Turbo fox dyno poll

[blown96cobra]

So my turbo car should be done and dyno'd within the next month. Im curious to see what everyone thinks Ill make to the rear wheels. Here are my mods.

Stock roller 302 with 40k miles, stock ho cam with 1.7 RR, Trickflow 170cc heads with light exhaust work, edelbrock rpm intake, 75mm tbody and egr spacer, on3 turbo kit with 67mm ball bearing turbo @ 9psi, 3in single exhaust to a single 3in race bullet. redneck c4 with redneck 3400 converter, 42lb injectors, pmas blow thru meter, aeromotive stealth 340lph pump

Im guessing somewhere around 510whp/570tq

[331lx]

My guess is 495/550 since your going through a auto.

[331lx]

Who is doin the tuning that's gonna be the tell tale diff.

[blown96cobra]

Mike at Dayton Perf.

[331lx]

Sweet u be good then he gonna b the one building my new 414ci. Keep us posted when u get it dynoed

[blown96cobra]

sure will....i cant wait. Its been sitting over there covered up since May of this year. Mike got very backed up and my car got put on the back burner since it came over there with a shit ton of fuel issues.

[331lx]

I was gonna turbo mine but it was sure to do over 5 and I was worried about the block breaking. Are you concerned about this at all?

[blown96cobra]

not really if it breaks ill just do a boss or dart block and go for 700hp with a 76mm turbonetics

[blown96cobra]

anyone else with a guess?

[red srides]

400 hp-ish Go to adam it might last longer this time

[90fastgt]

I like Adam also for tuning but I have never got mike at Dayton to tune ne thing I would say between 450 & 500 I was goin to Turbo mine with the set up in my sig minus the supercharger of coarse Adam said at 13 pound it shouldgo over 500 with ease but every car acts different but I supercharged it instead of Turbo I'm waiting to get it tuned after christmas

[red srides]

not talking bad about no body just my op josh remember dosnt have forged pistons

[Walter]

Ill say 440hp/465tq.

[331lx]

Is this going to b gas or e85?

[blown96cobra]

93 oct unless I go up to 60lb injectors.

[blown96cobra]

I like Adam also for tuning but I have never got mike at Dayton to tune ne thing I would say between 450 & 500 I was goin to Turbo mine with the set up in my sig minus the supercharger of coarse Adam said at 13 pound it shouldgo over 500 with ease but every car acts different but I supercharged it instead of Turbo I'm waiting to get it tuned after christmas

Mike is a hell of a good tuner when he takes his time and no ones is standing around distracting him. Hes done two of my
Other cars and they both turned out great and made killer power.

[chris91]

I predict it makes 5hp and 10 trq. :)

[blown96cobra]

I predict it makes 5hp and 10 trq. :)

Smartass!!!!

[5.0calypso93lx]

On 9lbs, I would also think it's going to be mid 400's hp and tq.

[700hp04mystic]

you better hope it is more than mid 400 or im gonna bust that ass with my tanker. hahahaha

[2Fast4You]

It will be in the neighborhood of the 450's if all goes well.

[331lx]

you better hope it is more than mid 400 or im gonna bust that ass with my tanker. hahahaha

Lol that's awesome

[90fastgt]

Lol thats hilarious let us know how it goes

[blown96cobra]

Looks like I may turn it up to 12. I want as close to 500whp as possible.

[90fastgt]

12 psi would definitely get you there I think

[chris91]

Okay okay.... 250hp and 300 trq.. :)

[331lx]

Who cares just get ur et ur after lol.

[blown96cobra]

you better hope it is more than mid 400 or im gonna bust that ass with my tanker. hahahaha

You better get that termi to hook. 700whp isn't any good when it spins at 70-80mph.

[700hp04mystic]

true that but it is a wild ride at 100 mph and that no shit 4 gear on the spray is like 2nd gear the way it spins.

[blown96cobra]

true that but it is a wild ride at 100 mph and that no shit 4 gear on the spray is like 2nd gear the way it spins.

