92 gt gould mustang getting a lift

[cyah92]

I decided the gould mustang needed a little more power. I did alot of research and just couldn't find the right way to turn. I always wanted a ten second car but new it will not b cheap or easy. Well i came in like and found somebody to buy the awsome 347 built by mike at dayton performance. The guy came today and pick it up.

[Rick93coupe]

Excuse me, I speak jive.

[cyah92]

Just didnt finish the paragragh yet for people like u i sold the motor out off my car so i can move on and buy the 393engine of off mike at dayton performance. Was that to hard 4 u

[Kwik92GT]

Wow, way to make the new guy feel welcome! lol. I think what he meant was that he sold the engine out of his car that I had built for my convertible way back when, and now he's putting something bigger and badder into it. Hope my translation was correct.

Ahhhhh, OK, thanks for the translation. :bigthumb

To the OP, what are the actual plans for this? Big inch Windsor, big block? Give out some more details, and remember:

:postpix:

[Kwik92GT]

Just didnt finish the paragragh yet for people like u i sold the motor out off my car so i can move on and buy the 393engine of off mike at dayton performance. Was that to hard 4 u

Got it! :bigthumb

[Rick93coupe]

Congrats should be fun. Just really hard to figure out what you were saying. That and I've never heard an engine swap called a lift.

[TurboNG]

If it pulls the wheels then u gave the stand a lift... lifting the front wheels.... LOL

[setty2706]

Glad your making progress.... I was happy to hear that your keeping the gould car alive and making it even more of a beast... Good luck with it all man

[cyah92]

Happily to say i pick my 393w up yesterday from mike. Cant wait too put it in too c what it will do. Got along way to go on this project got to get a new drivetrain and a better rearend. I will get picks when i gwt around a computer. The wngine is pushing in the 460s hp at the wheel and 480s tourqe at the wheel.

[cyah92]

Its been a couple of weeks since i posted but finally got the exaust system off of mike that was on barny. Dont have pictures yet only have my phone so when i get to a computer u will just have to wait

[Qtr milerocket]

It was good meeting you and 2Fast4You yesterday, 'ole Barney's motor is definitely capable of getting you into the 10's. Good luck with your project.



Peace :cool2:





James

[NXcoupe]

Thanks again. I can't wait to see this engine back in action again. I know there's more in it and it will fly when you get the car setup for it.

[2Fast4You]

[QUOTE=Qtr milerocket;697713]It was good meeting you and 2Fast4You yesterday, 'ole Barney's motor is definitely capable of getting you into the 10's. Good luck with your project.


Nice to meet you as well, I can't wait to get this set up in the Gould Mustang as well. I have a couple tricks up my sleeve for this.

[cyah92]

Nice meeting u to james hope to c u around.. and thanks mike for hooking me up with the good deals.. but for now i think im going to put my car back together to get it tune right so i can atleast put it around town untill i can get the funds to buy me a tranny, set my suspension up, and get a better rearend put together

[NXcoupe]

Sounds like a plan..

[331lx]

When is this dude gonna b done

[cyah92]

It mainly depends on parts being sold and money comeing for upgraded parts but hopefully by spring.

[cyah92]

Its been awhile since I post anything. I speek in jives so I will try to spit it out as good as I can. Lol. I decided to upgrade the cam from a hydraulic to a solid roller cam in the 393w. Took my heads to the shop to get the new springs put on and came to some problems. Found two exaust valves that were bent and the valves never had a valve job done to them. Its been along road fixing all the problems but almost done. Going to go ahead and put new bearings in it just to b safe.

[dsmawd350]

wow........

[cyah92]

I know I have'nt got any pictures yet but I keep coming into bad luck with this damn engine. Luckily I decided to put new bearings to freshin it up. Pull all of the rod caps off and every bearing did,nt look to bad. Started on the mains and got to the last one and got a big groove about halfway in the bearing. Wtf. All this bs for an engine that's got 1500 miles on it damn. It looks like the crank bevels up right torwards the middle on one of the lobes. If it is'nt one thing or another. Need some help from the gods. Computer still down so pictures will b up soon.

[k062693w]

I know I have'nt got any pictures yet but I keep coming into bad luck with this damn engine. Luckily I decided to put new bearings to freshin it up. Pull all of the rod caps off and every bearing did,nt look to bad. Started on the mains and got to the last one and got a big groove about halfway in the bearing. Wtf. All this bs for an engine that's got 1500 miles on it damn. It looks like the crank bevels up right torwards the middle on one of the lobes. If it is'nt one thing or another. Need some help from the gods. Computer still down so pictures will b up soon.

Good Luck ... It Sucks you ran into problems ...

[2Fast4You]

I am glad we decided to freshen this up, this would have been a blown motor if we did not.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

correct me if im wrong, but you bought a 1500 mile 393w from Mike. Pulled the heads off and it had two bent valves, went deeper in and found it had a bad bearing? Did you know the motor had issues when you bought it?

[cyah92]

No I didn't. He started it up right in front of me. Sound pretty good. I was told there was nothing wrong with it. Who ever built this engine didn't know what they were doing. Sad part that I'm the sucker Who bought it.

[cyah92]

I'm just hoping the crank is not junk. Time will tell.

[cyah92]

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[cyah92]

heres my beast with no engine and no tranny and no rearend. still trying to get the engine fix. rearend is getting some four lug moser 31 spline axles and a cobra differential after I get the tubes welded.

[motox159]

What you gonna do with the candycanes?

[cyah92]

eat them. lol wife is to lazy to put them upstairs. I don't blame her I was to.

