2011 mustang dyno king

[rmracing]

We had a new dyno king tonight , 2011 Mustang Street car and it put out 958 to the wheels . I had to post this as its pretty impressive to drive your street car to the dyno with power everything , put out 958 HP and drive back home . Makes me want to go buy one .

[chris91]

:postpix: Or a video, take your pick. :bigthumb

[rmracing]

Maybe he will post some when he gets on here , the only vid i got was on my phone which is useless also .

[mustangrfast88]

so who is this guy

[plated]

beefcake boy his head is gonna swell:lol:

[beefcake]

Last time on the dyno, we made 709 rwhp. We never redyno'd after putting the Boss 302 intake back on the car.

We attempted to dyno at the KOTs competition but unfortunately a traction control issue kept us from getting accurate numbers. At that time, I would have put the car around the 750 rwhp range.

Over the winter, we did a couple things.

First, we switched the car from Draw thru to a Blow thru setup. While doing this we increased the size of the tubing exiting the intercooler from 3" to 3 1/2" all the way up.

By adding a UPR tubular radiator support, we were able to custom bend the tubing to allow for a 13 1/2" straight tube vs the 9" tube that comes from Vortech / Paxton. This allows for almost 7" of straight pipe to clear up the air signal vs about 4 to 4 1/2" in the standard kit.

We ran vp ms109 oxygenated unleaded all last year. For the cooling / hp effect, (not to mention cost), we swapped the car over to e85.

I have been driving to my local krogers, filling up the car at the pump ($2.75 a gallon), and driving home. I tested the local winter blend, and it is hovering right about 75% ethanol. So, e75. Means we are actually running a little rich right now and robbing some power, lol.

We also added the injector dynamics ID 1000's to allow for the increased flow needed for the e85.

Tonight I was hoping to break the 800rwhp mark. Jon lund sent me a dyno lock tune, we loaded it, made a pull to 5500. Everything looked good. (especailly the fact we were up 43 rwhp at that point already).

Made a pull to about 6900 and the car was sitting at 870 rwhp w/ 21 degrees of timing.

I emailed Jon the logs, and he sent me back a new file. We upped the base f/p and pulled the air filter and tube off. Made another pull, and the car made 916 rwhp and 697 ft/lbs. Timing was only 19.5 degrees though.

Jon emailed me another file, made one more pull. Timing was back in the car and it jumped to 960 rwhp, and 716 ft/lbs of torque!

The biggest thing, when you look at the dyno sheet. It looks like we are getting just a tad bit of belt slip at the top, and when we let off the car at 7500, it's still pulling up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am still grinning from ear to ear!

I don't think I've seen a higher dyno out of a factory auto car with a single power adder. Matter of fact, I don't think i've seen a higher dyno out of a factory auto car with dual power adders!

The car has no meth injection, no nitrous, nothing other than the Vortech JT trim blower and air to air intercooler.

I drove the car to work today, then to the dyno, then out to eat, then home. The drivability in the car is perfect. You would never guess the car is making nearly 1000 rwhp...

I can't wait to get the 8 rib setup on (yes, this is on the factory 6 rib setup) and get some true e85 in the car.

Now I can't wait to get to Bradenton and see how the car does going down the 1/4 mile.

Here is the dyno video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nccaM3Ni2E4

and the dyno sheet.

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/dyno960.jpg

[mustangrfast88]

awesome numbers man cant wait to see it run this summmer

[bangingears]

holy hell, big numbers!

[Pops Fun]

Great numbers... Now hook it up!!

[NO SHOT]

Be cool to see what those number pan out to at the track!!!!:bigthumb

[furiouslyfaster]

Happy for ya man. That's more horsepower than all the cars I have ever owned combined lol.

[05yellowgt]

How much timing did the 960 pull have?

[mad max]

Man thats a whole lotta hp for a street car, cant wait to see it at the strip.

[700hp04mystic]

GREAT NUMBERS AND VIDS, BUT THE MUSIC WAS KINDA LIKE 70'S PORN. LOL. GOOD JOB

[Brandon Alsept]

How much timing did the 960 pull have?


more than 15 and less than 30 :bigthumb

[2Fast4You]

That is awesome Beef, keep on it.

[setty2706]

Wow... very impressive.

960 at the wheels...hhhhhmmmm how much you think is at the flywheel..?

[mf959100GT]

Couldn't imagine having that much power on the street...would be bad if I was on the line at a red light...AMAZING :big thumb

[beefcake]

typical drivetrain loss on an auto is considered to be 20% 15% for manuals.

that would be 1202 / 897

once we get the belt slip worked out should be really nice!

hopped in the car this morning, drove it from amelia to over off blue rock, drives perfect! ;)

[mf959100GT]

Haha I bet man, seen the one video of you at the dragstrip, pulling the front wheels off the ground...be hard not to do that every where lol

[05yellowgt]

more than 15 and less than 30 :bigthumb
I know its apples and oranges but I ran 24 degrees with 27psi of boost on my car. It was only about 9.3 compression though. E85 is the shisnizz.

