Presidential Candidates ???

[k062693w]

Discuss ...
Thoughts, Good, Bad, Indifferent ???

Donald Trump: I Like a Lot of what he is saying, I have also said for years that we need a Businessman as President ...

Carson: is a Very Intelligent Man, But he's somewhat of a Religious Nutjob (My Apologies to any Religious Nutjobs :lol: ) But the Young Earth thing really gets me, With him being a Neurosurgeon ...

HilldaBeast: She needs a Bullet between the eyes, And I can't imagine how Fu©€ed Up this Country will be if she's elected ...

These are the Only Candidates I see being relevant at the moment, But feel free to add others ...

These are my personal feelings and not what I expect others to think ...

Hopefully we can keep this somewhat civil !!!

[draggin50]

Hillary for Prison!!! I don't know how anyone could vote for her. Im sure they will though. We ended up with Obummer twice now...

Trump seems to say what everyone wants to hear. And I like that. Now if he can only follow thru with everything he says.

Carson just hits me wrong for some reason.

[k062693w]

Hillary for Prison!!! I don't know how anyone could vote for her. Im sure they will though. We ended up with Obummer twice now...

Trump seems to say what everyone wants to hear. And I like that. Now if he can only follow thru with everything he says.

Carson just hits me wrong for some reason.

So we pretty much agree !!!

[Goldenpony]

President Trump. Has a nice ring to it. His wife will make a nicer First Lady than Bill Clinton as First Dude.

[k062693w]

President Trump. Has a nice ring to it. His wife will make a nicer First Lady than Bill Clinton as First Dude.

She is Definitely Easy on the Eyes !!!
Much better than the Sasquatch that we have to look at now !!!

[redfirepearlgt]

Don Trump - Still has my interest. Not a politician, and who could seriously buy him on anything from a lobbyist standpoint? Then again everyone has their price.

Carly Fiorina - a strong minded business person. Not a politician. Formerly CEO of HP. Can stand her own even in the face of The Donald.

Ben Carson - yet again, not a politician. Smart man but fear he is to soft hearted. Otherwise no issues

Bobby Jindal - The one of two current running politicians I do like. Has pretty much told Obama and big government to pack sand on most issues.

Scott Wilson (I mean Scott Walker Thanks Aaron) - Great man as far as politicians seem to go. Has done good things in Wisconsin in my opinion. But I don't seem him going the distance.

Rick Perry - GONE AND GOODBYE.

Jeb Bush - Loved George W, had no use for the first Bush and even less for this one. Enough bush already.

The others? Don't care at this point.

Hillary? What a source for bad jokes.

[k062693w]

Don Trump - Still has my interest. Not a politician, and who could seriously buy him on anything from a lobbyist standpoint? Then again everyone has their price.

Carly Fiorina - a strong minded business person. Not a politician. Formerly CEO of HP. Can stand her own even in the face of The Donald.

Ben Carson - yet again, not a politician. Smart man but fear he is to soft hearted. Otherwise no issues

Bobby Jindal - The one of two current running politicians I do like. Has pretty much told Obama and big government to pack sand on most issues.

Scott Wilson - Great man as far as politicians seem to go. Has done good things in Wisconsin in my opinion. But I don't seem him going the distance.

Rick Perry - GONE AND GOODBYE.

Jeb Bush - Loved George W, had no use for the first Bush and even less for this one. Enough bush already.

The others? Don't care at this point.

Hillary? What a source for bad jokes.

I'm guessing that you meant Scott Walker ???
I don't think Walker has a shot, Too Much Uncertainty in him IMO ...

Fiorina: Oh Hell No !!! LOL

Jindal: Too Much of a Career Politician, Which I believe is why this Country is in the shape it's in ...

I'd like to see Every Career Politician get booted from Every Office ...

Again My opinions ...

[redfirepearlgt]

yeah had a brain fart.

Scott Walker

fixed it

[cstreu1026]

I was really pulling for Rand Paul since he was the only candidate that wasn't promising some combination of increased war, debt, spending, death, corporate welfare, private welfare, taxation, and regulation but his pandering to the religious right as of late really bothers me. I've always says he plays the game a whole lot better than his father ever did but it's beginning to make me question his integrity a Libertarian-like candidate. If the trend continues I'll be casting my vote for Gary Johnson again in 2016 provided to accepts the party's nomination to run.

[k062693w]

I was really pulling for Rand Paul since he was the only candidate that wasn't promising some combination of increased war, debt, spending, death, corporate welfare, private welfare, taxation, and regulation but his pandering to the religious right as of late really bothers me. I've always says he plays the game a whole lot better than his father ever did but it's beginning to make me question his integrity a Libertarian-like candidate. If the trend continues I'll be casting my vote for Gary Johnson again in 2016 provided to accepts the party's nomination to run.

