The Dope Farmers

[vertigo]

Setup: Evening Jeep ride. We hop in, pick a direction, and turn down random roads to explore and look for cool spots to go wheeling or fishing. We head west on this particular evening and ease into south east Clermont county, in some pretty remote spots. We find a gravel road, and immediately look for a No Outlet sign, which doesn't exist. Cool! Where does it go? We saw a Chevy go down it, so we debate whether or not to go down it, and ultimately we make the turn. 10 miles an hour we go, with a creek on our left, and woods to the right. We are going slow because it's narrow, the jeep rides like crap, and to minimize dust that we three are breathing. A mile in, we see the same Chevy coming at us, and the driver gives us a strange wave. Further in, we see a van parked next to the "road" and a path across the creek that leads to an old airstream. We politely wave at the guy we see, and continue bebopping. A bit farther down we see a house on the right that has solar panels and very few Windows. It's fenced, and a sign reads "beware of guard dogs." A pit bull chases the length of the fence, to which I'm laughing because he has to stop, right? Wrong. The fence just ends, and suddenly we are forced to stop in order to not run the damned thing over. It approached the passenger side snarling and barking, and tries jumping in the jeep, which has the doors off. So, I launch hard, and sling gravel trying to get out of there. The dog chases us for a bit then gives up. We slow back down, laughing, wondering how strange this was and guess what? The fucking road ends. We get to go back.
I psyche myself up, spin around, and decide that if the dog tries jumping in again, it will die. I have a toddler in the back, so a 50lb angry pitbull inside isn't goin to work. I creep back down the road, see the dog back inside the fence, so we take off. A man yells "SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!" Guess what? No way, the dog is chasing us, we are sideways, peppering it with gravel, and it's still coming.
As the dog gives up, we slow and approach the Airstream, from which a four-wheeler is approaching, attempting to cut me off, and it dawns on me what we are currently involved in. Dope boys. Shit. As I debate bumping the quad with the jeep, I decide that since there are only 2 people out here, let me explain to one what's happening. He questions me hard enough where I unbuckle and am exiting the jeep. I look at Tami and tell her to jump in the seat and take off, I'll call her later. She looks panicked, the guy on the quad realizes what's about to happen, and quickly says "carry on, I'll talk to my neighbor." I toss it in gear and leave. A dirt bike comes up and meets the quad for a quick pow wow, and the quad follows us all the way out to the main road.
What's this place comin to when you can't go driving with your family? Lesson learned: no gravel roads for us!

[Stangman]

Ridiculous. I used to love driving random roads on a nice day... especially in brown/adams/clermont county... can't have any innocent fun anymore. Shit, turn those dirtbags in.

[vertigo]

I told my dad about it, and he works for the Village of Ripley. He passed it to his police chief, who I'm sure passed it to the local agency where those assholes were.

[IWRBB]

You should not to be on land that is not owned by you or your family/close friends that know you are there. The only exception is government land that is not restricted. Otherwise you are trespassing. It's tough for me to criticize anyone for not being happy about someone trespassing on their land. It's their land- they paid for it and pay taxes on it. Whether or not they are growing pot has nothing to do with it.

[vertigo]

I agree with you, however I was not "trespassing" to my knowledge. When I see a road that has a street sign, a stop sign, and markers demonstrating it to be a county road, I don't consider that private property. I don't go up driveways or trails without permission, but I see no reason to be criticized for taking my family down a road that is NOT marked as a private drive, but as a funded road. My family have been surveyors in this area for 50 years, so I have a decent idea of where private roads are.
Personally, I don't give a fuck who grows what. Not my business. But when I feel my family is unsafe on a public fucking road, I will try diplomacy first, and if that fails I will do my best to eliminate said threat, and any potential identifying witnesses. They can do them, I'll do me, and if those converge in a negative fashion, a course of animosity will be committed to, and whomever gets to walk away may continue their lives.

[k062693w]

You should not to be on land that is not owned by you or your family/close friends that know you are there. The only exception is government land that is not restricted. Otherwise you are trespassing. It's tough for me to criticize anyone for not being happy about someone trespassing on their land. It's their land- they paid for it and pay taxes on it. Whether or not they are growing pot has nothing to do with it.

I didn't see anywhere that he said he was on Private Land ...
He Clearly said he was on a road (Be it Gravel, Concrete or Asphalt) All roads are Public if maintained by a Government Entity ... Unless it's clearly marked as a Private Road with No Trespassing signs, He had as much right to go there as anybody ...


But I wouldn't expect you to understand that ...


Guy can't even tell of an experience he had without some "Greater than Thou" person telling what they THINK they did Wrong ...

