Street Racers of Today

[Kwik92GT]

Y'all are SOFT AS FUCK. :flipoff: :lol:

Was talking to an old street racing friend of mine and we got to talking about street racing, etc., and how much different the "game" is now. It's sad really. Now, this will probably be hard for a lot of you so-called street racers of today to understand, but there was a time when the only "negotiating" done, was where and for [u]how much[u/]. Now everyone stands around for hours bitching/crying with their hands out like a bunch of bums, and still rarely get anything off.

Run what ya brung and hope you brought enough. It's a crazy concept but it works. It actually strengthens the breed so to speak. I hear things like "well, you just don't want a fair/close race" or whatever. Your right, I don't. I want to bury your fucking ass. I want to put ship lengths on you. I want to embarrass you so bad you think very long and hard about running me EVER again. I mean, I see these guys getting car lengths, "the break", and so on, and if they actually get lucky enough to still win the race, talk shit about how bad/fast they are and how they just kicked your ass. WTF? LOL Ummm, you were given the race, you didn't win shit, your crap box is still slow comparatively. That kind of shit just breeds mediocrity.

There's no real hierarchy anymore. Used to be you knew where you stood, and if you wanted to go up in rank, so to speak, you worked on your shit and then went looking for the guys above you to see where you stood. Asking for lengths or anything like that would get you laughed out of the fucking parking lot. You jokers wear that negotiating crap like a badge of honor anymore. :bangwall: Work on your shit and get in where you fit in. Quit "asking" for shit and go out and TAKE it.

I've read a couple of members post talking about the Dirty Dozen on here tonight, and how egos, or whatever, has basically made the Dozen a shell of its former self. It's a shell of what it used to be because you have let people believe that DD should stand for Daily Driver. :rolleyes: I remember when the original Dozen had actual RACE cars on it. Not the knuckle-draginng street cars you guys like to complain about being on the list, but actual class/race cars. You want to get rid of all the BS on the Dozen? Get rid of the chicken shit. Require a legit license/registration, insurance if you want, figure out what a participating member is (often has less to do with post count and more to do with how they help fellow members, etc.) and then let the cards lay where they may. I don't care if someone has run their car once or a hundred times. All these break rules and combo change rules, etc. have done nothing but weaken the Dozen. It's not about going out there and just beating the ever loving hell out of your shit and hoping you have a good spot as it should be. It's about finding a way to keep people off the list anymore. Reward those that are willing to let it all hang out, not being mediocre. If someone posts a legit time, that's what it is. I don't care what they do the rest of the year, short of no longer owning said car, their spot is their spot, until someone quicker overtakes them. Sounds crazy I know. :screwy:

Is it spring yet? :mad: ;)

[Blowpastyou]

I want on the dozen. Hopefully it stays in the 10's maybe I can make it... Midnight Mafia TTFMF!

[evil8]

Bring your junk out Gregory and I will gladly break that back.

[devous1]

I think it goes back to a social change. I'm older and out of "the scene" so I may be wrong about this, but these are my personal obsevations. When I was young, I grew up in a little town up north Attica. On Wed, Fri, and Sat nights we did this thing called cruising. Yea that's right it existed, just like on American Graffiti. It was awesome, (shouldn't say this but it was a different time) you and a few of your buds would get some beers get in the car and hit the strip.

There were two reasons to cruise, one to show your ride and b to find chicks. Belive it or not there were tons of chicks out there as well, this was sort of a dating service without going into a bar. Back then there was very little parking and talking/negotiaing. If you wanted to race you just headed out of town to a back two lane and did it. Either for money or bragging rights. We didn't know what a length was. Of course in Bucyrus and Tiffin there were few serious cars. I was 16 and had a brand new 78 Kaw Z1R, there weren't any cars and not many bikes that could touch it.