I really liked Rand Paul, But he went off the rails early ...
He would have my vote, But I don't see that being an option ...

[cstreu1026]

He's much less idealistic than his father which is both good and bad. I think he fails to attract his father's supporters but also fails to attract the Christian Right and bomb everyone RINOs.

[k062693w]

So only 5 people have an opinion on the Candidates ???
I hope the Voter turnout next year is better, Or I see HilldaBeast winning on the Welfare Vote ...

[draggin50]

It's just one thing that most people don't talk about freely. Politics and religion.

[Moody]

I like Rand Paul and Trump. Figure America needs a doctor and a business man to put us on track. But that's just my .02

[k062693w]

It's just one thing that most people don't talk about freely. Politics and religion.

Would you feel more comfortable discussing Gay Porn ??? :lol:

[draggin50]

Im not as up to date on that but Ill try to keep up with ya!!

[Rick93coupe]

In the last couple of years I had been following Rand and before him Ron but I don't think either of them can ever garner enough support. I also really liked Rubio, a few yrs ago he made some really heart felt speeches about the country and got my attention. I like the idea of a man who doesn't feel the need to pander and pretty well tells it like it is and that's part of the reason I'm considering Trump. He is a man of action and gets shit done, nobody can take that away from him. He seems to care about the country and although he isn't everything I'd like to see in a candidate, I believe he's a big step in the right direction. I also like Carson, although he's got a rough road ahead of them, I think he may be too much of a nice guy for a job like that.

[draggin50]

I liked Rubio's speech on Iran.

I still think Trump is the only one with the majority of what I want to see happen. He may not be the best for the job, but better than the others. Im tired of the lifetime politicians... They aren't fixing shit. It needs a whole house cleansing!

[Pops Fun]

Hi
I like Trump he is my first pick then Carson then
Fiorina. She could move up during the debate, we'll see. Still a long time til elections...

Just don't see the donald making the long pull...... could be wrong, well see.

most others seem like the same old thing.. had hope for Rand but not holding up..

[redfirepearlgt]

Steve, that's what many said about the actor in 1980 as well. It will be interesting. I'm with you though in early opinion and ranking.

[k062693w]

It's become a Shame that we are left choosing the Lesser of two Evils versus the Best Person for the Job ...

But that's what has happened with all the Career Politicians ...
I think there should be term limits on Every Office, From Mayor to President ...
I believe that Term Limits would help get this Country back in line ... Too easy for these life long politicians to be bought buy special interests, And work for them instead of Us !!!

[Rick93coupe]

It's become a Shame that we are left choosing the Lesser of two Evils versus the Best Person for the Job ...

But that's what has happened with all the Career Politicians ...
I think there should be term limits on Every Office, From Mayor to President ...
I believe that Term Limits would help get this Country back in line ... Too easy for these life long politicians to be bought buy special interests, And work for them instead of Us !!!

You said it, term limits should be everyone's priority, no matter what your party affiliation.

[draggin50]

That would be nice...

And Id love to see a decorated military member in office for President. Someone with more than just a college degree. I think that should be a requirement as well.

[cstreu1026]

Don't fool yourselves. Trump is in it for himself and himself only.

As long as we vote for the lesser of two evils we will it always be left with evil and a corrupt system where two parties are barely distinguishable from one another.

[k062693w]

Don't fool yourselves. Trump is in it for himself and himself only.

As long as we vote for the lesser of two evils we will it always be left with evil and a corrupt system where two parties are barely distinguishable from one another.

Exactly ...
But that's the choices that we have ...
ANYONE has to be Better than the Muslim and Sasquatch occupying the White House Now !!!

Hope and Change ... More like Hoping we have some Change Left when he's gone !!!

[cstreu1026]

As long as you accept that there are only 2 choices and not voting for another party nothing will change. Of course the republicans and democrats are working well together to other parties off the ballot.

[redfirepearlgt]

Exactly ...
But that's the choices that we have ...
ANYONE has to be Better than the Muslim and Sasquatch occupying the White House Now !!!

Hope and Change ... More like Hoping we have some Change Left when he's gone !!!

Who are you speaking of? President or first witch? LOL!

[evil8]

They are all the lesser of Evil!

[k062693w]

Who are you speaking of? President or first witch? LOL!

POTUS is the Muslim, And FLOTUS is a Sasquatch !!! :lol:

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They are all the lesser of Evil!

There is ONLY One True Evil !!!

XOSTTFMF !!!

[vertigo]

A
Don't fool yourselves. Trump is in it for himself and himself only.