[cyah92]

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[cyah92]

asking all thoughts about this main bearing.

[bbfstanger]

serious piece of garbage went thru it no doubt.
was there anything in the pan or filter?
hows the crank look, as bad?

[cyah92]

I never had this thing running in my possession so when I drain the oil I never had thoughts of checking it. haven't check the filter yet. u can see the hump in the crank but can feel it for sure. I got it down at the machine shop now so hopefully a good buffing and everything will be good. its been a ruff road for my first used engine that I have bought. this should b the last thing that gets done before I start putting it back together.

[2Fast4You]

its pretty crappy to spend all that money on an engine and still have to put a bunch of money into when u wasnt inspecting to. but your almost done brother as long as the crank comes out ok we will b ready to start puting it all back together.

[k062693w]

Did anyone ask Mike about it ??? Show him pics of damage, etc. ???

I would think he would/should do something ... JMO

[cyah92]

I already had words about parts mest up on this engine. he made it right on the lifters that was bad but wasn't happy about but came through. its been a year since I bought the engine. I just keep asking myself if its been to long since I bought it a year ago. I know its been awhile back but it has never been ran in my possession. I will have another 500 give or take in fixing the stuff that are wrong with this engine. I don't like being a dick but every time I take something else to see what else is wrong I find another problem. I never said anything to him because I don't think he would do anything else and im sure he has already seen the thread. if he wants to make it right so b it. if not I will take my lost and move on. all I can say is look deaper in while buying something from somebody.

[2Fast4You]

Look, we are not here to bash anyone. This is a build thread and with any project you run into things. Are we happy about all of the issues, no, but we learn and move on. There are other things with this engine that we have had to do as well. For instance, the heads also had to have (3) valve guides replaced, a complete valve job because non of the intake or exhaust valves would seat and while doing that we came a cross a cracked exhaust valve seat on top of everything else. The crank is at the machine shop now and waiting on the final cost of repair on it. Haven't performed a check on the block, rods and pistons yet but they are next and we will keep a list and cost of everything to put this back together correctly.

[TurboNG]

With anything Mechanical shit happens, brand new motors from every engine builder have had failures. I was there when Mike did the compression test on the motor and none of the valves were leaking compression. How well you know your machine shop? Sounds like an up sale for you to buy parts.
As far as the bearing goes, something got in there and cut the grove. That's not Mikes fault. And as far as him taking care of it I bet he would have been more willing if you hadn't already had someone else strip it down.
I know guys on here that have motors built by him 8yrs ago and still run strong.
I have prob the highest HP NA 347 in ohio or further that he built.
Sux you're having bad luck man I've been there. Hope things improve for you!
Just my 2 cents

[cyah92]

if u would check the threads right we didn't bring his name in it. like my brother said this is a build thread. I saw the problems when I took the stuff apart. don't know much about seating valves but I never heard of a valve seating by itself with any work being done to them. could be wrong but that's just an opinion. im not bashing mike. I just want to get past all this bs. I spent good money on this engine to have to tear it apart and fix it. that's just my opinion. got a question? what causes 2 valves to hit the pistons with a 1500 mile engine. I agree things happen. I don't want anything from mike I just want to get past this.

[TurboNG]

I know you didnt bash Mike, but the moment you seen something wrong i would have called him and seen what he thought. A valve hitting a piston can be caused by floating a valve or a stuck valve or improper clearance but with the later a motor wont last more than a pass or two before breaking.

[bbfstanger]

might want to have the springs checked for seat and open pressure.
mock up one of the problem cyl's and clay it,you need to find the cause before you go back together with it.
or have your machinist guy do it for you.

[cyah92]

I swap from a hydraulic cam to a solid cam so I have different springs. I will have everything check out by the machine shop. im just glad to swap cams out before anything else gotten worse. that's when I found the top of the lifters smash up. I agree something did go through the engine and I haven't found anything that would of cause the damage. any help what to look out for. I would hate to have this mistake again. till then still waiting on the results of the crank.

[cyah92]

I know you didnt bash Mike, but the moment you seen something wrong i would have called him and seen what he thought. A valve hitting a piston can be caused by floating a valve or a stuck valve or improper clearance but with the later a motor wont last more than a pass or two before breaking.

I did get ahold of him. he work with me on replacing the lifters. I decided to check everything out on my own and I caught the problem. I didn't call him this time is because its been a year since I bought the engine and felt it has been to long to bother him on the situation.

[cyah92]

got my crank back today. they end up getting everything buff out. hopefully all the bad luck is past me. im in a hurry to get this thing back together but theres still somethings I need a machine shop to do but my machine shop got very busy and is not going to have time to do it anytime soon. still need to set the cam and crank and get valve clearance. any body that knows anybody in the Cincinnati area I would appreciate it.

[cyah92]

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0051_zps4458eba9.jpg well all the little specs on this bearing is sand. this whole engine was cover in sand. I could c maybe a little sand but damn somebody brought the beach inside this thing. after a few hours of cleaning the block I think im finally finish.

[cyah92]

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0053_zpsfb8fa633.jpg I got bored just sitting around doing nothing. these were the pistons before I clean them. these were probably one of the hardest things I had to clean. e85 is some nasty stuff.

[cyah92]

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0054_zps5fb09364.jpg this is what they look like now.

[331lx]

R they new lol looks good man, my son needs sand for his sandbox u got any jk that's prolly where ur problem lyed was there

[bbfstanger]

cleaned up pretty good.
did all the pistons get hit?
it doesnt take much debri to ruin bearings and stuff.
what heads/valves are you using?