[beefcake]

I know its apples and oranges but I ran 24 degrees with 27psi of boost on my car. It was only about 9.3 compression though. E85 is the shisnizz.

23 degrees is what we had

[JIMS SVT]

typical drivetrain loss on an auto is considered to be 20% 15% for manuals.

that would be 1202 / 897

once we get the belt slip worked out should be really nice!

hopped in the car this morning, drove it from amelia to over off blue rock, drives perfect! ;)

I think you used like 25% on your adding.

[denial]

I think you used like 25% on your adding.


does it really matter? lol

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I think you used like 25% on your adding.

At 20% drivetrain loss for an auto, it comes out to 1149.6hp and 859.2tq.

[JIMS SVT]

does it really matter? lol

He said 20% for a auto not 25%. :cool2:

[beefcake]

i guess i don't know how you guys add

960/.8=1202

1202*.8=960

1202*.2=240.4

1202-240.4=961.6

[beefcake]

At 20% drivetrain loss for an auto, it comes out to 1149.6hp and 859.2tq.


He said 20% for a auto not 25%. :cool2:

Let me break it down more, as i've already been somewhat called out for my math.

You guys are doing your math incorrectly. You are taking 20% of the number that is the answer. Let me explain.

If we have 2 engines on an engine dyno. And they both make exactly 1000 HP.

One is going in a stick car and one is going in an automatic car. With a 15% loss in the stick car you would expect the car to make 850rwhp. Why, because 15% of 1000 is 150. 1000-150=850.

The one going in the auto car, you would expect to make 800rwhp. Why, because 20% of 1000 is 200. 1000-200=800.

If you took 15% of the 850, that is 127.5. That would be 977.50 at the crank.

If you take 20% of the 800, that is 160. That would be 960 at the crank.

That is probably the easiest way to show the flaw in the math. By your math, you get 2 completely different engine dyno numbers. You are taking the answer and muliplying.

960*1.2=X (1152)

960 is the answer. So the math problem would be X * .8= 960

So, looking at a car on an engine dyno. Laying out 1200 hp, put in an auto car losing 20%. 1200x.2=240. 1200-240=960.

[JIMS SVT]

So when you put 960 into a calculator and add 20% and it gives you 1152 is wrong?

[plated]

seen you in milford this morning, i was looking for some coyote for breakfast,had to settle for mc donalds and a yellow zo6 :popcorn: wanna go from a roll

[beefcake]

So when you put 960 into a calculator and add 20% and it gives you 1152 is wrong?

No, if you add 20% of 960 to 960 that is 1152. But, again, 960 is the answer.

If you put an engine on an engine dyno which is the true power a vehicle makes, and it makes 1152 hp.

If it is going to lose 20% through the drivetrain, how much is that?

1152 * 20% = 230.4

1152-230.4= what?

921.6 is what it equals.

The automaic drivetrain eats 20% of the engines power. The engines, not the rwhp.

The engine is your starting point.

960 is 16.7 % 1152. not 20% You are "losing 20%" through the drivetrain. to get the rwhp number.

So, take your calculator and take 1200 times 20%, and then subtract that, or to make it simpler, multiply it by .8 and tell me what your calculator says.

[jktruckin06]

I know where the equation is flawed... his HP is 3x+... three times more HP than I have plus some more...

[jktruckin06]

Oh but the real answer if beefs car is an auto would be 1197.5 at the flywheel.

Take 958 and divide by 4... you do this because 958 is only 4/5 of the number you are looking for.

That makes 239.5 which is the hypothetical loss through an automatic at 20%...

So 958+239.5= 1197.5 HP at the flywheel... which also = flippin fast...

[beefcake]

I know where the equation is flawed... his HP is 3x+... three times more HP than I have plus some more...

lmao,

Here is another way that may be easier for those that aren't the best with numbers, (not a jab, just some aren't)

If you bought a big plasma tv at 20% off, and the price is $960. What was the original sale price?

$1200

[beefcake]

Oh but the real answer if beefs car is an auto would be 1197.5 at the flywheel.

Take 958 and divide by 4... you do this because 958 is only 4/5 of the number you are looking for.

That makes 239.5 which is the hypothetical loss through an automatic at 20%...

So 958+239.5= 1197.5 HP at the flywheel... which also = flippin fast...

Exactly, or to make it easier, you take the 958*.8, quicker math.

[jktruckin06]

That gives you 766.4... ÷.8 gives you the 1197.5... this reminds me how much I hated high school

[jktruckin06]

What else you gonna do to get 1000 at the wheels, I'm sure that's the new goal. Also what are your torque numbers on that thing?

[90stang]

Exactly, or to make it easier, you take the 958*.8, quicker math.

