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1baddlx
02-21-2016, 02:11 PM
Let's help the ohio man out!go kasich

redfirepearlgt
02-21-2016, 02:16 PM
Does your union committeeman know about this endorsement? I hope you cleared it with the local first. LOL! If not I at least commend you for thinking for yourself. :bigthumb

1baddlx
02-21-2016, 02:25 PM
Does your union committeeman know about this endorsement? I hope you cleared it with the local first. LOL! If not I at least commend you for thinking for yourself. :bigthumb

He will come around..no work,no taxes

Goldenpony
02-21-2016, 05:14 PM
Nope, I'm still in the Trump camp

CNTLOSE
02-21-2016, 11:41 PM
Yeah, after his outright lies about public workers and the fact he created a state surplus by taking money away from local communities I think he can rot in hell.

04 Venom
02-22-2016, 12:29 AM
The only two candidates that I respect for not altering their message because they are (were) running for president are Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders. I won't be voting for either, but they stand out for their honesty in terms of saying exactly what they wanted to do. The rest range from cynical liars to the jackals that say what they think will get them elected.

Colin Powell for president. Ross Perot was 24 years too early, dammit.

04 Venom
02-22-2016, 12:34 AM
Yeah, after his outright lies about public workers and the fact he created a state surplus by taking money away from local communities I think he can rot in hell.

Right on. Counties and cities had to cut services drastically or raise taxes when Kasich cut in half the amounts that the state sent back to local and county governments. Reagan did the same thing in the 1980s; he cut programs at the federal level and dumped the burden on the states.

1baddlx
02-22-2016, 06:58 AM
Yeah, after his outright lies about public workers and the fact he created a state surplus by taking money away from local communities I think he can rot in hell.

Is that the definition of politics?

cstreu1026
02-22-2016, 07:35 AM
Right on. Counties and cities had to cut services drastically or raise taxes when Kasich cut in half the amounts that the state sent back to local and county governments. Reagan did the same thing in the 1980s; he cut programs at the federal level and dumped the burden on the states.

Am I the only one that sees a major problem with sending money to Columbus so it be redistributed back to municipalities, counties, etc.? That's pretty much the definition of inefficiency.

k062693w
02-22-2016, 08:01 AM
Kasich is OUT !!!

1baddlx
02-22-2016, 08:43 AM
Looks like it's going to be Clinton vs trump..

04 Venom
02-22-2016, 12:39 PM
Am I the only one that sees a major problem with sending money to Columbus so it be redistributed back to municipalities, counties, etc.? That's pretty much the definition of inefficiency.

Counties do not have the authority to levy an income tax as the state does. Even if they did, some rural counties would not generate enough revenue to cover infrastructure and public safety expenses.

Mista Bone
02-22-2016, 04:26 PM
No more HIV/STD testing, birth control pills or condoms, Thanks Kasich!

cstreu1026
02-22-2016, 05:09 PM
I don't buy that one bit. I had a meeting for emergency planning and community right to know at Columbus Public Health and there was definitely free birth control to be had.

04 Venom
02-22-2016, 05:25 PM
I don't buy that one bit. I had a meeting for emergency planning and community right to know at Columbus Public Health and there was definitely free birth control to be had.

In all areas of the state?

1baddlx
02-22-2016, 07:25 PM
Do porn stars still have to be tested monthly?

Goldenpony
02-22-2016, 07:36 PM
That's what we need, more "free stuff".

cstreu1026
02-22-2016, 08:59 PM
Well if you don't want abortions and exponential growth in the number of kids waiting for the ridiculous adoption system to work then yes free rubbers and birth control is what we need.

CNTLOSE
02-22-2016, 09:18 PM
Is that the definition of politics?

Yeah, but his lies directly affected me and my family. Because to him we are "idiots".

Mista Bone
02-23-2016, 04:26 PM
Do porn stars still have to be tested monthly?

Every two weeks....

Goldenpony
02-23-2016, 08:28 PM
OK, but why should we expect the government to pay for our birth control? Should they pay for our vitamins? Our aspirin? Our cough syrup?

Mista Bone
02-23-2016, 10:29 PM
OK, but why should we expect the government to pay for our birth control? Should they pay for our vitamins? Our aspirin? Our cough syrup?

Because it is A LOT cheaper the paying welfare/WIC/Medicaid for 18 years! Lets infect every drug user with HIV, like what happened in IN town. Who do you think is gonna pay for their medical costs? Hospitals won't let them die, just raise the rates on procedures that are paid by insurance money....thanks Obamacare!