[draggin50]

Why is the piston on the right oriented backwards to the rest?

[draggin50]

Nevermind... I forgot the rods arent bolted to the crank!

[cyah92]

there was a lot of sand for sure. just two of them got hit. know damage done to the pistons. got some twisted wedge with a bunch of work done to them. for the springs not sure what brand they are. got them off my brother. he had them on a set of heads back in the day. maybe an hour or two run time on the springs.

[cyah92]

I was waiting for someone to wonder why all the pistons are all up.

[bbfstanger]

is that an inline vlv relief piston or are they tw?
oh i see it has both notches?

[TurboNG]

What did you do with the old heads im interested in them

[cyah92]

don't have them other heads any more.

[cyah92]

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0055_zps9af8594c.jpg shit keeps getting deeper. I thought these grooves were made into the pistons by manufactory. but the closer and more I keep looking at them I think some dumbass put the wrong pistons in for twisted wedge heads. just could b me though. need some input on these pistons from u engine builders. every piston is like this. im just tired of getting bent over its starting to hurt and pissing me off. thanks

[331lx]

Could b factory, but don't look like it

[bbfstanger]

that small notch does not look like a machine cut.
looks like ptv contact.
alot of guys run tw heads on inline or stock pistons,done it myself.
how big was the cam?

oh and damn thats a good closeup pic,i can never get them to turnout lol!

[cyah92]

it was an elgin cam with almost the same exact spects as a trick flow 3 cam. I think 574/595. the bad thing is im going bigger with a 610 solid roller. going with a 700+ down the road so heads got to go. costing me to much fixing somebody elses bs.

[bbfstanger]

without tw pistons anything approaching .550 lift must be checked !
flycut your pistons its not real hard to do.
my local guy charges 150 i think. the cutter to do it yourself is about the same.
did you fix your heads already? atleast with those you'd know theyre fresh rather than buying a used set.
just throwin out suggestions

[cyah92]

yeah the heads are done already. set up for solid roller plus all of the things that were bad cost me $485. stuck in a bad spot right now. eventually I need to go with a bigger head to get to the 700hp range. can these heads make it. im not for sure.

[dr59l]

Wat kind of fuel u plan on running?

[cyah92]

I will b going with e-85

[dr59l]

Gotcha I thought bout it w mine but getn it by drum would b my only logical choice. Not sure how much that is. This gonna b Carb? If so how big? I'm planning to go 393 soon y I ask

[cyah92]

it will b fuel injection. its getting easier to get e-85 around my house.

[cyah92]

theshttp://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0065_zps723ea1fd.jpge are my twisted wedge heads I jhttp://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0064_zps5aec643a.jpguhttp://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0063_zps3aec1bca.jpgst puthttp://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0058_zps4f6c470b.jpg 400 in to fix everything. http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0056_zps752c31c0.jpg

[cyah92]

400 dollars later I get all the bad things fix.

[dr59l]

Cute head stand LOL! Don't flame me saying it but how much will the scalloped valves compared to the non effect balance of compression an weight? Probably not but a 1cc nor less but just curious.

[cyah92]

not sure. hopefully it wont hurt me but those were the ones the were bent so im guessing the machine shop figure it wasn't a big deal. im new to this engine building stuff. just not sure if they couldn't get them old type of valves anymore. you probably know more than me.

[dr59l]

I don't think unless u spin it up to 7500 + it will matter just curious. They look good an it will probably have a ton low end around 3000 with ur set up in a 393. Good luck hope u have fun wen she's done

[cyah92]

thanks. I should b done probably in the next 2 months. got to wait in line at the machine shop now.

[dr59l]

Wats the latest? Anything new while waiting?

[cyah92]

Well my luck is finally getting a little better. Finally got my engine to the machine shop. They will fly cut the pistons and then finish putting the engine together. Plus I will be getting my tubes welded on the rearend.

[cyah92]

Did real good today. Save a little and and welded the tubes on my rearend.

[cyah92]

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[cyah92]

not the pretiest but when u weld maybe 2 to 3 times a year it will work. finally got the rear end back in place.

[cyah92]

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN0754_zpsf3587248.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/cyah92/media/DSCN0754_zpsf3587248.jpg.html) finally got my 3inch studs for my upgrade 31 spline moser axels. just got done putting them in and got everything bolted up and for the first time in about 6 months the tires are finally back on the ground.

[cyah92]

went up to the Columbus swap meet and came home with some goodies.

[cyah92]

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[cyah92]

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[cyah92]

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[cyah92]

I pick up a 4 inch Anderson pipe and a 90mm accufab throttle body. its amazing how much money it cost to go fast. but im almost done and should be done by summer. I almost forgot I also install my 4.30 gear.

[cyah92]

went to c if the machine shop started on my engine yet and know luck. got the typical next week bs. its starting to get real nice out and im starting to get very antsy waiting for my engine to get done. still need a couple of parts to finish this build but almost done. just hope the numbers are were I want them.

[blown96cobra]

I feel ur pain as far as the situation with the motor id like to air out what went down with my shit but honestly I like the guy too much to flame him on here but believe me I've been in your shoes before and it cost me biiiiiig time. Hang in there and keep plugging away at it. You'll get it done. On a more positive note I did watch mike tune barney with that motor and if memory serves it made closer to 480whp with ac, PS and all the other accesories with slicks on the car.