As long as we vote for the lesser of two evils we will it always be left with evil and a corrupt system where two parties are barely distinguishable from one another.
I agree with you 100%, but the same can be said about any candidate. Sadly, the idealistic politicians such as Rand Paul are demonized by both the left and right as kooky, therefore rarely get taken as seriously as they should be.
My thoughts have always been that if you think you should be president, then you probably shouldn't.

[k062693w]

I believe Rand held his own tonight, For what little time he was given ...

Fiorina came across very HilldaBeastish !!! That was my nice way of not using the C word !!! :lol:

Carson needs to Grow a Pair !!!

Trump was Trump !!! LOL

I did think Kasich and Christie made Good Points ...

And Bush ... F¥©K Him and the Entire Bush Family !!!

[vertigo]

I believe Rand held his own tonight, For what little time he was given ...

Fiorina came across very HilldaBeastish !!! That was my nice way of not using the C word !!!

It's ok, you're among friends...you can C-Bomb if you want.
If i believe Mark Levin, her instructions from the GOP were to go after Trump.
As a Marine, you are probably on my train of thought as to what leadership should entail. Rand Paul stands for what he believes in, not for what he's told to. IMHO leadership, real fucking leadership, not the horseshit that Nora O'Nazi, or Gayle Winfrey would have you believe is leadership, is embodied in 2 words. Only two: FOLLOW ME.

[k062693w]

It's ok, you're among friends...you can C-Bomb if you want.
If i believe Mark Levin, her instructions from the GOP were to go after Trump.
As a Marine, you are probably on my train of thought as to what leadership should entail. Rand Paul stands for what he believes in, not for what he's told to. IMHO leadership, real fucking leadership, not the horseshit that Nora O'Nazi, or Gayle Winfrey would have you believe is leadership, is embodied in 2 words. Only two: FOLLOW ME.

I think you and I would get along Great !!! :lol:

[vertigo]

I think you and I would get along Great !!! :lol:

I usually keep my opinions to myself, but....fuck it.

[vertigo]

Maybe I enjoy the nonfiction works of Richard Marcinko more than the average person should.

[k062693w]

I usually keep my opinions to myself, but....fuck it.

PM Sent ...

[k062693w]

**DRUDGE POLL** WHO WON THE 2ND REPUBLICAN DEBATE '16?

BUSH
1%
1,539 votes

CARSON
5%
6,873 votes

CHRISTIE
1%
1,354 votes

CRUZ
6%
8,185 votes

FIORINA
14%
20,826 votes

HUCKABEE
1%
850 votes

KASICH
1%
1,745 votes

PAUL
6%
8,402 votes

RUBIO
4%
5,214 votes

TRUMP
61%
89,019 votes

WALKER
1%
1,364 votes


145,371 Total Votes

[Goldenpony]

Trump is still my man

[04 Venom]

I found the entire debate depressing.

Trump is the best hope of the Democrats, but he won't last. As others have said, he's in it for himself.

[vertigo]

I found the entire debate depressing.

Trump is the best hope of the Democrats, but he won't last. As others have said, he's in it for himself.
I could've sworn he was running as a republican, but maybe that's a Freudian slip?

[04 Venom]

I thought I was clear. Trump winning the Republican nomination (unlikely) will ensure a Democrat winning the presidency.

[Rick93coupe]

LOL

[vertigo]

Hahahahaha! I follow now!

[mad max]

I like rand Paul , have for years but he seems to be losing ground . Trump I think would be good , he's not afraid to upset the apple cart . I'm praying Hillary goes to prison but people like that are never really punished for their crimes .

[k062693w]

I like rand Paul , have for years but he seems to be losing ground . Trump I think would be good , he's not afraid to upset the apple cart . I'm praying Hillary goes to prison but people like that are never really punished for their crimes .

Yep ... HilldaBeast needs to be in Prison for Life ...
Or just a Well Placed .223 !!!

[vertigo]

Ugh saw Bernie Sanders on the Can't Broadcast Shit news this morning with Nora O'Nazi. I think she surgically attached her lips to his wrinkled, whiny ass. This T-Wat won't be happy until we are the United Soviet States of America.

[Goldenpony]

I'm tired of electing candidates that say I'd like to do this and that. I want a Doer, somebody that has proven he CAN get things done. For me, that is Donald J. Trump.

[04 Venom]

Unfortunately, electing a president is only part of the solution. Congress is a bigger problem. Only about 10% of the Congressional districts are truly competitive after two decades of state legislatures drawing "safe" districts for their party. Ohio and Florida are great examples of this. The Florida electorate revolted and adopted an amendment to the state constitution mandating fair and competitive districts whenever possible. The Florida legislature ignored the law when drawing the present districts and the state supreme court ordered new districts be drawn. The legislature was called into special session this summer and did nothing. The state supreme court is now going to re-do the districts. The leaders of the Florida house and senate should be in jail for contempt of the court order.