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I agree with you, however I was not "trespassing" to my knowledge. When I see a road that has a street sign, a stop sign, and markers demonstrating it to be a county road, I don't consider that private property. I don't go up driveways or trails without permission, but I see no reason to be criticized for taking my family down a road that is NOT marked as a private drive, but as a funded road. My family have been surveyors in this area for 50 years, so I have a decent idea of where private roads are.
Personally, I don't give a fuck who grows what. Not my business. But when I feel my family is unsafe on a public fucking road, I will try diplomacy first, and if that fails I will do my best to eliminate said threat, and any potential identifying witnesses. They can do them, I'll do me, and if those converge in a negative fashion, a course of animosity will be committed to, and whomever gets to walk away may continue their lives.

TREED ... ^^^ THIS !!! ^^^

[vertigo]

That guy must be some asshole liberal civil rights attorney, or a grower.

[k062693w]

That guy must be some asshole liberal civil rights attorney, or a grower.

I'm guessing just Asshole !!! :lol:

[SN95N/A]

I don't see an issue with driving down a road that's not private..

[k062693w]

I don't see an issue with driving down a road that's not private..

But you're not an Asshole !!! :lol:

[vertigo]

Oh shit, got Aaron started...
This reminds me of Spaceballs: "I knew it, I'm surrounded by Assholes! Keep firing, Assholes!"

[SN95N/A]

You should not to be on land that is not owned by you or your family/close friends that know you are there. The only exception is government land that is not restricted. Otherwise you are trespassing. It's tough for me to criticize anyone for not being happy about someone trespassing on their land. It's their land- they paid for it and pay taxes on it. Whether or not they are growing pot has nothing to do with it.

^^Next time you go down the road vertigo,Don't go down this guys road!!

[IWRBB]

I agree with you, however I was not "trespassing" to my knowledge. When I see a road that has a street sign, a stop sign, and markers demonstrating it to be a county road, I don't consider that private property. I don't go up driveways or trails without permission, but I see no reason to be criticized for taking my family down a road that is NOT marked as a private drive, but as a funded road. My family have been surveyors in this area for 50 years, so I have a decent idea of where private roads are.
Personally, I don't give a fuck who grows what. Not my business. But when I feel my family is unsafe on a public fucking road, I will try diplomacy first, and if that fails I will do my best to eliminate said threat, and any potential identifying witnesses. They can do them, I'll do me, and if those converge in a negative fashion, a course of animosity will be committed to, and whomever gets to walk away may continue their lives.

To me, your first post it sounded like you were on some gravel back road without any type of road signage.

I've been in enough back woods places in KY to know to stay the hell out if I'm not 100% sure who's land I'm on, or know for sure I'm on a public road. People don't fuck around when it comes to someone driving thru their little slice of heaven. People running around on 4 wheelers get em riled up real quick. Glad you came out with the family and truck intact.

[redfirepearlgt]

You should not to be on land that is not owned by you or your family/close friends that know you are there. The only exception is government land that is not restricted. Otherwise you are trespassing. It's tough for me to criticize anyone for not being happy about someone trespassing on their land. It's their land- they paid for it and pay taxes on it. Whether or not they are growing pot has nothing to do with it.

Sounds like the man was on a public county gravel road. There are tons of those gravel one lane's where I come from. Stop sign at the end should designate it as such. No stop signs at the end of the field at our farm in SW Indiana where you come out onto the main road. That road is a private road thus no stop sign. However the gravel road that runs directly south of that is a gravel county road (Marin County Line Road) and does have a road sign designator and stop sign placed by the county. Sounds like the man was clear to ramble as he chose to me.

[vertigo]

^^Next time you go down the road vertigo,Don't go down this guys road!!


No, sir. I have no beef with them, or what they do. I'm not opposed to violence, but I see no reason to invite it. I have no reason to go there, I know where that road leads now!

[k062693w]

To me, your first post it sounded like you were on some gravel back road without any type of road signage.

I've been in enough back woods places in KY to know to stay the hell out if I'm not 100% sure who's land I'm on, or know for sure I'm on a public road. People don't fuck around when it comes to someone driving thru their little slice of heaven. People running around on 4 wheelers get em riled up real quick. Glad you came out with the family and truck intact.

Do you have mirrors mounted to your head ???
Because you sure Backpedal a lot !!! :lol:

[vertigo]

No, I may have been unintentionally vague, but since very few of you actually know me, I'll let you in a bit: living in Miami, I learned quickly to mind my own business, because I truly don't care how my neighbors earn their living. I didn't drive down unmarked roads in the Everglades, because the same rules apply.
Therefore I don't even turn around in driveways if I can help it, much less down private roads. When I surveyed with my dad, we made sure all of our vehicles were marked with the company name, just so we didn't take pot shots.

[Goldenpony]

Legalize it and this crap will go away, and the state will gain tax dollars to boot.