[cyah92]

I will hang in there and keep moving forward. if my engine gets done this week I plan on putting it in the car asap. I got the fever since I only drove it a few times in the 2 years I own it. just hoping the upgrades I did on the engine makes a difference and push me over the 500rwhp mark. we will see. thanks

[draggin50]

What did you do differently? I liked that car when I had it and drove the shit out of it.

[cyah92]

I put a 620 solid cam. Crank case evacuation kit. Went with a 90mm throttle body.

[cyah92]

well my luck still going to shit. not going to chance fly cutting the pistons and putting a hole in them. hopefully going to go with a dome piston to see if I can get around 13/1 compression or better. thanks to who built this engine because its costing me twice as much to fix the damn thing. till then getting prices on pistons. will have other ones for sell.

[draggin50]

Why cant you fly cut them?

[Rick93coupe]

Are the heads fully ported? You need a pretty big intake runner to feed all those cubes!

[cyah92]

the guy at the machine shop show me what he had to cut and it look like it might cut a hole in the piston. i don't know if he couldn't do it right or what. just didn't want to take that chance and ruin them when i can sell them and put the money for the right pistons.

[cyah92]

heads have a lot of work done to them. don't know about fully ported. i know they been gasket match to the intake. they flow good on the engine when it was running so i don't think i have any issues. unless somebody wants to swap with me some high ports this will have to be.

[cyah92]

Tired messing around. Decided if I was going to spend money on pistons I will go allout. So I went and order some custom wiseco pistons. Should be around 13 1/2 to 1 compression. And boring the engine 40 over to make it a 398( I'm geussing).

[cyah92]

Just a little update on the pars. I ordered. Bought a new miser differential cover that should be in today and getting a new maf from Adam t s and m. Still. Waiting on machine shop.

[cyah92]

Got. Some good news for once. Got my differential cover and the machine shop got my block bored. 40 over and pistons order. Hopefully engine will be done in a month.

[SN95N/A]

Good news goodluck with it!who's doing the motor work

[cyah92]

Joe at Leach brothers. Not my first or second pick but the only Guy who said he could do it right now.

[chrisb1961]

Good luck man. Get them pics up when you can!

[cyah92]

I will. Its getting close.

[cyah92]

Little bit of news but some good news. Block has been bored 40 over. My pistons finally came in and they look pretty. I was told they we're balancing everything today so hopefully tomorrow they will start assembly it

[cyah92]

Got my elbow in for my intake. Having problems finding the right distributor for the edition. Victorjr. Intake. It uses a different distributor. Don't ask me why I don't know. My luck I live for the excitement of getting in these type of situation. The engine is coming along. The bill is getting higher too. That's all I can say is thanks to the Guy who sold me this engine. Unless u want the bill.

[cyah92]

Maybe next week

[2Fast4You]

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[cyah92]

That's pretty

[blown86lx]

It looks like it is coming together well. Not trying to poke you with a stick, and I'm sure this is a sore subject ,but from reading your post it sounds like you would have been better off just starting with a bare 351 block and starting from scratch? Sucks to hear about your motor man. Sounds like something that would happen to me because that is just the kind of luck that I have.

[cyah92]

I agree with u all the way. I paid good money for a junk engine from a Guy who was supposed to know how to build engines. It sucks but life moves on. Hopefully my engine will be done in a week and put all the pretty parts together. Hopefully I can crack some low tens with it. We will just have to see.

[cyah92]

No pictures yet but a little up date on the engine build. I went and check if They ever started on building it. Wiseco sent the wrong damn pisltons for my engine. They end up being a half an inch short. My luck isn't it. Thankfully it only took over the weekend to get the right ones. A week later they finally have the short block together. The engine builder has a little health problems so there was a few week delay. I didn't get to talk to him when he thinks it will be finished. I'm just glad there is finally something done to it.

[2Fast4You]

Canton oil pan w/ Lokar dipstick, Melling HV oil pump and pick up tube.

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[cyah92]

Well the time is finally here. The 398ci engine is finally done. I finally get to pick it up this Saturday. It better b a thumper. do to the extra $3900 it took to get everything fix and replace. I thank the dick who sold me the junk ass engine so I can go threw all the BS I just went threw. Pictures coming soon.

[cyah92]

Well my laptop is missing in action. Can't put any pictures up yet but I was pretty busy today. I got the engine and tranny bolted up today and put in the car. Put the driveshaft in and the complete exhaust system on. Its been 2 years since I started the project and can't wait t get it done.

[2Fast4You]

Way to get that thing put back together, should be a Screaming Eagle when up and running again.

[1baddlx]

Well the time is finally here. The 398ci engine is finally done. I finally get to pick it up this Saturday. It better b a thumper. do to the extra $3900 it took to get everything fix and replace. I thank the dick who sold me the junk ass engine so I can go threw all the BS I just went threw. Pictures coming soon.

Who was the original engine builder so I don't waste hard earned coin there?

[cyah92]

Im not sure if Mike is the one who built it. He is the one who sold me the junk.

[cyah92]

i finally found the laptop and the camera. 6 months at the machine shop and its finally done and here it is.http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN1051_zpsb638ec15.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/cyah92/media/DSCN1051_zpsb638ec15.jpg.html)

[cyah92]

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[cyah92]

i pick the engine up last saturday and was so excited i started to put the engine and tranny together. i wanted to do more but i had a birthday party to go to. by the time i got home i was to exausted to do anythihttp://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y499/cyah92/DSCN1070_zpsecf9b62b.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/cyah92/media/DSCN1070_zpsecf9b62b.jpg.html)ng to the car. got a couple of hours and sleep and it was time to work.