Then I went into the military and moved to So Cal, fucking WOW. This was the Meca of high po. Riverside/Van Nuys etc it was just incredible. This is the early 80s and this is about the time the law is cracking down on cruising and putting up road blocks etc. This pushed people off the main drag to warehouse parking lots and back roads. The whole scene moved to one that was fluid and moving (no talk) to one that was parked (nothing but BS). I was hitting Riverside heavy in the early 80s it was incredible the main street was plugged nonstop all night and there was a 4 lane outside of town with a large gravel parking lot. People would trailer bikes and cars out there it was like a dark midnight drag strip with burn barrells and bbqs. And I can't remember ever seeing the cops out there as long as we were out of town. I think this is where all the BS began. Even then it was run what you brung, there was a pecking order and you knew where you stood. If you wanted to talk shit, you better have the cash to back it up because these guys didn't run it for fun.:cool1:

[heatmup]

Amen brother! I'm an eighties kid too and can remember cruising as it used to be and street racing was fun not combative. The cars were slower for sure, fuel injection was an undesireable factory option on most cars. Back when we couldn't afford a brand new Mustang LX at $12,000 sticker. When double pumpers and dual point distributers and cherry bombs were performance parts. Remember?

Remember when the loser of the game didn't get a trophy, bullying was part of life and not social topic for examination, and to stop it you beat the SOB's ass. Remember when you screwed up at school and the teacher took you to the hallway and paddled you, then you went back to work and life went on. No counseling, no note home to parents discussing your mental state and recommendation for therapy.

What we have now is a culture/society problem. It has penetrated evey facit of our society including our hobby. I'm with Kwick, we are soft as fuck. My shit is slow but I'm not whining, it'll get there; but I'm not gonna talk shit, I know my place. I celebrate the success of others. I like to go to the strip and see fast cars, talk to the owners and see what is working. AND, I appreciate when other guys look at my car and offer advice to me as well.

So whatcha gonna do then? I don't post much but I couldn't resist this time. Yeah, we need an attitude adjustment for sure. I'll see you out there when I get the car off the jacks and look forward to the change.

[bkstang95]

I remember back in the day you could go get a Chevelle right off the showroom floor and take it to the track and run 9's...Thos were the days! :rolleyes:

[k062693w]

And then along came the LS1 !!! And it's been downhill since ...

[1byafender]

I remember back in the day you could go get a Chevelle right off the showroom floor and take it to the track and run 9's...Thos were the days! :rolleyes:

yeah and jump 16ounce pop bottles

[GREAZY]

yeah and jump 16ounce pop bottles

Dont forget about the $100 bill off the dash trick :lol:

[GREAZY]

I remember back in the day you could go get a Chevelle right off the showroom floor and take it to the track and run 9's...Thos were the days! :rolleyes:

I am calling BS on this...you have to install a 3/4 cam first.

[bkstang95]

True story! I wouldn't bullshit you! ha

[Maximus]

When was the last time a Midnight Mafia member has actually raced a car, track or street? --Not being a dick as I havent raced my own car in ?? years--:(

[evil8]

Flyin2jz makes appearances @ KK from time to time.

[Maximus]

Flyin2jz makes appearances @ KK from time to time.

Maybe one day the rest of them can join him. :bigthumb

[evil8]

Maybe one day the rest of them can join him. :bigthumb

That's not happening. Those guys are old!

[Maximus]

That's not happening. Those guys are old!

Im sure Old has nothing to do with it. I see posts from them with some cool weapons, so I would think they just changed hobbies.:AR15:

[Whyucryn]

I'm pretty sure we put Chad393 in retirement after the last headlock me and Craig put him in on 73 4-5 years ago, lol.

[chad393na]

I'm pretty sure we put Chad393 in retirement after the last headlock me and Craig put him in on 73 4-5 years ago, lol.

I needed to learn how to count better! or faster! lol

[chad393na]

When was the last time a Midnight Mafia member has actually raced a car, track or street? --Not being a dick as I havent raced my own car in ?? years--:(

I am at the track pretty consistently all season, and I proudly display my mafia sticker in the back window!! Hell, i am one of the oldest members and I still race!!

[Maximus]

I needed to learn how to count better! or faster!

