New Toy. 17 Ecoboost Premium

[RACEME]

Found a great deal on a 2017 Ecoboost Premium over the weekend. I have not had a mustang that was derivable for a few years so this is going to be fun. I have the stage 1 package for the Cobb tuner/air filter coming Friday. This video was the deciding factor in choosing Cobb over the other tuners. It shows the trans brake, 2 step, and line lock control. They seem to have the biggest following in the EB community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRX7lySqnoQ

I was hoping to hit Edgewater friday for a baseline, but not sure mother nature is going to cooperate.



https://goo.gl/photos/4cZmSN6aBumqK94j9

[redfirepearlgt]

Calling for PM showers Friday at this point. Enjoy the car.

[PKFIRE]

Keep us posted. I was pretty impressed when I drove one. They look super easy to work on also.

[Ackbar00]

I wonder if it will be faster than my ST....

[redfirepearlgt]

Yellow........nice. That car would real nice on a set of forged Vossen VSF-2 20's. I have a set for a very nice price. Would look killer on that body style.

[RACEME]

Yellow........nice. That car would real nice on a set of forged Vossen VSF-2 20's. I have a set for a very nice price. Would look killer on that body style.

I need to get some drag race type wheels.

[redfirepearlgt]

I need to get some drag race type wheels.

Pretty certain you are locked into a 17 on the back unless you do a brake swap out to a 13/14 rear that is smaller.........if that can be done. Tommy 2Tone can give the first hand skinny on this if he pops on.

[draggin50]

Congrats on the new car! I like the yellow. Bet its a fun ride!

[Rick93coupe]

Looks good man, congratulations on the new ride!

[mustangboy]

Congrats Tim, nice to see you on Sunday

[RACEME]

The tuner is supposed to be here tomorrow. Ill get a good bottle of Bourbon and have to toast to the death of my warranty.

It also looks like the factory intercooler is a huge bottle neck and power robber due to heat soak and very high intake air temps. That will need to be the next upgrade.

[firestang70]

Congrats those ecoboosts are nasty with a couple of mods.

[RACEME]

thanks for the comments everyone. It feels good to have my butt back in a mustang seat again.

I did a rough measurement on the rear brakes last night. Looks like about 7.75" from center to outside of the caliper. Definitely going to have to go with 17" or bigger for drag wheels. I have a set of 95 tri-bars laying around. I might put some drag radials on them while I wait for a deal to show up on something nicer.

[NXcoupe]

Tim! Suhweet! I drove one in florida and really liked it.

[NXcoupe]

Have to get it up on my dyno.

[2Fast4You]

Have to get it up on my dyno.

Get back to work! Lol

[PKFIRE]

I remember buying my 03 Gt 14 years ago and it's amazing that an eco-boost and V6 Mustang could out run it now. So many don't realize that 300 hp use to be such a huge number of horsepower not so long ago. I'll probably be heading down to the track soon with my old 2.3 Turbo Volvo. Wouldn't mind seeing this car make a pass.

[redfirepearlgt]

Man now you have me thinking about tweaking on the wife's recently purchased 14 Fusion SE ecoboost 2.0.

[PKFIRE]

Man now you have me thinking about tweaking on the wife's recently purchased 14 Fusion SE ecoboost 2.0.

I almost bought one of those. The reason I didn't I was already looking up go fast parts before I bought the car. I wanted to get a car to drive to work that I didn't want get carried away modding. Those cars are super nice btw.

[redfirepearlgt]

I almost bought one of those. The reason I didn't I was already looking up go fast parts before I bought the car. I wanted to get a car to drive to work that I didn't want get carried away modding. Those cars are super nice btw.

She loves it. She wanted a Buick Regal until she test drove this. It was over but the signing then.

[PKFIRE]

The regal is nice car also. I just like extra room you get in a fusion vs a Regal. I wouldn't mind a new Fusion Sport. 2.7 Turbo and tune wouldn't make it pretty quick sleeper.

[redfirepearlgt]

The regal is nice car also. I just like extra room you get in a fusion vs a Regal. I wouldn't mind a new Fusion Sport. 2.7 Turbo and tune wouldn't make it pretty quick sleeper.

