Those with Concealed Carry in Ohio

[Black92LX]

Get yourself on the phone and e-mail to your reps.
A couple of votes are coming up in regards to allowing Concealed Carry in establishments that serve alcohol.
http://www.capwiz.com/buckeyefirearms/issues/alert/?alertid=45805541&PROCESS=Take+Action

[Bman]

Already took care of that.

[Pops Fun]

Done yesterday.. my rep is anti... but sent anyway

[facemelter71]

Streaming it now.

http://www.ohiochannel.org/Index.aspx?liveStreamId=3

[Pops Fun]

Been watching for a while... getting sick of it!! Hope they vote soon!!

Steve

[Pops Fun]

Off to the Senate... 56Y, 39N!!

[Mustard]

Off to the Senate... 56Y, 39N!!

Good deal!

[cstreu1026]

I am not sure how I feel about being able to carry in bars but I will be happy to get rid of the stupid restrictions on carrying in a car.

[djom1cincy]

I see no problems with carrying anywhere by a responsible person. Will there be people who break the law? Sure but there most likely doing it anyway. I'm most happy that I'll be able to carry in restaurants.

[cstreu1026]

Well I rarely find myself in a bar these days so its not really an issue for me anyways.

[facemelter71]

This law does not allow the current CHL holder to drink with a firearm. This allows the CHL holded to enjoy an evening at a restaurant of his choosing while being able to rightfully and intelligently defend himself and his family should some thing happen.

[Pitbull1052]

K I have serious issues with this, I don't currently have a CCL but I have in the past and I can honestly say that I've never ever had or even ran across an instance while eating dinner out that I felt the need to be armed.


Now when I go out to eat with my family that i'll have to be worrying about what idiot is packn heat. I'm totally o.k. with our rights to bare arms, but really do you need to carry in a family restaraunt? One of the reason's i'm saying this is a buddy of mine just got his conceal and carry.

Now granted this is my buddy he's a member of this site and i'm not saying anything he hasnt said about himself. He's an idiot and do I really want an idiot packn heat just because he can into the same restaraunt that i'm eating at with my 4 girls.


again I just don't understand the need to in a restaraunt.....

[89notch]

Well I rarely find myself in a bar these days so its not really an issue for me anyways.

Its not really bars thats an issue for me. Its Chipotle and similar restaurants that I hate not being able to carry in. I just hate taking it off and locking it in the car.

[Timido]

X2 I would rather have responsible citizen eating dinner with a firearm than a gun in the car to get stolen

[cstreu1026]

Its not really bars thats an issue for me. Its Chipotle and similar restaurants that I hate not being able to carry in. I just hate taking it off and locking it in the car.

Agreed. I have no issue with carrying in resturaunts at all. Its the idea of people going to a bar, one that doesn't serve food, and carrying a gun. Sure the law forbids drinking and carrying a concealed weapon but laws also forbid criminals from having guns and how well does that work? Of course if the law forbid weapons in drinking establishments there is nothing really keeping someone from carrying anyways.

[facemelter71]

Its not really bars thats an issue for me. Its Chipotle and similar restaurants that I hate not being able to carry in. I just hate taking it off and locking it in the car.

DO they have a sign on the door? If they serve just beer,then its not a D liquor license and you can carry in there.

[89notch]

DO they have a sign on the door? If they serve just beer,then its not a D liquor license and you can carry in there.

Class D permits are generally issued to an establishment that sells alcohol or consumption on the premises.

You would have to research what type of permit they have to know if your allowed to carry. They could only serve beer but might have a d permit.

[facemelter71]

I was mistaken. The only one I can find on the list in the one on RT4. They have a D1-D3-D6. So im going to say that is what all of them have. Sucks. It will change anyway.

[MustangChuck]

K I have serious issues with this, I don't currently have a CCL but I have in the past and I can honestly say that I've never ever had or even ran across an instance while eating dinner out that I felt the need to be armed.


Now when I go out to eat with my family that i'll have to be worrying about what idiot is packn heat. I'm totally o.k. with our rights to bare arms, but really do you need to carry in a family restaraunt? One of the reason's i'm saying this is a buddy of mine just got his conceal and carry.

Now granted this is my buddy he's a member of this site and i'm not saying anything he hasnt said about himself. He's an idiot and do I really want an idiot packn heat just because he can into the same restaraunt that i'm eating at with my 4 girls.


again I just don't understand the need to in a restaraunt.....


I can understand all that. However, think about this: do you think that "bad guys" care that it's a "family restaurant"? Heck, that might even be a target for them because they feel that no one will be able to stop him.

