97 Cobra project....

[egbertnr]

Picked up a 97 cobra this weekend. Needs some cleaning and exterior needs some help. I'm no detailer but I'd guess someone that knows how to bring 20 year old paint back to life could do great things for this car. Engine also has a tick on the passenger side rear head...I think. Bought it knowing that thinking I could maybe fix it or drop my coyote in the car. All depends on how bad it is. My 8th mustang. Most likely will get the IRS from under my fox installed as well.

If anyone has a good black 96-98 tail light sitting around...passenger side I could use it otherwise I'll have to pick up a set.

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[WCKDGT]

you buy me some compound, I would be tempted to come down there and buff it for you lol

[redfirepearlgt]

Man that car looks nice for being 18 years old.

[egbertnr]

you buy me some compound, I would be tempted to come down there and buff it for you lol
You tell me what you needs...I'll help however I can. But I've never done it. I'd love to see it cleaned up until I can have it repainted. Figured sometime down the road a fresh layer of black can't cost me too much.

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[egbertnr]

Man that car looks nice for being 18 years old.
It looks good from a distance. It has its fair share of light scratches and blemishes. Very few dents which was what I liked along with lack of rust of course. Wheels are crap with peeling chrome although the rear tires are almost new and the fronts are decent but wrong size for rim.

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[draggin50]

Good looking car!

Chris91 could hook you up with a good detailing Id think.

[WCKDGT]

You tell me what you needs...I'll help however I can. But I've never done it. I'd love to see it cleaned up until I can have it repainted. Figured sometime down the road a fresh layer of black can't cost me too much.

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Meguiars m105 and a new wool pad and whatever wax you wanna use. I have m205 which is a Polish and it doesn't cut very good. You wanna do it before Columbus?

[chris91]

I've been known to make a few black cars look nice and fresh. I'd bet Tommy would know somethin about that. :)

[egbertnr]

Meguiars m105 and a new wool pad and whatever wax you wanna use. I have m205 which is a Polish and it doesn't cut very good. You wanna do it before Columbus?
I'm in no big rush. I have plenty of other things to on the car. One major item is getting the tick noise found and fixed. Other than that I am curious if there is any hope for the paint....from what others have said there is.

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[Blkcobra01]

Looks clean for the age congrats. Are you sure it's a head tick and not the doughnut gasket from the exhaust manifold to the h/X pipe? Or should I say an exhaust leak.


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[egbertnr]

Looks clean for the age congrats. Are you sure it's a head tick and not the doughnut gasket from the exhaust manifold to the h/X pipe? Or should I say an exhaust leak.
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It actually doesn't have x or h pipe which I will need to fix soon. Really throwing off the exhaust note.
If I could insert the video I took yesterday I'd post it but I'm having upload issues. I'm certain it's in the engine and sounds similar to other videos I've heard on the youtubes stating the problem are lash adjusters.


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[SN95N/A]

Chain guides possibly

[Stangman]

We listened to it with a mechanic's stethoscope when we checked it out Friday and it sounds like it's coming from around cylinder 3 or 4 on the passenger side. Car only has 102k on it.. which was really surprising.

[Blkcobra01]

Damn. Well if you have a coyote motor and it's not a simple fix. I would way the cost's and would think about swaping that in there.


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[egbertnr]

Damn. Well if you have a coyote motor and it's not a simple fix. I would way the cost's and would think about swaping that in there.


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Yeah I have basically an entire different driveline...coyote, t56, and an 04 IRS that likely will eventually find its way in the car. It's currently sitting in my 86 mustang but that car is going into storage for a while until I can bring myself to either sell or get back to it. It's currently sits as an empty shell.

I'd be tempted to throw the coyote in and keep the t45 behind it but not sure if it would like the 100+ more hp from the coyote.

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[Stangman]

6 speed or nothing!

[Blkcobra01]

6 speed or nothing!

This! There are a couple of these I believe two that have been done on svtp one was a 98 BAB Cobra.

[egbertnr]

This! There are a couple of these I believe two that have been done on svtp one was a 98 BAB Cobra.

Thats on the list, but its also the next largest expense for the project. I have the trans, but I want to upgrade the input shaft, ideally Id like to freshen up the entire trans, along with buying a new clutch and flywheel.

[Blkcobra01]

Yeah may as well while the trans is out too.


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[egbertnr]

I got impatient and decided to start looking for the noise. Didn't identify anything last night but the plan tonight is to start the car without the valve cover and see what happens.
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[Blkcobra01]

Good deal I wonder what it is.


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[JIMS SVT]

Injectors pulsing? Mine always had a slight sound to it. Even with a different set of heads. Same injectors.

[egbertnr]

Injectors pulsing? Mine always had a slight sound to it. Even with a different set of heads. Same injectors.

Its defiantly more then injectors. I can hear those and I am pretty familiar with that sound having a direct injection ecoboost, injecters tick like crazy on that....everyone gives me crap about that. I am trying to upload videos.
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[Stangman]

From the video he sent me yesterday of it running w/ the cam cover off, it's definitely centered over the 3rd cylinder or 4th cylinder, but with two rows of lash adjusters it's really hard to tell.

[egbertnr]

From the video he sent me yesterday of it running w/ the cam cover off, it's definitely centered over the 3rd cylinder or 4th cylinder, but with two rows of lash adjusters it's really hard to tell.
Yeah I'm trying to upload that one but it's not playing nice.

I also had what I consider to be more than the normal amount of glitter in the oil change I did last night.
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[Blkcobra01]

Is it from the top end of the motor for sure? I always thought the bottom ends in these were weaker then the 99-01 Cobra's.