And, I have to ask, what has Trump done other than making money for himself? Any multi-millionaire or billionaire is equally qualified. He is a joke and evidence of how broken the political process is currently.

[Rick93coupe]

Career politicians broke the system. You can ask what Trump has done but I would ask what had Obama done.

[Rick93coupe]

Did career politicians build this nation?

[Goldenpony]

One thing, he has created more jobs than all of the other candidates combined.

[Goldenpony]

Career politicians broke the system. You can ask what Trump has done but I would ask what had Obama done.

What has Obama done? He has run a great country into the ground. He has lost our standing with our allies and given our enemies a pass to become bolder. We're now looking down the nuclear gun barrel of Iran. He has ruined our health care system. He has turned his back on our police. He has also completely turned his back on our only friend in the Middle East, Israel. Oh yea, he's gutting our military like a fish. How's that for a start?

[vertigo]

What has Obama done? He has run a great country into the ground. He has lost our standing with our allies and given our enemies a pass to become bolder. We're now looking down the nuclear gun barrel of Iran. He has ruined our health care system. He has turned his back on our police. He has also completely turned his back on our only friend in the Middle East, Israel. Oh yea, he's gutting our military like a fish. How's that for a start?
All of that. Eff him, his party, John Boehner
, Mitch McConnell and any career politician who has done nothing but kowtow to everyone to make sure we don't hurt anyone's feelings. At what point does the basic tenets of utilitarianism overcome our blind naïveté and gut our "representation" system in order to better things for THE MANY?
IMHO Trumps most alluring asset: he is from outside the beltway.
To 04Venom's point: I am Floridian, he's right. If things don't get voted the controlling party's way, redraw the districts.

[vertigo]

After reading that I sound socialist. Gross.
I will vote for a Constitutionalist (or the nearest reasonable facsimile), every time. I think those rare people are the one who should be empowered as they haven't lost sight of what should be important.

[cstreu1026]

I'm so sick of hearing about Israel. Our relationship with them has done nothing but cause us grief for decades now.

[04 Venom]

I'm so sick of hearing about Israel. Our relationship with them has done nothing but cause us grief for decades now.

Agree

[Rick93coupe]

What has Obama done? He has run a great country into the ground. He has lost our standing with our allies and given our enemies a pass to become bolder. We're now looking down the nuclear gun barrel of Iran. He has ruined our health care system. He has turned his back on our police. He has also completely turned his back on our only friend in the Middle East, Israel. Oh yea, he's gutting our military like a fish. How's that for a start?

That was a rhetorical question. I know he hadn't done anything, which is why I said what HAD he done.

Oh, and I stand With Israel.

[Goldenpony]

I knew it rhetorical, just going over some facts.

I also stand with Israel.

[draggin50]

I stand with Israel also.

[vertigo]

Now that we've successfully navigated away from potentially anti-Semitic comments....
Dr. Ben Carson was on the Communist Broadcasting Station news this morning. C-Yunt Gayle King and T-What Nora O'Donnell, and even King BoTard Charlie Rose were grilling him trying to convince him that we need more gun control, and he answered intelligently, and was very cool under pressure. I think that guy is worth paying attention to.

[k062693w]

Now that we've successfully navigated away from potentially anti-Semitic comments....
Dr. Ben Carson was on the Communist Broadcasting Station news this morning. C-Yunt Gayle King and T-What Nora O'Donnell, and even King BoTard Charlie Rose were grilling him trying to convince him that we need more gun control, and he answered intelligently, and was very cool under pressure. I think that guy is worth paying attention to.

Why were you watching CBS ??? :lol:

My biggest problem with Carson is he seems to have the Oomph of a slug ... He just comes across too laid back with No Fire in him ...
I know he's a Surgeon, And works under pressure ...
Kind if Scares me to think how he'd react in a crisis ...

[cstreu1026]

Cool, calm, and methodical under pressure would be a good thing in a leader. My biggest issue with him almost every other republican candidate is the pandering to the religious right and their willingness to impose their beliefs on the entire nation.

[NO SHOT]

I stand with Israel also.
^^yes

[redfirepearlgt]

Cool, calm, and methodical under pressure would be a good thing in a leader. My biggest issue with him almost every other republican candidate is the pandering to the religious right and their willingness to impose their beliefs on the entire nation.

We are in full agreement of calm and cool. That was my thought about Carson as well though I am not completely sold on him. I'm not sold on any one at the moment. I can rule a few out though like Jeb Bush, Ran Paul, Chris from Joisey, and Huckabee. But otherwise I am still undecided. Way too early to cast a lot yet IMO, but weeding out is easy enough.