Let me guess, you actually waited for "3"?? :lol:

[Blowpastyou]

Chad beats his bioch like Ike beat Tina... True story, and when Hornseby shows up... Everyone

[chad393na]

Yea, honest rookie mistake:D 1......2..go!

[Blowpastyou]

^ everyone counts how many different spark plug wires he has, then we all sit back and watch Ol nelly lay it down..

[Whyucryn]

I needed to learn how to count better! or faster! lol

You can thank your good buddy Doug for that, lol. It was still fun regardless! :bigthumb

[Whyucryn]

^ everyone counts how many different spark plug wires he has, then we all sit back and watch Ol nelly lay it down..

Ask Ole Nelly if she wants to come back to Middletown for some good racing!! Tell them there's a guy around here with a stock red transam looking for a good race! :lol:

[chad393na]

You can thank your good buddy Doug for that, lol. It was still fun regardless! :bigthumb

Yes it was!!!:bigthumb

[flyin2jz]

No more Middletown trans ams for for me. I'm old now and can't deal. I think alot of us older guys get into other stuff or just lose interest in going faster. The only place for me to go at this point is real fast and as the guys who know me will attest that's not what I want. I have zero interest in going low 9s. It would take big money to put a blower on my car because everything would need changed. I've already spent money I don't have in putting nelly together. The addition of 8200rpms made me go to a gforce dog ringed t5 which makes for tough driving on the street. I used the all different color autozone wires as a smoke screen for those that don't know me. Lol

[devous1]

I can't speak for anyone else, but as an "older" enthusiast, it's not so much that I'm slowing down. I'm just in a different place financially and I have a shit ton more responsibility. If I was to get hit for street racing I'd loose my CDL, for me that means I loose my job, which means my business would probably shut down. Even if I could financially recover from that and manage to keep my house and cars. I would have a tough time going back to work because I still need a reasonably clean license to drive a company vehicle.

Which inevitably would probably lead to a divorce. Getting old sucks.

I still love to go fast, speaking of which has anyone been to the Ohio Mile in Willmington yet?

[Kwik92GT]

I want on the dozen. Hopefully it stays in the 10's maybe I can make it... Midnight Mafia TTFMF!

Yeah, but you don't have a street car. :D

[Kwik92GT]

Bring your junk out Gregory and I will gladly break that back.

Hell Boy???

[Whyucryn]

Greg get your car done this year and get ya a dose of my little 306!!! We can do it at kilkare.... Mine isn't done yet either so we both have time to get them done. LETS GET IT!!!!!

[evil8]

Hell Boy???

You know that's right.

[Kwik92GT]

When was the last time a Midnight Mafia member has actually raced a car, track or street? --Not being a dick as I havent raced my own car in ?? years--:(

Chad, Kevin, and Mark have had to hold it down for the Mafia for several years now. :bigthumb I'm guessing there will be at least one more out this year considering how close the car is to being done. I'm at the track often but as you know, it definitely ain't because I'm driving/running my shit. A couple of us have had a big shift in priorities and interests. Comes with age I guess.

[Kwik92GT]

Greg get your car done this year and get ya a dose of my little 306!!! We can do it at kilkare.... Mine isn't done yet either so we both have time to get them done. LETS GET IT!!!!!

Hell yes Rob! I'd be down for it, and don't give me that little 306 shit, I ain't buying it. :lol: Let me guess, it's bone stock? :bigthumb

[Kwik92GT]

You know that's right.

We running to the 1/16th? ;)

[Whyucryn]

Hell yes Rob! I'd be down for it, and don't give me that little 306 shit, I ain't buying it. :lol: Let me guess, it's bone stock? :bigthumb

I'm not even going to lie... It's not stock. It has gt40x aluminum heads, x cam, roller tip rockers, and a typhoon intake!! Can't forget my 100 dry shot either!!! Get some!!! :D

[Kwik92GT]

yeah and jump 16ounce pop bottles

Many more years ago than I care to admit, we had a local guy who decided he could do it and tried, '70s Nova, SBC on spray and a 4spd. After about his 5th "attempt" he promptly threw his shocks up thru the trunk floor. :lol: Funny shit. He never got close BTW.