Goldenpony
02-23-2016, 11:10 PM
Yea, it's too bad we can't take personal responsibility. I remember when I was first married, we just went to the drug store and got our birth control pills. Of course, that was before Obama phones too.

04 Venom
02-23-2016, 11:58 PM
Because it is A LOT cheaper the paying welfare/WIC/Medicaid for 18 years! Lets infect every drug user with HIV, like what happened in IN town. Who do you think is gonna pay for their medical costs? Hospitals won't let them die, just raise the rates on procedures that are paid by insurance money....thanks Obamacare!

That happened long before Obamacare started. Remember when you had to go to the hospital for a procedure? Now every hospital has multiple clinics all over town. Who paid for all of those new facilities? Remember when you went to a private practice doctor? No more, hospitals have bought all the practices in most cities; your doctor is now employed by a large healthcare conglomerate. This is done to ensure a steady flow of patients for the higher cost procedures. You can blame Obamacare for everything, but that isn't scratching the surface. Remember, the hospitals ans insurance companies were the biggest supporters of Obamacare.

cstreu1026
02-24-2016, 08:03 AM
The sad part is that it isn't even economically viable for a small family practice doctor to exist without being part of some sort of conglomerate.

Goldenpony
02-24-2016, 11:56 AM
I agree with the above. I guess I am lucky, my doctor is still a private practice.

04 Venom
02-24-2016, 12:21 PM
The sad part is that it isn't even economically viable for a small family practice doctor to exist without being part of some sort of conglomerate.

Mark my words. The anti-competitive nature and the expense of healthcare will reach critical mass (much the way Trump has harnessed the anger in the Republican party) and there will be a consumer revolt. The result will be a single payer healthcare system.

The only thing that will prevent this is if the insurance companies go to war with the healthcare providers and that hasn't happened. Another thing that would help is to repeal the idiotic law preventing the federal government from negotiating prices with drug manufacturers in Medicare.

Ever wonder how all these non-profit hospitals can afford these new facilities and ultra-expensive medical devices? The hospital itself is separately incorporated as a not-for-profit corporation. Then they set up large numbers of for profit corporations, owned by the same people that own the hospital, that provide services to the hospital. Everything from financial services to doctors to diagnostic services make a profit on services they provide the hospital. The profits can be obscene, but technically the hospital is a non-profit.

The drug companies are equally adept at manipulating the market and here is just one example. When Proscar (generically known as 5 mg finasteride) was developed to treat enlarged prostate, the drug trials showed that it also was effective in treating male pattern baldness. About 10 years after the Proscar was patented, the drug company gets a separate patent for Propecia to treat baldness and get another 25 years of patent protection. What is in Propecia-- 1 mg of finasteride; in other words a 20% dose of Proscar. Because it is being employed to treat a different condition, it was able to get a separate patent. A prime example of why drug prices are so much more expensive here than other countries.

I guess you could say that the drug companies and hospitals have better lobbyists than you and I do. Wait.....on second thought, you and I don't have any lobbyists. Shit!

redfirepearlgt
02-24-2016, 01:03 PM
^^^ Man you really need to find something else to fill your retirement idle time. And I really don't want to know why you seem to know so much about Proscar. That's just scary.

04 Venom
02-24-2016, 01:14 PM
^^^ Man you really need to find something else to fill your retirement idle time. And I really don't want to know why you seem to know so much about Proscar. That's just scary.

LOL. I am enjoying being a crusty old bastard.

Mista Bone
02-24-2016, 02:02 PM
Need more Rogaine????

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/02/24/police-seek-bald-man-thefts-rogaine-supplements/80852708/

Rick93coupe
02-24-2016, 02:20 PM
That guys is brilliant, when he gets caught, he's going to say he doesn't remember doing it. The evidence will show he has memory problems, lol.

redfirepearlgt
02-24-2016, 07:17 PM
LOL. I am enjoying being a crusty old bastard.

I thought you were keeping busy ogling college coeds down there, what happened to that hobby? LOL!

04 Venom
02-24-2016, 07:43 PM
I thought you were keeping busy ogling college coeds down there, what happened to that hobby? LOL!

I'm old--not dead.

redfirepearlgt
02-24-2016, 08:27 PM
A guy can injure himself looking at all those coeds down there no matter how old he is!

Goldenpony
02-24-2016, 09:09 PM
I think Kasich is done.

1baddlx
03-16-2016, 12:05 AM
I think Kasich is done.

Did the kasichster win ohio?