Just curious. Is it "Christianity" you dislike or is it religion in general? Or maybe you simply don't like people catering to any certain group of ANY type? Atheism, Humanism, Eastern Mysticism, Hinduism, Islam, Agnosticism, environmentalism, and Satanism, are all religions as well by definition of the word. Was it not John Lennon who said, "I don't believe in 'isms'?" Yet he was an Agnostic by admission if history serves me correctly, not that I was a bug music fan by any means. I really am simply curious since you like to bring this up time and again in the past. I hope you equally (unlike Lennon) dislike ALL religions and not just the Christians. At least then I could respect you as being unbiased in that regard.

And as some forethought, I don't hate other religions. I don't agree with many of them but I don't hate them either. Nor do I dislike you regardless of your preferences, though we often find ourselves on opposite sides of topics of this nature. You are an interesting guy. Hope to see you soon.

Oh and congrats on that awesome pass at Bowling Green. Bet that made your day.

[cstreu1026]

No issues at all with any religion but I do have an issue with people forcing their will on others. I also take issue with people that are constantly "in your face" with their religion and even worse how it's the only right belief.

Since its a slippery slope towards religious oppression only one kind or another I'd prefer government officials keep their religious beliefs to themselves and out of the office.

[vertigo]

Why were you watching CBS ??? :lol:

My biggest problem with Carson is he seems to have the Oomph of a slug ... He just comes across too laid back with No Fire in him ...
I know he's a Surgeon, And works under pressure ...
Kind if Scares me to think how he'd react in a crisis ...
I usually watch CBS in the morning for Local 12 news, then it stays on until I leave. Plus, I watch Fox at work, and cbs in the morning. By analytics and deductive reasoning, the truth can be found somewhere between the partisan bullshit.

[k062693w]

No issues at all with any religion but I do have an issue with people forcing their will on others. I also take issue with people that are constantly "in your face" with their religion and even worse how it's the only right belief.

Since its a slippery slope towards religious oppression only one kind or another I'd prefer government officials keep their religious beliefs to themselves and out of the office.

I agree 110% !!!

[k062693w]

We are in full agreement of calm and cool. That was my thought about Carson as well though I am not completely sold on him. I'm not sold on any one at the moment. I can rule a few out though like Jeb Bush, Ran Paul, Chris from Joisey, and Huckabee. But otherwise I am still undecided. Way too early to cast a lot yet IMO, but weeding out is easy enough.

Just curious. Is it "Christianity" you dislike or is it religion in general? Or maybe you simply don't like people catering to any certain group of ANY type? Atheism, Humanism, Eastern Mysticism, Hinduism, Islam, Agnosticism, environmentalism, and Satanism, are all religions as well by definition of the word. Was it not John Lennon who said, "I don't believe in 'isms'?" Yet he was an Agnostic by admission if history serves me correctly, not that I was a bug music fan by any means. I really am simply curious since you like to bring this up time and again in the past. I hope you equally (unlike Lennon) dislike ALL religions and not just the Christians. At least then I could respect you as being unbiased in that regard.

And as some forethought, I don't hate other religions. I don't agree with many of them but I don't hate them either. Nor do I dislike you regardless of your preferences, though we often find ourselves on opposite sides of topics of this nature. You are an interesting guy. Hope to see you soon.

Oh and congrats on that awesome pass at Bowling Green. Bet that made your day.

I don't think being an Agnostic is a religion ... Never seen an Agnostic Church, But of course I've never seen a one legged Nun with blue hair walking a goat !!! :lol:


But let's try to keep the conversation about Politics and not bring Religion into it ... I don't think Cam was trying to make it a Religious Debate but showing what he dislikes about some candidates ...
Political threads may get heated, But Religious threads NEVER end well ...

[vertigo]

No shit, Aaron. Religion is a great way to end all the fun of this topic!

[k062693w]

No shit, Aaron. Religion is a great way to end all the fun of this topic!

And End Friendships !!!
Seen it more than once ...

[vertigo]

Me too. I just revived this topic to bring up the dude I thought had good ideas. How or why Jesus or Israel or the Prophet got involved is beyond me.
How about Buddha? Can we offend Buddhists, or are they like the Amish, and will never find out we were shit talking them?

[redfirepearlgt]

No issues at all with any religion but I do have an issue with people forcing their will on others. I also take issue with people that are constantly "in your face" with their religion and even worse how it's the only right belief.

Since its a slippery slope towards religious oppression only one kind or another I'd prefer government officials keep their religious beliefs to themselves and out of the office.

Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. :bigthumb

Shows people can ask questions and still respect each other at the end of the day. Appreciate it.

[cstreu1026]

I really think the extreme effort most of the candidates seem to be making to chase the religious vote is alienating a lot of people. I think it makes Rand Paul look far more like a politician than his father who is a fairly religious man but never seemed to put that before individual liberty and freedom.