[cyah92]

also got the exaust on and driveshaft hooked up. im very happy that i got this much accomplish in one day. its almost done just need to get a maf and new fuel lines.

[Rich]

Looks good. Who did the intake conversion?

[cyah92]

I bought it off of corral. Not for sure who converted it.

[cyah92]

I know its been awhile since I post but its just been to dam cold to do anything. But I have made progress. Know pictures at this time. Maybe this weekend. I did buy the new holley HP system. Hopefully its as good as I keep hearing that it is.

[draggin50]

Cant wait to see some pictures! This winter has killed my progress too. I cant do shit out when its cold!

[cyah92]

Hopefully this weekend I can get some up. I would love to be able to start it up next weekend.

[2Fast4You]

I have your Holley HP EFI in the back of my car, I think I will keep this for my 427W build up...

[2Fast4You]

I have your Holley HP EFI in the back of my car, I think I will keep this for my Turbo EFI 427W build up...

[cyah92]

Lol.it will be another ten years before u figure out what u want to build Lol. I think I will use it till then.

[Maximus]

Lol.it will be another ten years before u figure out what u want to build Lol. I think I will use it till then.

Thats funny. :lol:

[cyah92]

Computer shot still so I cant load pictures. But the day finally was here. The holly HP system all tied in and the car is finally done. Tried to do a test start without fuel and here something hitting were the trans and engine connects to each other. Plus starter and battery are shot. Got new battery and starter in it. Turns real quick but still hitting some were. My luck really sucks. Just want to start it but might have to pull tranny.

[mustangjon]

See if the small metal shield hitting flex plate

[cyah92]

Brand new flywheel broke a couple of teeth off of it. Wtf

[chris91]

Wrong starter maybe? I had a Acura Integra that the whole ring of teeth on the flywheel separated from the flywheel. After replacing the starter twice I realized it. LOL

Wow I still have the pic too. haha

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d31/blown94ls/copy.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/blown94ls/media/copy.jpg.html)

[cyah92]

I think bad luck just follows me around. The good (New flywheel in). The bad ( it won't start). There's got to be a wire or something in the wrong place. I just don't know. Anybody have a clue about the efi holley setup. U figure about two grande they would come and hook it up for u. I'm frustrated and just want to drive it. Need help. Asap.

[86gt40]

Any luck getting this up and running? I read this every day looking to see.

[cyah92]

Not yet have something wrong somewhere in the wiring.

[jktruckin06]

Bad system maybe? With it being a newer system it should be fairly easy to chase if it is just a wire.

[cyah92]

I know its been Awhile since I posted anything but just been having troubles with the holley efi system. I'm just going to take it somewhere And hope they can get it running without breaking the bank. Give me luck. I will keep u updated when I find something out

[draggin50]

Hope you start having some better luck! I wanna see this car out again!!

- - - Updated - - -

Call Adam up at S&M and see what he has to say.

[cyah92]

I broke down and my car is now in the shop. Hopefully Adam at s and m can get it figured out. Its been 3 years and a lot of money. Hopefully it is something simple we just didn't see. Good luck Adam and hopefully i can get to drive it soon.

[Gearhead]

I broke down and my car is now in the shop. Hopefully Adam at s and m can get it figured out. Its been 3 years and a lot of money. Hopefully it is something simple we just didn't see. Good luck Adam and hopefully i can get to drive it soon.

It's in the right hands, that's for sure !! I'm sure Adam will get it straightened out !!

[redfirepearlgt]

I broke down and my car is now in the shop. Hopefully Adam at s and m can get it figured out. Its been 3 years and a lot of money. Hopefully it is something simple we just didn't see. Good luck Adam and hopefully i can get to drive it soon.

Are you kidding? Hope Adam can figure it out? Sheeee-ooot! He is to tuning what Crown Royal is to Whiskey. You go the right man for that job.

[cyah92]

Well he came up with a bad distributor. Got to love when new parts dont work. Hopefully thats all is wrong with it.

[2Fast4You]

Here is just a recent photo of the 393W in the 1992 Gould Mustang, should be running soon.

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g338/way2fast4you2/1992GouldMustangenginebay_zps216ef1fc.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/way2fast4you2/media/1992GouldMustangenginebay_zps216ef1fc.jpg.html)

[mustangjon]

Looking good!

[cyah92]

Its been A week and it still doesn't run. Hopefully everything is OK and don't have to put anymore big money in it.

[cyah92]

Well finally got some good and bad news. The new distributor is definitely shot. Go figure my luck. Starter that I bought is fried to. Luckily the distributor is warranty so theres some money saved. I got about a week or two before the new distributor gets back. Well we got an old distributor and put it it and adam finally got it running. The bad. I didn't get to here it run but was told it sounds pretty good. Hopefully I can get it back to enjoy it before it gets to cold and the white flakes start to drop.

[draggin50]

I hope to see this out come spring!!! Should run good!

[cyah92]

Well I just got to say my f-----g luck sucks. I haven't heard the car yet but its suppose to sound pretty. Its just pretty bad when one thing messes up u just stick it between the legs and deal with it. But what happens when it happens twice to you. Well if u need to know the used starter must be shot. It decided I made to much money this year and broke another tooth on the second flexplate I just bought. Isnt that some shit. The good news is the bad distributor was warranty and the new one works. Hopefully I can gdt this car before layoff. I will keep everybody updated on what I am going to do.

[draggin50]

What starter and flexplate are you using? What is causing it?