The seats in the Regal were like sitting on leather covered plywood. Ride and road noise were about the same in both, but the Fusion felt like a midsize car with some plushness and comfort while the Regal simply looked the part. The Fusion we found had everything a Titanium has except the upgraded leather vice standard leather, remote start, and a rear spoiler. plus it had remote entry pad/GPS/climate control/heated seats/paddle shift for the eurotrash novice, etc. The only thing it lacked that the Regal has was a passenger side seat that would raise and lower.

[PKFIRE]

Surprising the Regal was noisy. Buicks are typically super quiet.

[redfirepearlgt]

Surprising the Regal was noisy. Buicks are typically super quiet.

Yip. The 2003 Regal we had was super comfortable and very quiet. Too bad it got T-boned by some ding bat who ran a red light.

[PKFIRE]

My sister had a 03 Buick Lesabre that died the same death. It was super comfortable.

[draggin50]

I have a 2001 LeSabre and it rides like a Caddy! Still to this day one of the smoothest cars I've drove.

[Ackbar00]

Have to get it up on my dyno.

I wonder if it would do better than my ST.... ;)

[adragon72]

Congrats on the new ride!

[RACEME]

Have to get it up on my dyno.

Yes lets do that. I need to get an intercooler very soon. The heat soak on the factory one is terrible.

I find it very strange to be talking about a 4cyl motor and large torque numbers at the same time. This thing has great mid range and it is just strange.

[PKFIRE]

4 cylinder cars can surprise. I pulled 442 ft-lbs of torque on my srt4 on Cincy Speeds dyno. Maybe it could of made more but the stock clutch was slipping.

[Ackbar00]

Mine made more torque at the tire than a Coyote motor that was there the same day. I was amused. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Tjs-1hT9U

[PKFIRE]

Those ST can make some good power. There was a guy with 2015 making 410 whp but it was on aftermarket turbo setup on another dyno day. All I got out my Stock Turbo on my Srt-4 was 285whp 373ft-lbs of torque. I went to stage 3 turbo which got me the bigger torque number.

[NXcoupe]

Yes lets do that. I need to get an intercooler very soon. The heat soak on the factory one is terrible.

I find it very strange to be talking about a 4cyl motor and large torque numbers at the same time. This thing has great mid range and it is just strange.

Just let me know.

[04 Venom]

I am interested in your results. I have been thinking of an ecoboost with a full Steeda suspension.

[RACEME]

FINALLY getting around to messing with this car. I got pretty distracted with flipping Copart cars. Went to the track a couple weeks ago. Not a great outing. Made 4 passes all with mistakes by me. This thing has too many buttons and switches to play with. First pass did not realize that with track mode (shifter in sport) it requires you to shift with the paddles. Hit the rev limiter in 1st and aborted. Second pass forgot to turn off traction control. (went 13.6). Third pass was way too much boost using the transbrake to launch on street tires. Just blew the tires off. Fourth pass I gripped the wheel tighter on launch and bumped the paddle shifter right into second gear. (Went 13.22@105) Then it rained and I loaded it up.

This was all done with the Cobb accessport on stage 1 tune. Only other mods are a Levels intercooler, drop in filter. Running 93 gas.

Now..... I have signed up with Tune+ for lifetime tuning as well as the transmission tuning. I have bought a cat-less downpipe, custom wastegate actuator, and ET street R tires. I also got one of the ethanol test kits so once we get the 93 octane tune finalized we can go E30 and let it rip.

[Maximus]

You will get there, just keep at it! :cool1:

[RACEME]

Downpipe and wastegate actuator is on. Loaded the initial tune from Adam at Tune+. This thing is waaay faster now. Need to get the catch can on tonight and start datalogging so we can get the 93 tune finalized. Then on to the E30 tuning. Adam advised me not to race it until the tune is finished. The transmission tune is also really good. Totally different car with just a few parts.

[RACEME]

Just received the final 93 tune. Hopefully we can get the E30 tune completed quickly. Either way I'm planning to head back to Edgewater next Friday the 19th.

[Ackbar00]

(Went 13.22@105)


Guess I need to stop trolling Ecoboost Mustangs on the highway in the Focus ST, lol

[firestang70]

Tim with your mods what kind of mpgs are you pulling on the highway?