Goldenpony
03-16-2016, 05:16 AM
Yes

Goldenpony
03-16-2016, 01:24 PM
Kasich is nothing more than sand in the gears. He'll make it that much easier that we will have another president Clinton.

1baddlx
03-16-2016, 02:12 PM
Kasich is nothing more than sand in the gears. He'll make it that much easier that we will have another president Clinton.

Ted Cruz out yet?

Goldenpony
03-16-2016, 03:36 PM
Nope

CNTLOSE
03-16-2016, 05:27 PM
If Trump does not get enough delegates I would not be surprised to see Kasich selected at the convention. The Republicans both hate Cruz and Trump so unless they select someone who did not run, Kasich will get the call.

Goldenpony
03-16-2016, 06:29 PM
He won't get my vote

Rick93coupe
03-16-2016, 06:31 PM
He won't get my vote

Nope, him staying in has been a bad dream come true.

Goldenpony
03-16-2016, 08:01 PM
Agreed

CNTLOSE
03-16-2016, 08:39 PM
I will vote for him to keep Hillary out. That would be worse in my opinion.

Blkcobra01
03-16-2016, 11:53 PM
I will vote for him to keep Hillary out. That would be worse in my opinion.

This! If for some reason Trump doesn't get the nomination.


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Rick93coupe
03-17-2016, 12:52 AM
This! If for some reason Trump doesn't get the nomination.


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He doesn't have a chance in hell in beating Hillary. Altough, I'm often baffled by the thought that she was EVER even considered, as a potential presidential nominee.

draggin50
03-17-2016, 01:08 AM
Ill vote for anyone other than Hillary or Bernie. That's my only option!

cstreu1026
03-17-2016, 09:21 AM
I will vote for the candidate I believe in because voting for the perceived lesser of two evils is total bullshit.

draggin50
03-17-2016, 10:41 AM
It is Cam, but I hate to see either of those 2 get in and I don't want to waste a vote on someone I know doesn't have a chance in beating them. Its a double edged sword for sure.

cstreu1026
03-17-2016, 11:23 AM
If you continue hold your nose and choose either A or B when you don't like either you are wasting a vote. Your only chance to tell the powers that be that you are sick and tired of the status quo is vote for someone else. If a third of fourth party can manage to get 5 or 10 percent of the vote it will send the message loud and clear.

Blkcobra01
03-17-2016, 08:42 PM
He doesn't have a chance in hell in beating Hillary. Altough, I'm often baffled by the thought that she was EVER even considered, as a potential presidential nominee.

I agree Hitlery should be in prison.


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redfirepearlgt
03-17-2016, 09:55 PM
If a third of fourth party can manage to get 5 or 10 percent of the vote it will send the message loud and clear.

Example? And where are you getting this hypothesis? Ralph Nader? Ross Perot? Just curious.

cstreu1026
03-17-2016, 10:14 PM
5% of the vote gets you in the game in terms of FEC funding, inclusion in debates, etc. Gary Johnson managed 2% of the vote in 2012. Assuming he gets the LP nomination getting 10% would be a huge victory for liberty.

Rick93coupe
03-17-2016, 11:01 PM
There's no viable third party candidate. I don't see it ever happening to be honest. You have to get behind the candidate you have, not the candidate you want. I do agree that the RNC and DNC are two wings of the same bird at this point but unless the Dems start to realize it too, I don't believe there will ever be a path for a third party. .02

cstreu1026
03-18-2016, 06:40 AM
Unless people stop thinking like that we will continue down the path to total devastation. Choosing democrat or republican because you been told you have to choose the lesser of two evils is like choosing which kind of cancer you want.

04 Venom
03-18-2016, 11:57 AM
The efficacy of a third party is not necessarily measured by whether it can field a candidate that can win the general election. For example even a aggregate vote in the 5-10% range can influence the election based upon whether more votes are siphoned off a Republican or Democratic candidate. Ross Perot pulled far more voters from Bush than Clinton in 1992. Nader peeled off far more voters from Gore in Florida in 2000.

The other factor to be considered is which states a third party gains votes. If a third party is strongest in the reddest of red states or bluest of blue states, the impact would be non-existent. If a third party has appeal across swing states, the impact could be significant. Even if a third party did not win, both parties would have to take its positions into account. Imagine what Ross Perot could do in today's political environment if he was 30 years younger.

Remember when the Tea Party claimed in 2009 that it was not affiliated with any political party (LOL)? Look at its impact upon the Republican Party since then. Even though the Tea Party faction is a minority within the Republican Party, its impact has been disproportional to its size.