[k062693w]

I really think the extreme effort most of the candidates seem to be making to chase the religious vote is alienating a lot of people. I think it makes Rand Paul look far more like a politician than his father who is a fairly religious man but never seemed to put that before individual liberty and freedom.

I really wish Rand would be Nominated and Elected ... I agree with about 95% of what he is and stands for ...

I think he'd make a Great No Bullshit type President ...
I think him and Trump both have the same things in mind to get this Country back to where it should be, Just Trump is a Lot Louder and a Little More Obnoxious about it !!! LOL


I truly don't know and don't even want to think about what will happen to this Great Country should HilldaBeastish somehow make it ...

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Thanks. Appreciate the feedback. :bigthumb

Shows people can ask questions and still respect each other at the end of the day. Appreciate it.

Are you saying I don't Respect You ??? :lol:

[cstreu1026]

I'll vote for Rand in the primary and if he doesn't win the nomination I will look elsewhere in the election. I won't continue to vote for the lesser of two evils.

[k062693w]

I'll vote for Rand in the primary and if he doesn't win the nomination I will look elsewhere in the election. I won't continue to vote for the lesser of two evils.

I Agree ...
You are Honestly the only person to change my thinking about Politics in 46 years ... You definitely have given me a new outlook on elections ... And I Thank You for that ...


But that doesn't mean I respect you !!! :lol:

[cstreu1026]

If more people don't reject the idea of its either A or B we will always be stuck the same corrupt politicians we have now.

[vertigo]

Just to reignite the flames of religious fervor: you know the only group of people more annoying than "in your face" religious zealots? Reformed cigarette smokers. Fuck them.

[k062693w]

Just to reignite the flames of religious fervor: you know the only group of people more annoying than "in your face" religious zealots? Reformed cigarette smokers. Fuck them.

And Reformed Alcoholics ...

I quit smoking, But I definitely don't say anything to those that do ... I prefer to keep my opinions to myself !!! :lol:

[vertigo]

And for the fun of it, let's include racists who say, "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black/brown/yellow/camel," etc. let's not vote for those guys. I'll vote for a racist who owns the fact that he's racist.:flipoff:

And IWRBB...he's mastered the political Crawdad. For president!!!

[k062693w]

And for the fun of it, let's include racists who say, "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black/brown/yellow/camel," etc. let's not vote for those guys. I'll vote for a racist who owns the fact that he's racist.:flipoff:

And IWRBB...he's mastered the political Crawdad. For president!!!

:lol: LMFAO :lol:

[redfirepearlgt]

Me too. I just revived this topic to bring up the dude I thought had good ideas. How or why Jesus or Israel or the Prophet got involved is beyond me.
How about Buddha? Can we offend Buddhists, or are they like the Amish, and will never find out we were shit talking them?

oops I forgot about them. LOL!

[vertigo]

Not that I'm a racist, nor do I endorse racism. Some of my best friends are black, and Jewish, and Indian (casino, not slurpee)......

[redfirepearlgt]

I really wish Rand would be Nominated and Elected ... I agree with about 95% of what he is and stands for ...

I think he'd make a Great No Bullshit type President ...
I think him and Trump both have the same things in mind to get this Country back to where it should be, Just Trump is a Lot Louder and a Little More Obnoxious about it !!! LOL


I truly don't know and don't even want to think about what will happen to this Great Country should HilldaBeastish somehow make it ...

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Are you saying I don't Respect You ??? :lol:

You a funny guy Aaron. :D I respect anyone who can share differing opinions and return that same respect as well. Loved the nun and goat comment. That was a riot.

What I have zero tolerance for is Political Correctness. Hate my views, hate my opinions and vice versa I am fine with that. But the political correctness crap ended with me in the Clinton Years. Had too much of that crap in California. Respecting different views and not being afraid to ask questions for clarification or understanding on any topic goes a long way.

Hope to see everyone soon. If I were choosing today I would choose Trump for P, Carson for VP, and Fiorina for Sec of State. There you have it. Supper is on and I'm hungry. See YA!

[Rick93coupe]

Not that I'm a racist, nor do I endorse racism. Some of my best friends are black, and Jewish, and Indian (casino, not slurpee)......

Casino not slurpee, lol, that's a first for me. We usually say dot not feather or vice versa.

[k062693w]

Casino not slurpee, lol, that's a first for me. We usually say dot not feather or vice versa.

I usually say Woo Woo not Red Dot !!! :lol:

[k062693w]

You a funny guy Aaron. :D I respect anyone who can share differing opinions and return that same respect as well. Loved the nun and goat comment. That was a riot.