[RACEME]

Wow...not a good question to ask right now. Im still on E30 in the logging/tuning stage. This thing makes 25psi almost instantly. Can't keep my foot out of the boost. Adam Brunson does have me set up with three map slots of tunes. I can use my cruise control buttons to switch between them. I put it in the lowest power setting when I was on the 93 octane tune and saw 35mpg on the highway. That was a very unsatisfying two minutes.

[draggin50]

Miles per gallon??? Whats that?!?

[redfirepearlgt]

^^^ That's something you can't attain running E-85. :tongue2: LOL!

[draggin50]

No doubt!!!

I maybe get somewhere around 10 MPG in the Cobra. It may go back on 93 soon. Be so much more fun just hoping in and driving it not having to deal with chasing E around.

[redfirepearlgt]

^^^ That's why I have not gone that route. It's like having a pissed off pitbull on a short leash. Great stuff but no driving range.

[IWRBB]

No doubt!!!

I maybe get somewhere around 10 MPG in the Cobra. It may go back on 93 soon. Be so much more fun just hoping in and driving it not having to deal with chasing E around.

With the low mileage mine racks up lately, I'm thinking about switching to E85 just so I can burn through a full tank of gas in less than a year! I hate fucking with fuel pumps and tanks though. Been putting 5 gallons in at a time lately just to try to keep fresh gas in it.

[draggin50]

Im right there with you lately. Ive been through about 8 gallons so far this year. Sad...

[RACEME]

Getting faster ... 12.46 at 109 on Friday the 19th. There a group of 5 Coyote/S197 cars there all in the 12.80-13.20 range on street tires. They were pretty interested to see why that quiet car was quick.

[RACEME]

I sent the logs of my runs to my tuner. He sent back a new tune. Apparently something during the burnout was pissing off the knock sensor. He told me it was pulling 4 degrees of timing during the run. He changed something and said it should be better now. He also told me I better get a one piece driveshaft before I rip the two piece one out of the body.

[draggin50]

4 degrees of timing will pick up a good bit more Id say. Maybe gain another tenth or so. That's moving pretty good!

[NXcoupe]

Tim, good to see you on here. I'm in the gthig 14 GT with dark stars on it, GRENCH for the plate, come say hi, I'd like to check your car out. I'll be down at edgewater next friday prob, as long as tge weather cooperates.

[RACEME]

Tim, good to see you on here. I'm in the gthig 14 GT with dark stars on it, GRENCH for the plate, come say hi, I'd like to check your car out. I'll be down at edgewater next friday prob, as long as tge weather cooperates.

I am going to wait a couple more weeks to try again. Need that perfect turbo weather to make a run at the 11's

[NXcoupe]

I am going to wait a couple more weeks to try again. Need that perfect turbo weather to make a run at the 11's

Cool. I will more than likely be there. I hot slicks mounted and balanced and I'm going to put the front sway bar delete on it too. Yours is really moving out for an ecoboost.

[RACEME]

She went 11's finally. 11.95 at 115. I really need to find some HOOK! I run the 275 Mickey ET street R drag radials and can not launch at anything over 2k on the 2 step without spinning. I feel like there is a ton more ET in this thing if I could leave 3500 off the transbrake & 2 step. I am pretty happy anyway since it just has a few bolt-ons and a hot tune. The motor and turbo are still factory stock.

[redfirepearlgt]

Nice job.

[NXcoupe]

Good work. You just raised the bar for me.

[draggin50]

Car is running good! You going to try a slick and see if that helps?

[RACEME]

Car is running good! You going to try a slick and see if that helps?

Yes, I think so. I started a couple conversations on the "lets break some ecoboost" facebook groups. The recommended the Hoosier 28x10-17 ones. My current tires are a bit shorter than that so I am wondering how that will affect it.

My plan is to get the steeda stop the hop kit (or something similiar) . Looks like bmr makes the best drag springs for S550's. I don't have a good plan on what shocks to run yet. Seems like Viking is popular but they are $$$$.

Ill be watching to get as much as I can used. I'm currently right at $2000 in mods/tuning to get it into the 11's. All this new technology stuff just blows me away.