Yea that damn thing was all over the place at 100 it looked like. I'd say 2nd gear on nitrous is pretty useless

[cobra429boss]

I will say 465 at 9lbs 500-510 with 12lbs

[Goober]

I'm not sure if S&M has one, but Mikes dyno can put a variable load on the car, and that makes a big difference when tuning a turbo car. Are you using the SCT stuff or a Moates?

[90fastgt]

I have heard alot of people goin from sct to moates I am actually getting ready to switch

[cobra429boss]

so when you gonna dyno it

[blown96cobra]

I'm not sure if S&M has one, but Mikes dyno can put a variable load on the car, and that makes a big difference when tuning a turbo car. Are you using the SCT stuff or a Moates?

Sct.....I'd like to try the moates out.

[blown96cobra]

so when you gonna dyno it

As soon as everything is back together and mike thinks its ready. He found the fuel issue I had. Apparently I kinked a fuel line when we set the motor back in it the first time. He's replacing some fuel lines and getting it all back together.

[blown96cobra]

I will say 465 at 9lbs 500-510 with 12lbs

i think your pretty close.

[RacerX]

Did you get it tuned yet? We talked and I'm really wanting to do a similar set up. I think 500 ATRW would be very respectable.

I also wonder what general area would that push a fox ET wise? Assuming it's still a street car w/drag radials and stock weight.

Looking forward to seeing the #'s.






DR

[blown96cobra]

[QUOTE=RacerX;691266]Did you get it tuned yet? We talked and I'm really wanting to do a similar set up. I think 500 ATRW would be very respectable.

I also wonder what general area would that push a fox ET wise? Assuming it's still a street car w/drag radials and stock weight.

Looking forward to seeing the #'s.



it should be on the rollers this week, I talked to mike today and the motor is back in it theres just a few things that need buttoned up before he starts it and straps it down.

[TurboNG]

[QUOTE=RacerX;691266]Did you get it tuned yet? We talked and I'm really wanting to do a similar set up. I think 500 ATRW would be very respectable.
I also wonder what general area would that push a fox ET wise? Assuming it's still a street car w/drag radials and stock weight.
Looking forward to seeing the #'s.
it should be on the rollers this week, I talked to mike today and the motor is back in it theres just a few things that need buttoned up before he starts it and straps it down.

Depends on weight and 60 ft times, Eddie(blowpastu) had 468hp (or something like that) and ran low 10s, even made a 9.90 pass on foot brake, granted it was a gutted notch but still.

[331lx]

Blown96 what et u shooting for again?

[blown96cobra]

bottom 10s high 9s on drs

[red srides]

\\wonderland // me to

[jack90gt]

bottom 10s high 9s on drs

Hell yeah... Good luck man......

[700hp04mystic]

off your rocker lol never no

[bbfstanger]

450ish is my guess
hope you get what you want out of it

[blown96cobra]

off your rocker lol never no

several other people have done it.....not sure what makes you think its not possible. Its a pretty basic proven combo.

[blown96cobra]

\\wonderland // me to

your funny red!

[331lx]

My buddies old turbo 306 coupe went 10.0 on 12psi holley top end kit and stock block. Full weight coupe on slicks with a c4

[red srides]

thers alot more to it than bolting a turbo kit on it and going 10 os high 9 s

[331lx]

Well yea assuming one has done all there homework with gears,suspension,tuning,etc.. I was just giving a example that o personally knew of

[700hp04mystic]

i hope it does great but just dont want u to b disappointed.

[blown96cobra]

thers alot more to it than bolting a turbo kit on it and going 10 os high 9 s

Really? I didn't know that and I thought the all the $ I spent on suspension stuff was just to make it look pretty underneath

[red srides]

what all u got man ill put a tow strap on back of my car and u should be ther lol u geting mad yet

[blown96cobra]

All upr rear susp, comp engineering adjustable shocks, rear drag springs, and I
Picking up a kmember,arms and coilovers when I pick the car up. And no I'm not mad at all,everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[blown96cobra]

i hope it does great but just dont want u to b disappointed.

If it makes a clean pass down the track I won't be disappointed regardless of what it runs.

[700hp04mystic]

wow calm down josh red just being a hater like he told a bunch of guys i no that my car dont make 700 wheel and i was full of shit. but talk is cheap we all no that. will see where everyone is at when the smoke clears. i no what my car makes, 2 dynos cant have the same numbers so beleive what u want. once i get my suspension figuerd out and lighten the car up wich iam will see.