[Kwik92GT]

I'm not even going to lie... It's not stock. It has gt40x aluminum heads, x cam, roller tip rockers, and a typhoon intake!! Can't forget my 100 dry shot either!!! Get some!!! :D

Well, since were being honest and all, I have to tell you, mine has shorty headers and aftermarket exhaust. :D

[evil8]

We running to the 1/16th? ;)

That is still buslengths on ya.

[ibstrokin]

This thread got a little off topic, and at the mafia's expense, but there is still a lot of truth. I got older, my priorities changed, and I got a lot more guns, and the same is true for many of us.

I agree with Greg's original post though, it seems action gave way to image.

[Kwik92GT]

I think it goes back to a social change. I'm older and out of "the scene" so I may be wrong about this, but these are my personal obsevations. When I was young, I grew up in a little town up north Attica. On Wed, Fri, and Sat nights we did this thing called cruising. Yea that's right it existed, just like on American Graffiti. It was awesome, (shouldn't say this but it was a different time) you and a few of your buds would get some beers get in the car and hit the strip.

There were two reasons to cruise, one to show your ride and b to find chicks. Belive it or not there were tons of chicks out there as well, this was sort of a dating service without going into a bar. Back then there was very little parking and talking/negotiaing. If you wanted to race you just headed out of town to a back two lane and did it. Either for money or bragging rights. We didn't know what a length was. Of course in Bucyrus and Tiffin there were few serious cars. I was 16 and had a brand new 78 Kaw Z1R, there weren't any cars and not many bikes that could touch it.

Then I went into the military and moved to So Cal, fucking WOW. This was the Meca of high po. Riverside/Van Nuys etc it was just incredible. This is the early 80s and this is about the time the law is cracking down on cruising and putting up road blocks etc. This pushed people off the main drag to warehouse parking lots and back roads. The whole scene moved to one that was fluid and moving (no talk) to one that was parked (nothing but BS). I was hitting Riverside heavy in the early 80s it was incredible the main street was plugged nonstop all night and there was a 4 lane outside of town with a large gravel parking lot. People would trailer bikes and cars out there it was like a dark midnight drag strip with burn barrells and bbqs. And I can't remember ever seeing the cops out there as long as we were out of town. I think this is where all the BS began. Even then it was run what you brung, there was a pecking order and you knew where you stood. If you wanted to talk shit, you better have the cash to back it up because these guys didn't run it for fun.:cool1:

:bigthumb To all of the above. I've tried explaining how the "scene" here in the Dayton area used to be and I find it hard to not sound like I'm full of shit. LOL Technology has made the fast cars of today waaay faster than what was fast back then for sure, but you can't match how much fun it was. Quickest guy around here back then ran mid 9s, next closest guy was probably mid to high 10s at best. My car ran 12.80s on my L60 Pro Tracs and I thought I was setting the world on fire. :lol: :D A lot of tight racing back then too. The best weekends though were always when guys would show up from out of town to run whoever they could line up against. There would be race after race until almost dawn. Good times. Cops for most part didn't do much besides make us move along to another parking lot or whatever every now and again. Try doing that shit now, ain't gonna happen. I think they still might pull it off in Middletown but not 100% sure.

[Kwik92GT]

That is still buslengths on ya.

True story. :D

[Kwik92GT]

This thread got a little off topic, and at the mafia's expense, but there is still a lot of truth. I got older, my priorities changed, and I got a lot more guns, and the same is true for many of us.

I agree with Greg's original post though, it seems action gave way to image.

Yeah, what Brian said, lets get this back on topic. You guys today are soft as frickin cotton candy! If you have to "ask" for anything, your doing it wrong!