Did i see this car in this months Mustang mag??? :confused: Sweet Ride either way

[beefcake]

Did i see this car in this months Mustang mag??? :confused: Sweet Ride either way

yes, we did a 4 page cam install with finish line in the 5.0 mustang magazine

april issue, i'll do scans once the may issue is out

[2Kblacksleeper]

It's out now. I bought one on Monday.

[beefcake]

It's out now. I bought one on Monday.

yep, the KOT's is already starting to arrive to some people, not supposed to be out for 2 weeks.

I heard I got an amazing last place..

[2Kblacksleeper]

I ment the cam install article.

[beefcake]

I ment the cam install article.

i know, i just got mine like a week ago, and then someone told me they had the kots issue already

[denial]

I read the article online. Thats pretty cool to see that done to a local guy. That's crazy power for that car. To be able to drive it daily and have a 1000 hp is insane. Some people on here give Terry shit for just about anything, but that's mostly jealousy or they don't have anything else to do with their life other than bitch.

I say congrats to Terry and Finish Line Performance for doing such a hell of a job on one badass car. Good luck racing this year Terry. Have fun and be safe.

[k062693w]

I read the article online. Thats pretty cool to see that done to a local guy. That's crazy power for that car. To be able to drive it daily and have a 1000 hp is insane. Some people on here give Terry shit for just about anything, but that's mostly jealousy or they don't have anything else to do with their life other than bitch.

I say congrats to Terry and Finish Line Performance for doing such a hell of a job on one badass car. Good luck racing this year Terry. Have fun and be safe.

X1000000000 Jealous Beeyotches ...

[beefcake]

I"m not going there,

All I was doing was doing was correcting the math.

One thing i'm good at is numbers.

[thecollector]

I realized the math was solid, but I still choose to be jealous;)

Nice car Terry. Unfortunately I lost 20 on the "when will beef flip it" pool. :(

[beefcake]

I realized the math was solid, but I still choose to be jealous;)

Nice car Terry. Unfortunately I lost 20 on the "when will beef flip it" pool. :(

lol, june will be 2 years on the car, hard to believe

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Let me break it down more, as i've already been somewhat called out for my math.

You guys are doing your math incorrectly. You are taking 20% of the number that is the answer. Let me explain.

If we have 2 engines on an engine dyno. And they both make exactly 1000 HP.

One is going in a stick car and one is going in an automatic car. With a 15% loss in the stick car you would expect the car to make 850rwhp. Why, because 15% of 1000 is 150. 1000-150=850.

The one going in the auto car, you would expect to make 800rwhp. Why, because 20% of 1000 is 200. 1000-200=800.

If you took 15% of the 850, that is 127.5. That would be 977.50 at the crank.

If you take 20% of the 800, that is 160. That would be 960 at the crank.

That is probably the easiest way to show the flaw in the math. By your math, you get 2 completely different engine dyno numbers. You are taking the answer and muliplying.

960*1.2=X (1152)

960 is the answer. So the math problem would be X * .8= 960

So, looking at a car on an engine dyno. Laying out 1200 hp, put in an auto car losing 20%. 1200x.2=240. 1200-240=960.


Yeah that makes sense...i never thought of it like that. That's how i've always been told to do the math so it never occurred to me. It's a little hard to believe though because that means my little 347 is making ~480ish horsepower at the crank, which i find really hard to believe. Although, i am running a 5 speed and not an auto, but i divided by .75 instead of .85 and still got 482.6. It's a little easier to believe at .8 with it being 452hp, but damn that's still losing a shit ton of power through the drivetrain which i just find hard to believe....that's 90hp lost. My car runs pretty strong but i don't think it's making that kind of power. My flawed math of 362x.15=54.3+362=416.3 seems a lot more realistic to me.

[beefcake]

Yeah that makes sense...i never thought of it like that. That's how i've always been told to do the math so it never occurred to me. It's a little hard to believe though because that means my little 347 is making ~480ish horsepower at the crank, which i find really hard to believe. Although, i am running a 5 speed and not an auto, but i divided by .75 instead of .85 and still got 482.6. It's a little easier to believe at .8 with it being 452hp, but damn that's still losing a shit ton of power through the drivetrain which i just find hard to believe....that's 90hp lost. My car runs pretty strong but i don't think it's making that kind of power. My flawed math of 362x.15=54.3+362=416.3 seems a lot more realistic to me.

362/.85 is what your math should be 425.88

so, your 416 isn't way off

15% from a manual trans

[Drivermod]

Beefcake! Car salesman and math teacher. What can't you do. :D Nice job with the car. I can only imagine how much fun a 900+rwhp street car would be.

[beefcake]

Beefcake! Car salesman and math teacher. What can't you do. :D Nice job with the car. I can only imagine how much fun a 900+rwhp street car would be.

Can't wait to run her, hopefully be making some 1/8 mile testing passes tomorrow