[2Fast4You]

It has a JW Flexplate and some sort of a higher torque starter, not sure what brand. As Todd stated, this starter took off a tooth of the original flexplate when we first tried to start this car, thought it was a flook. We then put a used Jeg's high torque starter and it quit working after a few times starting. So, we then put the original starter on not thinking it was the culprit in the original incident, incorrect about that. So now it sits awaiting for a decision on what direction to go now.

[TooFast98Cobra]

I have a brand new 157t zero bal. Jw the wheel I can sell u . We would have to ship it .

[2Fast4You]

He needs a 28oz flexplate.

[draggin50]

Are the starters different between 157 tooth and 164 tooth flex plates?

[2Fast4You]

There aren't any differences on the starter teeth.

[cyah92]

Still waiting

[cyah92]

Still waiting

[chris91]

Hey are ya still waiting? LoL

[cyah92]

Still waiting. Lol.

[cyah92]

Its depressing. Hopefully adam can figure it out without costing me to much more out of my pocket.

[2Fast4You]

Just want to give a Thank You to Mike from Dayton Performance with some insight, he is taking steps to be involved with trying to figure some things out with some of these issues as well.
Took the starter a part and believe we may have found the issue with it not functioning, found a broken conductor wire from the appendix to the starter motor, time will tell on that. Still no luck with the hard starting part of the car. Not sure that it is electrical and may need to pull the engine and do a teardown and reassembly to check all tolerances for it. Will keep this moving forward.

[slow86fiveoh]

Thats sucks about the hard start problem hope it isnt the motor, my buddy went through this with his car a few months ago after his 3rd pass it got hard to start wound up being a rod bearing going. Good luck man!

[2Fast4You]

Going to try adding an MSD box to see if that helps, may need the added spark energy to get this thing to fire more effectively.

[Rick93coupe]

You were running it without one?

[2Fast4You]

Yes, Holley said that it would work.

[Rick93coupe]

Yeah I knew the instructions said it would work, I just never knew of anyone who didn't use one. I figured if a little motor could benefit from an ignition box, a big motor definitely would.
Either way, plenty of time to sort it out before spring, good luck!

[2Fast4You]

Well, if it makes a difference to resolve the issue, lesson well learned.

[2Fast4You]

Good news, the MSd Digital 6-Plus has brought this car to life... Hip, Hip, Hurray............................................ .................................................. .................................................. .

[mustangjon]

Great to here

[2Fast4You]

Adam said he has a walk around video but having problems getting it too me, he will try and post it here soon.

[cyah92]

Well im a very happy man to here my car is finally running right. I want to thank Adam for being patient and getting it done. Im just glad that I will be able to drive my car very soon.

[Rick93coupe]

Hell yeah, congrats!

[setty2706]

Glad to hear you finally have it up and running... Its alive :)

[draggin50]

Glad to hear! Now get that video posted!!!

[2Fast4You]

Not the best video but at least an idea, it's a teaser, Todd hasn't heard it yet...

http://vid1096.photobucket.com/albums/g338/way2fast4you2/1992%20Gould%20Mustang_zpsnrnwgply.mp4

[setty2706]

Sounds good... big progress

[draggin50]

Sounds good! Glad to hear it wasn't anything major!

[2Fast4You]

Yeah, we were surely coming to wits end on this thing.

[cyah92]

If everything goes good tomorrow I will be bringing the car home. Have a few odds and ends to get tighty jp before I get it dyno tunef.

[cyah92]

Well my dream came through. I got my car home before Christmas. I finally got to hear it run and all I can say is. Badass. I love the crackle.

[2Fast4You]

It is good to see it home, now on to some minor details to attend to prior to finalizing drivability to finish on the Dyno.

[motox159]

Congrats fella! Have been watching this build up for a while now. Always good to hear it roar and driveable! :bigthumb

[86gt40]

Awesome end to the story!

[redfirepearlgt]

Great news man. About time that car left Cleves. Any longer there and it would have had to take up permanent residence. LOL! Hope to see you out and about in it soon!

[draggin50]

Im still sitting here waiting on some more pictures and video!!!

But glad to here its back at home and running!

[cyah92]

Yeah it definitely been there way to long but he figured what we was doing wrong. Im definitely going to try and get it out as much as possible. Theres a few little things that I need to do before I can get it tuned. I will try to get some better pictures of the car and engine and definitely of it running. Until then. Thanks

[cyah92]

I know its been awhile but I finally got motivated again due to the nice weather. I been working on the line lock and the trans brake. I know some of you guys need some pictures and video but my computer went to shit again. Hopefully I can get the wiring done pretty quick. Warm weather is going to be here for awhile and im ready to go cruising.

[cyah92]

My computer is still down but hopefully my brother can come down and take some pictures and video of it. I finally got some motivation and got all the wires I still had to run and tuck away. My rearend seal started leaking so I had to replace that. Then every gasket on the tranny started leaking plus the rear tail shaft seal. I finally replace the gasket and seal. It was a very happy day yesterday for me and the mustang. Im finally done im hoping anyways. Im going to try to drive it today. I don't have tags since this project took alot longer but wish me luck.

[setty2706]

Can't wait to see it again... Glad to hear its almost ready for the road

[cyah92]

I just got to get the brakes bled and I should be able to drive it. It idles at 1500rpm. I tried to get it lowered but nothing happened. The stall I have it might still go into gear fine. We will see this week.

[2Fast4You]

We will need to get with Holley to figure out the idle issue through the Holley HP EFI, it's still way to high.