[Walter]

Why the 67mm? Why not 70 or 76?

[red srides]

all i thought we still in wonderland and steve your car should make 700hp with nos kit and I didnt say that I said it cant be that fast on stock suspension

[red srides]

dont do what brandon does to them steve

[700hp04mystic]

shit i dont ive had mine going for 2 years now still going strong.

[blown96cobra]

Why the 67mm? Why not 70 or 76?

Figured it would spool up faster and they were completely out of the mp70s. The 76 is a bit much for a stock block 302

[red srides]

going put two 76ar 68 hot side on stock block and going to try to use stock heads will see how that one goes

[Walter]

Figured it would spool up faster and they were completely out of the mp70s. The 76 is a bit much for a stock block 302

Thats a big misconception.

[blown96cobra]

I also kinda liked the idea of the ball bearing vs. the journal bearing.

[Walter]

Get a ball bearing 76.

[331lx]

how many more days for dyno time i am wanting to see numbers ha

[blown96cobra]

how many more days for dyno time i am wanting to see numbers ha

I'm wondering that myself. I talked to him Monday and he was getting ready to start it. Should be running and tuned by the weekend I'd think. I just don't wanna rush him it's been this long id rather mike take his time.

[mad max]

I just wanna come watch when you and the tank run .

[blown96cobra]

I just wanna come watch when you and the tank run .

That mystics gonna be a mother to beat. It's stupid fast for a daily driven street car and the only prayer I've got is a dig race which he did agree to hopefully he doesn't forget.

[mad max]

It sounds like a pretty sweet ride.

[blown96cobra]

It sounds like a pretty sweet ride.

707whp and it looks as good as it runs. It's probably the sexiest cobra I've ever seen!

[700hp04mystic]

shit i aint dig racing shit till my suspension is on im gonna order it all tomorrow

[700hp04mystic]

yea i cant wait till that beasts is done then he can race it instead of trying to start shit on extreme with my car he can run is own and il set him up some races. should b fun to return the favor for ya bud. lol

[331lx]

Wow 707hp is alot. Blown96 u better hope he spins a lot so u can get out front early lol I'm sure both are fast cars

[700hp04mystic]

yea we like to give each other shit thats what its all about. i hope all goes well for him, so far all bad luck.

[cobra429boss]

roll racing is for pussys

[blown96cobra]

roll racing is for pussys

I almost feel bad for you when Steve sees this. Your in for it.

[700hp04mystic]

il tell u what u low life piece of trash if u got something to say meet me in person and say it to my face u sob i will beat the retardness out of u then take the 22 dollars u owe josh. i can tell u one thing your not fucking with josh. you wouldnt no anything about raceing but getting in your strawberry patch piece of shit and going to the ER to get my foot out of your ass u low life piece of human shit.

[blown96cobra]

Knew that was coming.

[Maximus]

roll racing is for pussys

Says the thief...
http://www.stangbangerz.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76322

[331lx]

Ding ding ding fellas lol

[90fastgt]

Wow this is getting interesting

[cobra429boss]

no ones a theif , go back to ripping off customers , whty you think adam got his own shop

[MFIELD]

:eek::eek::eek:

Dude, do you really want to start this kind of war. I think everyone on this site has a good idea of the type of person you are and will have nothing to do with you know. But going at long time respected members your just making it worse.

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

no ones a theif , go back to ripping off customers , whty you think adam got his own shop

Hey man please leave me out of this conversation, my decision to leave Cincy Speed was business oriented and not personal. During the 3-3.5 years I worked for Craig I had never seen any shady or questionable business practices. I have nothing to say about this thread or the previous one so please don't use me to fuel this argument. Thanks

[blown96cobra]

^^^ good man Adam. And Shaun stay the fuck outta my thread if u wanna call people pussies and start a war do in in the other one and I think you really need slapped upside your damn head for saying that shit about Craig and using Adams name. Your making alot of enemies really quik!

[Maximus]

no ones a theif , go back to ripping off customers , whty you think adam got his own shop

:lol: Keep reaching...