[93hulk]

When was the last time a Midnight Mafia member has actually raced a car, track or street? --Not being a dick as I havent raced my own car in ?? years--:(

A few of us still do it. I think chad is the only SBZ member to be on the doz every year, Kevin gets screwed off the dozon every year and few of us still mess with our cars but not to the extent that we used too. Rick and Gregs cars are getting close. So we are still around.:bigthumb

[bennyboy]

i remember going to middletown to race but nobody wanted to race until about 3am or later

[NO SHOT]

So all I hear is blah blah blah street racing....Whos going to be ready to do some in a couple weeks???:coo1:

[devous1]

I'm pretty new to the site, I've only met one member face to face so I don't really know anyone here. Has anyone here ever been caught and prosecuted?

I was years ago in of all places Silver City, NM.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

I had some issues 4 years ago, which is why now im building my car for the track, and less for the street. Anytime I head out I have to watch all angles and be super careful cause id probably have to sell the car due to fines and have jail time if I have issues again

[devous1]

Yea, I was in the Corps. I got poped on a Sat night I think and had to sit in jail till Mon. Was UA for 3 days, bike was impounded had to have a friend from Pendleton go get it in his truck. I got in a shit ton of trouble and that was back in about 83.

I'm just curious what happens currently on a first offense.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

My buddy got caught "drag racing" as they call it, pulled over and was nice. Got some fines and reduced to "reckless opp". Not that big of a deal legal wise upon first offense, however, im sure where and what traffic conditions changes things

[RyanR]

All i know is i street raced all year last year and no one around here would do anything, the only street racing goes on is not around here everyone is scared of their own shadow, and before it is asked when i get my junk back togeher in a couple months come one come all!!!!!!!

[NO SHOT]

All i know is i street raced all year last year and no one around here would do anything, the only street racing goes on is not around here everyone is scared of their own shadow, and before it is asked when i get my junk back togeher in a couple months come one come all!!!!!!!

Sweet are you getting back in the game??? I thought you just ran on Scottys crew last year?Or is that what you were saying.Man he got down last year huh!!

[Whyucryn]

Scotty is BANNED! Lol

[flyin2jz]

It's not about being scared of street racing. It's about not being able to feed your family possibly if u get caught. Ill still let ole nelly eat from time to time if I get some young punk feeling a little froggy. Nothing better than ripping the paint off some young kid who thinks papaw won't race. Lol

[Whyucryn]

As long as it's not a red transam right? Lmao!!

[flyin2jz]

The red ta is my kriptonite and I don't talk much about it. Other than I made some good friends. Best money I ever lost. Lol

[flyin2jz]

That little red ta cost me alot of money in the end. Hehe

[mad max]

If i could go back in time to hillsboro when we cruised and street raced all the time , i would in a heartbeat . We owned that town , every friday and saturday night . The whole block nothing but mustangs and street racing was a blast . Sucks getting old.

[flyin2jz]

It does suck getting old. A nice 12.90 car was considered nasty back then. Now if u run in the 11s your car is slow. My wife's Cadillac runs 13.80s. It's a freaking SUV. I won alot of races with a 13s car. Lol.

[1_slo_92]

Johnson Road, Hillsboro/Lynchburg area was a hot area 6-7 years ago when I was big into it, I've heard the racing has calmed down since then from what I hear

[NO SHOT]

If i could go back in time to hillsboro when we cruised and street raced all the time , i would in a heartbeat . We owned that town , every friday and saturday night . The whole block nothing but mustangs and street racing was a blast . Sucks getting old.

I remember that going on..We got deep in them pockets SEVERAL times over there.We had a blast!!!:bigthumb

[RyanR]

I would love nothing more than some good street racing around here just don't think it will ever happen so il to where it does happen.

[Mista Bone]

Lets go old school.

Frisch's to Frisch's. Sharonville to Colerain, sorta Cannonball style before it was born, 275 wasn't even built yet.

[devous1]

Johnson Road, Hillsboro/Lynchburg area was a hot area 6-7 years ago when I was big into it, I've heard the racing has calmed down since then from what I hear

I was just down by Lynchburg working a few weeks ago. I've worked in Hillsboro as well. I must be missing something or it really comes alive at night

[akagreg3]

patty's run... stop sign to bridge is a 1/4 mile

[pegasus]

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