[cyah92]

Well figured the idling out it was the throttle cable getting hung up. Rearrange it and now should be fine. Well I still have a little bad luck going with this car. Found a brake line leaking. So I went and got a new line and will fix it tomorrow. Wish me luck because I want to drive this thing.

[redfirepearlgt]

Sounds great!

[cyah92]

Thanks chad. Im getting excited about driving it but my bad luck hits me again. Damn master cylinder has a strip thread in the bottom port. Oh well im use to it now. Eventually I will have it done. Till then I will get a master cylinder tomorrow.

[4n_eatr]

Does that thing have an evil spirit living in it? Lol
I can't wait to see it in person one of these times.

[1baddlx]

Glad it's up and running,sucks that the original engine deal went sour,I definitely learned something from your ordeal,I wouldn't have took it well and neither would have the other guy.hopefully your car achieves the goal you have set for it!

[2Fast4You]

Even though he had some issues with the engine to begin with, we feel it was never intentional and Mike is working on resolving this situation. We have had multiple issues from the start with different swaps that have not yet still been resolved. It's just learning as you go, it's what you do at the time of the issue or even after that helps dictate the honesty of any individual. It will all get figured out eventually and become a fun daily driver.

[draggin50]

Yeah anytime you buy used, there is always the chance of something happening. I sold a motor years back to a guy on here and it had issues. I had took it out of my car and it ran fine. It wouldn't have lasted though as the other guy pulled it apart and it was about junk. Its just something that happens.

Good luck! It will come around for ya soon and youll be out enjoying it!

[1baddlx]

If my engine were to ever take a dump,I'm thinking 408 Windsor, and a automatic trans!hopefully I don't need to swap anytime soon.

[NXcoupe]

I never addressed this as it was his build thread and I didnt want to clutter it up with back and forth banter. I dont have xray vision and will never sell an engine without taking it apart beforehand again. Todd and I have moved passed this and I've helped him out with some things and bought the pistons from him out of the engine. If someone thinks I would intentionally sell someone an engine with issues I knew were present then they don't know me. This engine ran great and made close to 500 rwhp and had great oil pressure too. I sold it thinking the engine was 100%. A year later we found out it had issues. Most guys would have told him to pound salt, I didn't do that and I've made it up to him as best I can.
Heads were done by Brian at TEA and were on my renegade car. He inspected and freshened them. My stepson and I assembled the shortblock over a 2 year period. We both swear that we cked piston to valve clearance but obviously it was not. I apologized for the oversight and no engine built for a customer leaves without being checked and it documented.
Todd I wont clutter up your thread any more. You are doing a great job on this car. Hope it gives you years of enjoyment.

[cyah92]

Well. I think the tranny or tourqe converter is shot. Till I find out what's going on. This fu----g sucks. Have a good day.

[cyah92]

Thanks Mike. I know you wouldn't have sold me the engine if you new there was complications with it. I really appreciate you helping me out with everything you have done to make it right. You have hooked me up with some good deals in the past and will still keep working with youto get this car tuned and future business to. To all who read my build sheet mike has been helping me out on the situation that was accured and has made it right. He is a good man and wont think twice about buying anything else from him.

[cyah92]

Well I thought my bad luck got really bad for. Thought the rebuilt trans was shot in the stang so I took it out and sent it to the guy that built it 15 years ago. Yeah I know its been sitting for along time but it was my brothers trans at one time and if you know my brother it takes him awhile to get things done. Lol. It took a couple days to get it back but its ok. It had a part of the linkage inside the trans was disconnected from the shifter rod. Don't know how the hell I did that but it was a $100 downthe drain but its fixed. Amen. Got the trans in and did a little test and put it in gear and rev it and the tires went faster. I know i sound like a little kid getting excited but I've been through alot with this car. I still have some brake lines to fix but thats for another day. Until then.

[k062693w]

Good to hear !!! :bigthumb :bigthumb :bigthumb

[draggin50]

How long till you get it to the track? I miss that old car!

[86gt40]

How did that gear work out for you?

[cyah92]

Gear is doing good so far. Hopefully in the next month I could take it down the track. Need to get it tuned still. But I work alot and trying to get it in the door when you want it to to get tuned is usually impossible.

[NXcoupe]

Good luck, keep at it.

[draggin50]

Gear is doing good so far. Hopefully in the next month I could take it down the track. Need to get it tuned still. But I work alot and trying to get it in the door when you want it to to get tuned is usually impossible.

Keep us posted. Id like to come watch when its at the track. Kilkare or Edgewater?

[cyah92]

It will be Edgewate it's alot closer for me. I will post the day I take it down to the track. It's getting very close getting this thing done.

[motox159]

Good to hear!

[draggin50]

It will be Edgewate it's alot closer for me. I will post the day I take it down to the track. It's getting very close getting this thing done.

Yuck....

Im not a fan of Dick so I try not to support him in any way. Maybe if someone else takes it over, Ill come back.

[cyah92]

I know what you mean Brian. I love to go to kilkare but its 50miles away.

[cyah92]

Its been a very good day today. Had to replace both rear wheel cylinders but I was finally able to put all 4 tires on the ground and drive it out of my garage. Due to the killer upgrades I've done and e-85 im running it needs a good tune on it. I thought that's what I've already done but it bogs down alot. It felt really nice to be able to drive it down the road with 10inch slicks and someone else's 4 year old tags. Lol. I didn't care I was excited.

[draggin50]

No pictures? No video?

[cyah92]

My computer is still down.