[331lx]

Back on track I wanna see dyno numbers lol

[700hp04mystic]

hell yea on the number any word yet.

[331lx]

Waiting....................lol

[cobra429boss]

Hey man please leave me out of this conversation, my decision to leave Cincy Speed was business oriented and not personal. During the 3-3.5 years I worked for Craig I had never seen any shady or questionable business practices. I have nothing to say about this thread or the previous one so please don't use me to fuel this argument. Thanks

lol my bad adam i just tryin to get craigy goin since he is givin me a hard time. we all know what i posted is not true. lol

[blown96cobra]

lol my bad adam i just tryin to get craigy goin since he is givin me a hard time. we all know what i posted is not true. lol

thats probably the most honest thing youve said......I think you should appoligize to Craig for what you said about him.

[90fastgt]

Lol so did that car get tuned today

[blown96cobra]

I guess Mikes on vacation so it will be another 6mo before i get it back. Oh well.

[700hp04mystic]

dam son spring aint that far away.

[331lx]

Really 6 months or are u just exaggerating. That sux get the car and go to Adams lol

[blown96cobra]

Really 6 months or are u just exaggerating. That sux get the car and go to Adams lol

Who knows.....I doubt it will be much longer just getting impatient.I've got an appt to get my cage fabd up and installed week after next and now its supposed to snow Monday so all bets are off.

[700hp04mystic]

cage ???????

[blown96cobra]

cage ???????

Yep slims doin a 6pt for me when I get it back. I've gotta pull all the interior out and drive it up and drop it off.

[700hp04mystic]

oh ok i see ur taking it to them i got ya.

[TurboNG]

From what i heard Saturday is Tune time for your car, not trying to speak for him but i have some work lined up behind you and he said he was tuning a car before doing my stuff so i assume its yours, plus your car is strapped to the Dyno

[blown96cobra]

Wooohoooo^^^^^^^^^^

[blown96cobra]

#s are in but there were a shit ton of little issues that stopped the car from making as much power as it should have. Made 400rwhp and 420rwtq. The maf, and fuel pressure regulator need replaced so the car couldnt be spun past 5k rpm and my tq converter is junk and absorbing hp so Im gonna replace that stuff and take her back to the dyno for some more tuning.

[700hp04mystic]

what the fuck u just told me on the phone a hole diffrent set of numbers what the hell.

[331lx]

I was expecting more but ur right get them parts replaced and spin it again. What boost was this at again?

[blown96cobra]

13#. The converter was causing the drop in power. Alan can chime in if he gets a chance and explain whats happening.

[700hp04mystic]

CANT WAIT TO BUST THAT ASSSSS. LOL BUD GLAD TO SEE IT GOING AGAIN I NEED SOMEONE TO GOT TO ASHLAND WITH ME ITS ME AGAINS THE WORLD DOWN THERE.

[331lx]

Get that converter fix and we see a bit closer to 500 I bet

[red srides]

not that bad thats should get u in the high 10s put it on diet get it to pull some good 60ft it try it be 4 u change the converter

[Dirtyd0g]

When I cut the converter open I will get some pics to explain what I think is going on. I suspect the stator in this unit is the one I refuse to use because of this kind of operation. The statos restricts flow to the pump to increase the stall. When the stator freewheels it will try to make the converter more efficient. In this case I suspect the stator with a part number ending in 086 is being used and that stator has very hard pitched but very spaced out fins. it allows plenty of flow but the hard pitch makes it very inefficient. It is done to increase stall. When that particular stator freewheels at a high speed it will begin to restrict the flow in a way it shouldn't. GM discontinued use of that stator in 2004 and replaced it with the best stator they have ever built.
I just wish they were easy to find. In a few years they should be.
Alan

[90fastgt]

Let us know when you get that dude fixed it will do alot more than that I just picked up my Turbo kit last nite can't wait to get it on an get it tuned

[red srides]

put a cam in it and it might make power above 5thos

[Goober]

put a cam in it and it might make power above 5thos

I would dare to say the reason Mike didn't take it past 5k was the other issues the car had. It was probably the MAF pegging causing everything to go lean, and the FPR wasn't keeping pressure correct on boost, right?