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[egbertnr]

Is it from the top end of the motor for sure? I always thought the bottom ends in these were weaker then the 99-01 Cobra's.


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I won't know the condition of the bottom end until I get the pan off. Hopefully I'll tackle that this weekend.

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[Blkcobra01]

Hope it's nothing major.


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[Blkcobra01]

Hope it's nothing major. Friend of mine had a 98 that spun a bearing and have heard of a few of these doing that.


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[egbertnr]

Hope it's nothing major.


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You and me both. Was really thinking I had a simple fix on my hands and I could enjoy the car this summer and coyote swap over the winter, but that may happen sooner than later.

[egbertnr]

Coming up on a year of having this car and hoping to get it on the road this summer. I have about 98% of all the parts I need. Last major items are a catback setup for an IRS car and a programmer(wanting an SCT X4 but may settle for an xcal3). Been looking for a lightly used IRS exhaust but I may bite the bullet and buy a new Bassani 3" catback. It along with my X pipe will need some minor modification to bolt up.

Car currently sits with the IRS swapped into it, all new SS hard break lines and new braided SS lines going out to the wheels. Need to put new pads and rotors on too. Engine is ready to go it which I would like to accomplish this weekend and then start running wires for the control pack and run my new fuel lines. I went with the coyote swap kit from highflowfuel.com in order to keep my stock tank and pump hanger. They have a nice hanger that has AN fittings on it along with their 340lph pump which is way more than enough for a stock coyote. Its a super slow project doing most all of it in my little garage. Once its up and running I want to take care of the aesthetics, be it some fresh paint or possibly a wrap just and some new wheels. It should have stock 96-97 cobra wheels on it to start making the car look like a lowered 97 cobra...

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[2Fast4You]

Just keep at it, like to see how it ends up.

[egbertnr]

I have to ask....Anyone familar with using Ford Racings speed cal box? I have been working with a guy that has done a couple swaps and I believe I am going to need a box to convert the signal from my T56 to something the control pack can understand in order to prevent stalling issue, as well as maybe running a second unit to send a calibrated signal to my speedometer VSS to OSS. I do not hting I can accomplish both task with one speed cal box. Of anything knows something about this let me know. What I have going on --->97 cobra with stock cluster----coyote engine with FRPP control pack----04 cobra T56----04 cobra IRS

[egbertnr]

Engine and Trans have been in for a while now and finally got the new fuel tank in. Now for my least favorite part. Wiring and running hoses. I am particular about that stuff but I don't have the talent to do it like I envision it going...at least it never works out like that. I also need to find a little more clearance between the hood and JLT. Probably should have used spacers or possibly some alternate fan that has a differ shroud.

Changing all the bushings in the IRS sucked too.

The full exhaust pic is one I stole from another coyote swap car and shows something I want to try on my exhaust. Double X with some bassani mufflers.

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[draggin50]

Nice progress! That's gonna be a fun car!

[Blkcobra01]

Looks great. Nice work.


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[Walter]

Double x pipe?

[NXcoupe]

Looks good so far!

[egbertnr]

Double x pipe?

Yeah the guys car in the picture above claims it took a lot of the rasp out of the coyote. A lot of the ones I have heard with a single X get raspy which some guys like, but not my thing. Could also do an H pipe but since I already have the BBK x for the swap I want to have the exhaust shop make another one and see what happens. There are a few companies out there making double X's for the 11 and up cars apparently which is probably where the idea originated from. We'll see what happens. I have talked alot with Dale Lewis about exhaust setups, I figured since I have to make something up custom might as well be different, if nothing else it will be a conversation piece that you wont really see unless its on a lift, lol.

[egbertnr]

For anyone looking for an aftermarket pump hanger for a swap or just replacing your stock hanger and wanting to use hoes, check out the site below. They make a hanger with -6 and -8 lines on the lines and makes life simple, no extra adapters.

http://www.highflowfuel.com/i-8185250-hfp-coyote-swap-fox-body-sn95-complete-fuel-system-1986-1997.html?ref=category:191438

[redfirepearlgt]

Woo-Hoo!!! A coyote swap!

[JIMS SVT]

Hell....Put a x pipe after the mufflers too lol

[Walter]

Like an XXX-pipe?

[egbertnr]

Like an XXX-pipe?
Then I'll need to do a color change to my interior to red... [emoji12]

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[egbertnr]

Hell....Put a x pipe after the mufflers too lol
Know of any shops that will do a 3" setup? I was told Mckinneys in hamersville. I'd think there would be tons of shops able to bend 3"

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[JIMS SVT]

I've never really looked into it to see who could do it.

[NXcoupe]

Actually very hard to find around here. And none do mandrel bends, so it will be decreased radius. If you find a place that can mandrel bend and does 3", post it up.

[egbertnr]

Actually very hard to find around here. And none do mandrel bends, so it will be decreased radius. If you find a place that can mandrel bend and does 3", post it up.
That's what I've heard and was afraid of.

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[IWRBB]

Like an XXX-pipe?

https://www.svtperformance.com/forums/threads/fr500-m58-irs-catback.1029883/

[egbertnr]

https://www.svtperformance.com/forums/threads/fr500-m58-irs-catback.1029883/
Well hell now I want to do that!

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[2Fast4You]

I would contact Rob at Rogue Race Cars or Rob at Tri-State Muffler, I'm sure either of them could do it.

[egbertnr]

I would contact Rob at Rogue Race Cars or Rob at Tri-State Muffler, I'm sure either of them could do it.

I thought about Rob, hes like 2 miles from my house, but Id hate to bother a guy of his caliber with my little catback exhaust.