[Walter]

You running the 275/40/17 et street r? If so, that's a short tire with little sidewall. I think the 305/45/17 et street r will make a big difference. I happen to have a real nice set for sale. Pm me if interested.

[RACEME]

You running the 275/40/17 et street r? If so, that's a short tire with little sidewall. I think the 305/45/17 et street r will make a big difference. I happen to have a real nice set for sale. Pm me if interested.

yep, that is the tire I have. Im running stock 95 GT wheels. I do not think they are wide enough for that tire. I am going to need new wheels probably either way.

[Ackbar00]

Good work. You just raised the bar for me.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/d/union-2013-ford-f-turbo-engine/6983479089.html

[RACEME]

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/d/union-2013-ford-f-turbo-engine/6983479089.html

That would be insane in a fox.

[Ackbar00]

Not a fox, but its pretty crazy:

https://youtu.be/1tDVpulzlb8?t=210

[RACEME]

Not a fox, but its pretty crazy:

https://youtu.be/1tDVpulzlb8?t=210

I agree. These modern engines blow me way. Five years ago I thought the 2.3 in the heavy ass S550 chassis was a joke. Now I feel like im eating crow every time I head to the track. That BMW engine in the supra is just another step up in that technology.

[PKFIRE]

Are you on stock Turbo in the Eco-boost? The head must flow very well.

[RACEME]

Are you on stock Turbo in the Eco-boost? The head must flow very well.

Yes. Stock engine and stock turbo. Here is my list
Tune+ Engine tuning
Tune+ Trans tuning
3" Ebay catless downpipe
Tune+ wastegate actuator
Drop in air filter
M/T ET Street R radials 275/40/17
UPR dual valve catch can
Levels street intercooler

I run it on E30 fuel with no passenger/rear seats and no exhaust past the downpipe

[RACEME]

Finally getting this thing back together soon. Last spring I ended up cracking the block and found a couple bent rods during teardown.

I recently picked up a 2.0 block for the Focus ST as it is way stronger. I am using the 2.3 crank with Malhe pistons and Wiesco boostline rods. I also just purchased the Comp 58/58 bigger turbo for it. The motor still needs to be assembled and I need to figure out what fuel pump and injectors I am going to run. These darn DI fuel pumps that run off the cam are stupid expensive.

Anyway it should be in the 600-650 RWHP range on E85 once I get it all lined out.

[draggin50]

That's impressive out of the little 4 banger. Cant wait to see how it does!

[RACEME]

Car is running and in the tuning process. We are pretty close to finished on the 93 octane tune but it started blowing the intercooler pipes off at around 30psi. I just installed some new aftermarket intercooler pipes. Hoping to switch over to full e85 and get tuning that in the next week or two.

[Walter]

Who is the tuner?

[5.0calypso93lx]

Whoa. Had no idea these things ran that well. I remember seeing Mitsu Evo guys roll the ends of their IC piping and use hair spray at each connection. Seemed to help when they were running man boost.

[draggin50]

Sounds like it will be pretty nasty when your tune is finished.

[firestang70]

Looking forward to seeing how she does.

[RACEME]

Still working on this thing. The little motor is unable to spool the 62mm turbo enough to get it on the two step. Working with my tuner, we just ordered the NX nitrous kit specifically for the car and a controller. Looks like we will be staging with the spray to get it to build boost for launching. Hoping to be able to hit the track in another month or so.

[redfirepearlgt]

holy crap. 650 rwhp on a 2.3l? man that is impressive...especially if that is on 93 pump gas.

[Walter]

holy crap. 650 rwhp on a 2.3l? man that is impressive...especially if that is on 93 pump gas.

E85

[redfirepearlgt]

Either way........DAAAAGGGGGG! I was at a custom engine shop in New Albany, Indiana about 12 years ago named ERL. They do marine and automotive both. At that time they were making a 4 cylinder that made over 600 FWHP N/A they stated. Don't recall if it was on race fuel or E85. Said at that time the most of those went into Sions being raced. They also did something for Honda as I recall. They made their own cams, cranks, and did tons of custom work. It was a neat place. Their main staple was marine. Hard to believe the HP that can be made with 4 holes in the block these days.

[NXcoupe]

Can't wait to see what it'll do.