[blown96cobra]

I would dare to say the reason Mike didn't take it past 5k was the other issues the car had. It was probably the MAF pegging causing everything to go lean, and the FPR wasn't keeping pressure correct on boost, right?

Yep your correct. I looked up that damn junk regulator and it's not boost referenced so that's the pressure issue. Mike and Tracy did a hell of a job considering all the issues they ran into. That car was a heap of problems.

[700hp04mystic]

what up *****sssss

[ryan]

wow man this whole thread sounds crazy sounds like way to much money spent and way to big of a head ache, ill stick to my cheap chevy and no head aches

[blown96cobra]

Boost isn't cheap but when it's right it's fast!

[jack90gt]

Boost isn't cheap but when it's right it's fast!

Exactly...... I might use this as a quote for my Sig... Lol

[ryan]

boost when its right is fast, but with all the money spent to get it and then get it right a man could buy a old coupe put a sbc or bbc in it with a small shot of nos and go just as fast or faster and have way less money and less head aches. just saying but its all good and i hope you all have fun building and running your cars

[blown96cobra]

boost when its right is fast, but with all the money spent to get it and then get it right a man could buy a old coupe put a sbc or bbc in it with a small shot of nos and go just as fast or faster and have way less money and less head aches. just saying but its all good and i hope you all have fun building and running your cars

Why would anyone wanna slow there car down with a Chevy motor lol.

[700hp04mystic]

boost when its right is fast, but with all the money spent to get it and then get it right a man could buy a old coupe put a sbc or bbc in it with a small shot of nos and go just as fast or faster and have way less money and less head aches. just saying but its all good and i hope you all have fun building and running your cars

omg r u serious......:lol:

[ryan]

josh and steve, your both funny i guess ill have to just get a coupe and put a sbc in it and make it go faster and show you guys lol have fun

[blown96cobra]

Exactly...... I might use this as a quote for my Sig... Lol

Just make sure I get credit for the quote lol!

[jack90gt]

Hell ya you will man....

[cobra429boss]

Hope the car picks up for ya when you get the small stuff fixed

[jack90gt]

Got it and your name is even in it.....

[331lx]

U will see some low 10s if u can get that b**ch to hook.

[tonyr]

sorry steve but thats funny ...............

[700hp04mystic]

im like what the hell

[tonyr]

i was just laughing at the guy who said roll racing is for pussies steve this is the first time i have read this shit its to funny.......

[700hp04mystic]

yea i guess it is in a way but alot of people say shit they no nothing about u want to read some crazy stuff get on kyhorsepower.com go to new post and it says just out ran a guy from jackson ohio it 37 pages long and really exciting. lol

[red srides]

Stop smoking that stuff ryan making u think chevy are fast

[331lx]

This is gonna be my first go around with turbo car but I know from my past diesel experiences turbos make shit scoot. I remember my old twin turboed cummins was fun so I cant wait for my turbo on my car

[90fastgt]

I just got my Turbo on yesterday I can't wait to get it tuned I'm just scared with my 42 pound injectors an e85 I see people making well over 400 with 42sthe on pump gas but with e85 they say it takes more injector blown how was air fuel on your 42s at 400

[NXcoupe]

I just got my Turbo on yesterday I can't wait to get it tuned I'm just scared with my 42 pound injectors an e85 I see people making well over 400 with 42sthe on pump gas but with e85 they say it takes more injector blown how was air fuel on your 42s at 400

That's not enough injector for E85 and boost if you make over 400. jmho. Also your fuel pump needs to be up to the task.

[90fastgt]

I have the same pump as blown96 the aeromotive 340 thats why I was curious of the air to fuel ratio at 400 on pump gas cuz I will prolly just stay with pump gas like blown did if his injectors are enough interested in seeing what it makes once bugs are worked out

[blown96cobra]

I have the same pump as blown96 the aeromotive 340 thats why I was curious of the air to fuel ratio at 400 on pump gas cuz I will prolly just stay with pump gas like blown did if his injectors are enough interested in seeing what it makes once bugs are worked out

You have enough pump just not enough injector. You would need 60s with e85.