[05yellowgt]

Agreed. I have no issue with carrying in resturaunts at all. Its the idea of people going to a bar, one that doesn't serve food, and carrying a gun. Sure the law forbids drinking and carrying a concealed weapon but laws also forbid criminals from having guns and how well does that work? Of course if the law forbid weapons in drinking establishments there is nothing really keeping someone from carrying anyways.
Chances are, the idiot that is carrying a gun to a bar, has been, without a permit, and is drinking anyway.

[05yellowgt]

I see the right to bare arms sort of like the cold war. Just like Neither us or the Russians would fire nukes at each other due to mutually assured destruction, if everyone has a gun then the baddies that have theirs illegally anyway, will think twice before pulling theirs out with ill intents.

[Pitbull1052]

I can understand all that. However, think about this: do you think that "bad guys" care that it's a "family restaurant"? Heck, that might even be a target for them because they feel that no one will be able to stop him.



Yea I saw a ton of "bad guys" outside of Carrabba's this past friday.....

[mad max]

The world is a much scarier place then it was ten years ago . With all the law enforcement cuts and so on , i believe if you wanna carry a gun , that should be your right. I believe its one of the freedoms that if we dont fight for , could go away very easily.

[djom1cincy]

Yea I saw a ton of "bad guys" outside of Carrabba's this past friday.....

It's not the bad guys you see that you have to worry about.

[bangingears]

Yea I saw a ton of "bad guys" outside of Carrabba's this past friday.....


ok well when someone tries to rape or shoots your daughter or wife, I will walk away because you feel its unneccessary to carry at food/spirit establishments. You ever go downtown to eat? you ever go to a bank or ATM? I feel if you carry, you should carry in high percentages. If not, keep the gun at home.

[Pitbull1052]

ok well when someone tries to rape or shoots your daughter or wife, I will walk away because you feel its unneccessary to carry at food/spirit establishments. You ever go downtown to eat? you ever go to a bank or ATM? I feel if you carry, you should carry in high percentages. If not, keep the gun at home.




I worked downtown for about 10 years so yes I do and have and I'm also a combat vetran as in an actual combat soldier I didnt sit behind a desk or what ever so there arent many things I don't catch or see as I'm aware of my surroundings at all times. I doubt that someone will try and rap and or shoot any of my daughters at a family restaraunt. See the difference is you all are scared of what might happen. What could happen. I'd like to see a report of one instance where any one of you, not a story out of the paper or off the net but you physically saw something happen at a family restaraunt that you thought man if i had my peice i could have taken care of this situation.........

[facemelter71]

I worked downtown for about 10 years so yes I do and have and I'm also a combat vetran as in an actual combat soldier I didnt sit behind a desk or what ever so there arent many things I don't catch or see as I'm aware of my surroundings at all times. I doubt that someone will try and rap and or shoot any of my daughters at a family restaraunt. See the difference is you all are scared of what might happen. What could happen. I'd like to see a report of one instance where any one of you, not a story out of the paper or off the net but you physically saw something happen at a family restaraunt that you thought man if i had my peice i could have taken care of this situation.........

Scared??? No.
Prepared??? YES.

But its ok,you dont have to like it.No one is making you carry anything anywhere.

[bangingears]

I worked downtown for about 10 years so yes I do and have and I'm also a combat vetran as in an actual combat soldier I didnt sit behind a desk or what ever so there arent many things I don't catch or see as I'm aware of my surroundings at all times. I doubt that someone will try and rap and or shoot any of my daughters at a family restaraunt. See the difference is you all are scared of what might happen. What could happen. I'd like to see a report of one instance where any one of you, not a story out of the paper or off the net but you physically saw something happen at a family restaraunt that you thought man if i had my peice i could have taken care of this situation.........


also, some might not be as military minded as you. You have also been accustomed to working in higher confrontational areas, some have not. Also some people (older, disabled, etc) are not able to physical defend themselves.

[Pitbull1052]

also, some might not be as military minded as you. You have also been accustomed to working in higher confrontational areas, some have not. Also some people (older, disabled, etc) are not able to physical defend themselves.




I agree with being able to carry I just don't see the need to in a family joint is all i'm saying. I agree with that it might be more dangerous locking it up in your car as well. I also know that most that carry have never been in a situation where they will actually have to use the deadly force to defend themselves which isnt as easy as most make it out to be.

Shooting a person is a whole lot different than shooting a paper target. With that being said now not only will i have to be aware of the "bad guys" now I have to worry about the "good guys" who might miss with their "9" and now i've got a high velocity round hitting one of my girls or someone elses child maybe one of yours. God forbid for all of us when that happens...