What I have zero tolerance for is Political Correctness. Hate my views, hate my opinions and vice versa I am fine with that. But the political correctness crap ended with me in the Clinton Years. Had too much of that crap in California. Respecting different views and not being afraid to ask questions for clarification or understanding on any topic goes a long way.

Hope to see everyone soon. If I were choosing today I would choose Trump for P, Carson for VP, and Fiorina for Sec of State. There you have it. Supper is on and I'm hungry. See YA!

Perxactly ...

See I'll still Respect you in the morning, As long as you've washed your face and gargled !!! :lol:

[vertigo]

Casino not slurpee, lol, that's a first for me. We usually say dot not feather or vice versa.

See, I'm a dumb Floridian, and the only people allowed to own casinos there were the Seminoles and Micosucee (sp?) tribes. Conversely, the only people allowed to own Stop and Robs (and drive green Camrys) were the people from Lebanon or india.

[cstreu1026]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb162/cstreu1026/Cartoons%20And%20Such/47596C0D-1A7C-4839-B414-92A0D102D302_zpsofbdqmlo.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/cstreu1026/media/Cartoons%20And%20Such/47596C0D-1A7C-4839-B414-92A0D102D302_zpsofbdqmlo.jpg.html)

[04 Venom]

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb162/cstreu1026/Cartoons%20And%20Such/47596C0D-1A7C-4839-B414-92A0D102D302_zpsofbdqmlo.jpg (http://s206.photobucket.com/user/cstreu1026/media/Cartoons%20And%20Such/47596C0D-1A7C-4839-B414-92A0D102D302_zpsofbdqmlo.jpg.html)

Love it!

[pegasus]

Kasich has done such a great job for ohio tho :confused2 JK

[vertigo]

Kasich has done such a great job for ohio tho :confused2 JK


I smell sarcasm....

[k062693w]

Kasich has done such a great job for ohio tho :confused2 JK


I smell sarcasm....

I'm hoping !!! :lol:

[mustang8998]

I prefer to keep my opinions to myself !!! :lol:

Since when!??!?!

(unless you are talking about smoking?)

[k062693w]

Since when!??!?!

(unless you are talking about smoking?)

I always keep my opinions to myself ... I'm what some call an introvert ...









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[2Fast4You]

Yeah, just before they over runneth from your lips! Lol

[mustang8998]

I always keep my opinions to myself ... I'm what some call an introvert ...

No, no it's not.....it's not what they call you!

:lol:

[04 Venom]

Give Kasich credit for one important thing. He is the only candidate of either party that had the courage to say the words "entitlement reform". Predictably, all the other candidates immediately denounced the idea. With the surplus of idiots running for president, he has spoken like an adult. I am not predicting he will be the nominee.

[Goldenpony]

God, I hope Ben Carson doesn't get the Repub nomination. Hillary Clinton will eat him alive. I am backing Trump. I would love to see the Trumpster take the battle to Hillary. Battle of the Titans?

[k062693w]

God, I hope Ben Carson doesn't get the Repub nomination. Hillary Clinton will eat him alive. I am backing Trump. I would love to see the Trumpster take the battle to Hillary. Battle of the Titans?

Exactly ...

But Hell anymore I don't trust the Political/Voting system for it to not be set up so the HilldaBeast wins ...

[04 Venom]

God, I hope Ben Carson doesn't get the Repub nomination. Hillary Clinton will eat him alive. I am backing Trump. I would love to see the Trumpster take the battle to Hillary. Battle of the Titans?

Neither Carson or Trump will win the nomination.

[vertigo]

Neither Carson or Trump will win the nomination.

Care to expound on that one? Because if Rubio or Kasich get it, you might as well become citizens of Mexico. Hillary will Win and make being white, Christian, heterosexual, or gun owners illegal and deportable.

[Rick93coupe]

Neither Carson or Trump will win the nomination.

Found your magic 8 ball I see. :rolleyes:

[04 Venom]

Care to expound on that one? Because if Rubio or Kasich get it, you might as well become citizens of Mexico. Hillary will Win and make being white, Christian, heterosexual, or gun owners illegal and deportable.

Trump and Carson struck a chord because they didn't act or speak like a politician. Also, with the actual election being a year away many people have tuned out the endless, daily barrage of political gossip. Trump is beginning to fade and the same will happen to Carson; they both have made some outlandish statements that generate controversy and attention, but that won't win nominations or elections. If that was the case, Rick Santorum would have won the nomination in 2012, rather than Mitt Romney.

If I had to guess who the eventual nominee will be right now, it would be Rubio. I would also predict he would lose to Clinton in the general election. Aside from the advantage the Democrats have in the electoral college math, the Republican nominee has to bend so far to the right to win the nomination that it hampers their chances in the general election. Again, Romney was attacked, successfully, for statements he made during the primary campaign.