[90fastgt]

What gears are you running

[blown96cobra]

I have the same pump as blown96 the aeromotive 340 thats why I was curious of the air to fuel ratio at 400 on pump gas cuz I will prolly just stay with pump gas like blown did if his injectors are enough interested in seeing what it makes once bugs are worked out

Im gonna go with 60s, a pro m blow through meter and an accufab fpr. DirtyDogs gonna do a converter for me then its going back for better #s

[Maximus]

Im gonna go with 60s, a pro m blow through meter and an accufab fpr. DirtyDogs gonna do a converter for me then its going back for better #s

We have had good luck with the SCT meters.:bigthumb

[blown96cobra]

What gears are you running

3.27, auburn posi unit.

[blown96cobra]

We have had good luck with the SCT meters.:bigthumb

Ive heard mixed reviews on those....mike told me to steer clear of them but steve has one on his 04mystichrome and it works great?

[90fastgt]

I have the sct3000 meter an have had good luck with it so far I am debating between the 355 an 327 my car is a five speed though of course I really think your car is goin to run when the kinks get worked out

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

We have had good luck with the SCT meters.:bigthumb

X2:bigthumb

[blown96cobra]

I have the sct3000 meter an have had good luck with it so far I am debating between the 355 an 327 my car is a five speed though of course I really think your car is goin to run when the kinks get worked out


355 is what i had in my blk 92gt with a 70mm turbo/302 5spd. 1st gear was pretty useless with 275/60/15 et street radials so you may wanna consider a 3.27

[blown96cobra]

I have the sct3000 meter an have had good luck with it so far I am debating between the 355 an 327 my car is a five speed though of course I really think your car is goin to run when the kinks get worked out

Mike said the duty cycle was nearing 100% on the 42lb inj. so its making over 500hp the trans and converter are just eating it up.

[Maximus]

I was running 3:55 in both my Turbo Stangs. One had a C4, the other had a PG.:bigthumb

[blown96cobra]

X2:bigthumb

do you stock those things ? could u shoot me a price on the one id need?

[700hp04mystic]

Mike said the duty cycle was nearing 100% on the 42lb inj. so its making over 500hp the trans and converter are just eating it up.

that wouldnt your necessarily mean your at 500 wheel would it?

[NXcoupe]

that wouldnt your necessarily mean your at 500 wheel would it?

Well, they will support close to that hp amount and they are pegged by the datalogger. I don't think it's far off.

[blown96cobra]

Well, they will support close to that hp amount and they are pegged by the datalogger. I don't think it's far off.

Im thinking 60s and done!:cool1:

[700hp04mystic]

OH OK I HAVE A SET OF 60 FOR YA I THINK IM GETTING SOME PARTS TODAY. IF U WU ME THE MONEY IL GET THEM TO YA. HAHAHAHA BUT I REALY AM GETTING SOME.

[blown96cobra]

OH OK I HAVE A SET OF 60 FOR YA I THINK IM GETTING SOME PARTS TODAY. IF U WU ME THE MONEY IL GET THEM TO YA. HAHAHAHA BUT I REALY AM GETTING SOME.

how about i just give you my 42s for em?

[331lx]

I have 60s and a 340 pump I should be covered there I hope to have mine tuned in about a month. My On3 kit has the slot for the meter I used my sct sensor there I hear there about the best.

[331lx]

Blown when are you expecting to have this beast back on dyno with all the bugs worked out

[blown96cobra]

within a month if all goes well

[blown96cobra]

I have 60s and a 340 pump I should be covered there I hope to have mine tuned in about a month. My On3 kit has the slot for the meter I used my sct sensor there I hear there about the best.

You could run e85 if you wanted to.

[blown96cobra]

I Would like to get this out before anyone says anything. The fact that this car did not make 500whp has absolutely zero to do with who tuned it. I took a mess of a car with alot of unknown problems and dropped it in mikes lap. He did a extremely good job unscrewing the mess and making the car right. The issues that its having now are strictly from the tq converter and a non boost referenced fuel pressure regulator, its nothing that Mike or anyone has done wrong.

[331lx]

You could run e85 if you wanted to.

E85 is currently in tank lol.

[90fastgt]

I have e85 in my tank but I think its getting drained an going back to 93