just wanted the speed limiter removed and he gave it a little attitude to boot for a 6 banger). This is my third Coyote (2nd 6R80) and fourth drive by wire FI vehicle. I know how they drive and what to expect. Same 2300 TVS on the last three Coyotes. Only diff on this car is the larger FI's TB, and 1-2 more pounds of boost. Same 6R80 as the 14.

The Ngauge is likely a better choice for the S550 platform. Not as many questions on loading tunes or gliches I have found compared to using the X4. ANd they load way faster I understand. But the car came with X4 so I will stick with X4. More datalogging flexability with X4 when beign used with a laptop and the livelink software that is free with the device.

Walter
11-25-2018, 12:58 PM
The x4 is poop IMO. The nguage loads quicker for sure, tho I'm not familiar with laptop data logging gs X4. I had some issues logging with x4 at first, I think I got it going now. The last few times I logged it worked perfectly. I need to puty fuel system on and get my e85 tune going.

redfirepearlgt
11-25-2018, 07:44 PM
^^^ Have you got your car roll barred yet? I agree that X4 sucks on this format. Was the bee's knees on the 13 and 14. But with PBD locking down the tune there will be no need for me to invest in an Ngauge. Datalogging for curiosity to see how the car is performance tune wise and the possible need for trouble shooting is still very straight forward with X4.

Walter
11-25-2018, 07:57 PM
No cage. Street car. I'll stay with x4 as long as it works, as soon as it doesn't I'll go nguage.

redfirepearlgt
11-25-2018, 11:39 PM
^^^:bigthumb