I see a Clinton win, unless the turnout is significantly less than 2008 and 2012.

Don't kill the messenger.

[04 Venom]

Found your magic 8 ball I see. :rolleyes:

If you will recall, I damn near picked the exact electoral college total for each candidate in the 2008 election a week before the voting. Everyone here was predicting a win by McCain. I don't let my personal preferences cloud my judgment. Same for 2012.

Here's another prediction, there is probably a 40-50% chance the Republicans will lose the Senate if the Democratic nominee wins. The 2016 election will have a disproportionate number of Republican seats up for re-election, just was the case for the Democrats in 2014. A large turnout in 2016 might tip the Senate to the Democrats. The Republicans will retain a solid majority in the House

[vertigo]

Trump and Carson struck a chord because they didn't act or speak like a politician. Also, with the actual election being a year away many people have tuned out the endless, daily barrage of political gossip. Trump is beginning to fade and the same will happen to Carson; they both have made some outlandish statements that generate controversy and attention, but that won't win nominations or elections. If that was the case, Rick Santorum would have won the nomination in 2012, rather than Mitt Romney.

If I had to guess who the eventual nominee will be right now, it would be Rubio. I would also predict he would lose to Clinton in the general election. Aside from the advantage the Democrats have in the electoral college math, the Republican nominee has to bend so far to the right to win the nomination that it hampers their chances in the general election. Again, Romney was attacked, successfully, for statements he made during the primary campaign.

I see a Clinton win, unless the turnout is significantly less than 2008 and 2012.

Don't kill the messenger.

That was so well thought out, and articulated, I think I'll concede your points. With that being said, most people didn't vote for Rick Santorum because they actually googled "Santorum." If you've not done that, I'll wait. You're welcome.

[SN95N/A]

Lmao

[04 Venom]

That was so well thought out, and articulated, I think I'll concede your points. With that being said, most people didn't vote for Rick Santorum because they actually googled "Santorum." If you've not done that, I'll wait. You're welcome.

I think I would change my last name if I were him. :eek:

[vertigo]

Isn't that delightfully disgusting?!?

[04 Venom]

Isn't that delightfully disgusting?!?

Indeed.

[vertigo]

By the way, what are you doing in Tallahassee? Is Bullwinkle's still open?

[Goldenpony]

I sincerely hope you are wrong. This is our last chance to turn things around. If your prediction is accurate, we have lost our country. USA, RIP.

[04 Venom]

By the way, what are you doing in Tallahassee? Is Bullwinkle's still open?

We moved here after I retired. Bullwinkles is still going strong.

[04 Venom]

I sincerely hope you are wrong. This is our last chance to turn things around. If your prediction is accurate, we have lost our country. USA, RIP.

Even if I am right, there is no reason to lose hope. Any president is constrained by external events and Congress. I have been following presidential elections since 1960 and I haven't seen a "last chance" election yet. Don't be discouraged.

To my mind, the greatest threat to responsive government is MONEY. Unfortunately, the Republican Party bears considerable blame for opening the floodgates of money. Mitch McConnell backed by the RNC filed suit to remove even the weak limit on campaign contributions. The Supreme Court's decision in the Citizens United was a shocking partisan decision and easily the worst in the last 100 years. Not only did it conflict with prior Supreme Court decisions, it equated unlimited contributions to political campaigns as an exercise in free speech. Total bullshit.

Corporations and labor unions are free to spend unlimited funds on political campaigns and individuals can contribute unlimited sums to PACs and do so anonymously. Billionaires can now fund their personal candidates, as was the case with Newt Gingrich in 2012. If cash is truly free expression under the Supreme Court's decision, the implication is that a billionaire has more "free speech" under the Constitution than you or I do. Seem right to you?

[vertigo]

We moved here after I retired. Bullwinkles is still going strong.

About 2000 I was banging a sorority girl there, and remember walking in there, and swimming in 2 fountains that were full of laundry soap....

[04 Venom]

About 2000 I was banging a sorority girl there, and remember walking in there, and swimming in 2 fountains that were full of laundry soap....

I lived in Tallahassee for nearly 5 years during the 70s while I was going to graduate school. Always wanted to move back when I retired.

Still lots of sorority girls here as well.

[vertigo]

Spent the weekend there, and by Sunday all I could do was curl up on the couch and watch a catdog marathon. Hence my interest in politics. Some days I think that's all my tax dollars fund are sorority girls and catdog.

[redfirepearlgt]

I lived in Tallahassee for nearly 5 years during the 70s while I was going to graduate school. Always wanted to move back when I retired.

Still lots of sorority girls here as well.

explains the Corvette fetish. LOL!

[04 Venom]

explains the Corvette fetish. LOL!

Geez, have a little sympathy for an old man. :)