[cyah92]

Well I broke down and bought tags for the car today. Hopefully if everything gos good I will be getting it tuned next Saturday

[k062693w]

Well I broke down and bought tags for the car today. Hopefully if everything gos good I will be getting it tuned next Saturday

Congrats ...
I'm sure you're chomping at the bit !!!

[redfirepearlgt]

good to hear!!!

[cyah92]

The only bad thing is that I don't have any street tires. I only have my slicks.

[draggin50]

That's all you need! I drove mine 90 miles last time it was out on the little 26x8.5 slicks. Not a problem one! Well, there was the time I tried to blow around a buddy in his truck and it got a little out of shape. But normal driving was fine.

[cyah92]

Took the mustang out for a couple mile drive today. The first time I went 30mph with 10inch slicks and rosted them. 1st or second gear it didn't matter. The bad. To much play in the steering. I think the manual rack and pinion is a little wore out. I kinda like to put the power steering back on it. We will see.

[draggin50]

Took the mustang out for a couple mile drive today. The first time I went 30mph with 10inch slicks and rosted them. 1st or second gear it didn't matter. The bad. To much play in the steering. I think the manual rack and pinion is a little wore out. I kinda like to put the power steering back on it. We will see.

You don't need no stinking power steering!!!! Im sure its been in there for years. Probably just wore out.

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And no video's or pictures again.... Im feeling let down!

[cyah92]

I know. I want to put pics and vids I just don't know how to do it on my phone. Well to the post. Had a little bad luck again with the tranny. My tranny coolant line fell off and I end up burning the clutches up in the tranny. But I got the tranny rebuilt and back in the car. Seems like its working good did about a 50ft possy before it started hitting sideways on a small road.

[2Fast4You]

Here you go Schmuck. Lol

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g338/way2fast4you2/20150531_161537_zpsog4ledzp.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/way2fast4you2/media/20150531_161537_zpsog4ledzp.jpg.html)
http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g338/way2fast4you2/2015071795185519_zps4aca2bwp.jpg (http://s1096.photobucket.com/user/way2fast4you2/media/2015071795185519_zps4aca2bwp.jpg.html)

[draggin50]

Where is the burnout picture???

That's what I wanna see!

[cyah92]

It didn't leave a real dark burnout but its there

[motox159]

Nice to see that it can move on it's own power! Always been one of my favorite cars on here. Lookin good!

[2Fast4You]

Where is the burnout picture???

That's what I wanna see!

Are you Blind, it's there. Lol

[86gt40]

The hood looks good on there !

[draggin50]

Are you Blind, it's there. Lol

Haha that ain't no burnout!!! That's pictures of some marks! I wanna see burnout pictures!

[SN95N/A]

I want burnout video lol

[draggin50]

That's what Im saying!!!

[cyah92]

Thanks guys. Shayne will have to come over to video it for it

[cyah92]

Welli have another chance to get this thing tuned Thursday so hopefully everything turns out excellent for the car and produces the hp I have been hoping for. Wish me luck. Fyi I probably be running at e20 Friday if everything turns out okay and if I can find some rims to put my slicks on. Unless someone has a set up I can use. Until then.

[k062693w]

Congrats !!!
I know it's been a long time coming, With some bumps along the way ...
I bet you're Pumped !!!

[cyah92]

Took my first about 25 mile drive today. I love cruising in the mustang because everyone who looks is giving me a thumbs up. But man this thing is loud. You can here me coming a mile away. Besides the joyful ride it gets tuned tomorrow. I am so siked to get the tuned right so it will start better. Better throttle response and especially bring me more power.

[cyah92]

Finally got the car tuned and it runs a hell of alot better and finally starts up better. Mike bell did a good job finally getting my car straighten out. I really appreciate mike helping me getting my mustang done so I can finally take it to the track. It's been along time coming. I just want to thank Mike for hooking me up.

[Kwik92GT]

You better be hitting the Dirty Dozens threads soon! Glad it's running well for you. :bigthumb

[draggin50]

Good to hear! He is pretty familiar with that car.

[2Fast4You]

It definitely runs much better and surely laid down one heck of a patch in front of his shop...

[SN95N/A]

It's hard to believe without video evidence

[NXcoupe]

Glad to help out. I love tuning holley systems. Your car is a beast and sounds just like barney did. Lol wonder why? Lol.

[2Fast4You]

It's hard to believe without video evidence

Yeah, that seems to be the trend! Lol

[draggin50]

Between the both of ya, you need a camera and camcorder!!! Your killing us that can't read and only look at pictures and video!!

[2Fast4You]

Lol Brian, he should be at the track next Friday. You can get some video then.

[draggin50]

I'd love to but I'm stuck working. I hate 2nd shift sometimes but I'm not real good being in the eye of all our customers! 2nds keeps me out of trouble! One of these days though you'll both have to come to kilkare on a Thursday.

[cyah92]

Well I decided to take the 373 out of the car and stick a 327 in it to get a little street ability. Especially on the highway. Everything turned out good on got 10mph out of it. Hopefully it will be ready for the track Friday.

[cyah92]

I know im still trying to get pictures and videos up. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[redfirepearlgt]

maybe I can get down to tape your pass this friday 8/28 Todd.

[cyah92]

That would be pretty nice of you. Should definitely have everything button up by then. Still have a little play in the steering but starting to figure it out

[cyah92]

Well like my luck always is I end up breaking the shaft that connects to the steering wheel and rack and pinion. I was trying to tighten my steering up and the housing that holds the u joint split right in half. Now either im strpnger than I look or it might of had a crack allready there. The bad is I will not be able to run on Friday but should be able to get it fixed by Saturday so I can make it Sunday.