[05yellowgt]

I don't have a problem with people owning cars. What I have a problem with is people driving them in my neighborhood. How I have to worry about someone hitting me or one of my children with their 3,000lb Impala who might miss the white lines on the road and drive onto the sidewalk.


My point is, there are many things, that if done legally that can potentially cause a HUGE danger to my family. Much more so than the chances that a law abiding citizen with a CCW that carries into a restaurant and due to any number of circumstances will pull his fire arm and a stray bullet ends up injuring a member of my family.

[nsaniti]

I see the right to bare arms sort of like the cold war. Just like Neither us or the Russians would fire nukes at each other due to mutually assured destruction, if everyone has a gun then the baddies that have theirs illegally anyway, will think twice before pulling theirs out with ill intents.

works fairly well in Arizona. :] wild wild west here.

[Black92LX]

Agreed. I have no issue with carrying in resturaunts at all. Its the idea of people going to a bar, one that doesn't serve food, and carrying a gun. Sure the law forbids drinking and carrying a concealed weapon but laws also forbid criminals from having guns and how well does that work? Of course if the law forbid weapons in drinking establishments there is nothing really keeping someone from carrying anyways.

Comparing Criminals to Concealed Carry holders who have gone the extra steps to get the proper training and get their background check just to prove they are not criminals is in no way apples to oranges. There is a HUGE difference.


I agree with being able to carry I just don't see the need to in a family joint is all i'm saying. I agree with that it might be more dangerous locking it up in your car as well. I also know that most that carry have never been in a situation where they will actually have to use the deadly force to defend themselves which isnt as easy as most make it out to be.


I will refer you to my signature line for my opinion of concealed carry.

But there are also those that have had to use their weapons in self defense or the defense of others. The rub is you don't know where or when things might break bad.

I carry at least one gun no matter where I go or what I am doing. Have I had to use them, yes!
Did I enjoy it no, but I pretty sure the young lady getting bricks thrown at her was very happy I was carrying at a family establishment that day.

[mad max]

When we used to go to bike week every year , i always went with a group of state troopers from the local post . Ive never seen so many guns. We never had any problems , but i would have felt sorry for the person who did try to rob us.

[Black92LX]

I worked downtown for about 10 years so yes I do and have and I'm also a combat vetran as in an actual combat soldier I didnt sit behind a desk or what ever so there arent many things I don't catch or see as I'm aware of my surroundings at all times. I doubt that someone will try and rap and or shoot any of my daughters at a family restaraunt. See the difference is you all are scared of what might happen. What could happen. I'd like to see a report of one instance where any one of you, not a story out of the paper or off the net but you physically saw something happen at a family restaraunt that you thought man if i had my peice i could have taken care of this situation.........

Carrying concealed is about being prepared. I have never had a home of mine, close friends, or relatives catch fire yet I still have smoke detectors.
And yes I have been in multiple situations where a firearm was needed at a Family establishment. Does not mean it needed to be fired but a visual is a very good deterrent to most.

[Katmandu]

A couple of votes are coming up in regards to allowing Concealed Carry in establishments that serve alcohol.Great. :rolleyes: Just throw in a Poker Tournament and there'll be another OK Corral thing going on. :rolleyes:

[cstreu1026]

Great. :rolleyes: Just throw in a Poker Tournament and there'll be another OK Corral thing going on. :rolleyes:

When did you become a gun hating liberal?

Seriously though that is the sort of argument the gun grabbers have tried to make against concealed carry laws in every state that allows it and the numbers just don't support it.

[Black92LX]

When did you become a gun hating liberal?

Seriously though that is the sort of argument the gun grabbers have tried to make against concealed carry laws in every state that allows it and the numbers just don't support it.

Kentucky has allowed firearms in alcohol establishments for many years now. We have no major problems with it.

[cstreu1026]

Kentucky has allowed firearms in alcohol establishments for many years now. We have no major problems with it.

I remember them allowing it in restaurants that served alcohol but they allow in bars too?

[RIXXX93GT]

Id much rather eat in a restaurant in KY full of gun toting folks than a room full of smokers!

[cstreu1026]

Id much rather eat in a restaurant in KY full of gun toting folks than a room full of smokers!

In Kentucky you get both.

[Black92LX]

I remember them allowing it in restaurants that served alcohol but they allow in bars too?
We have the Saloon or 51% rule. If an establishment makes 51% or more of their profits from alcohol one cannot carry there.


In Kentucky you get both.
There are a few counties with smoking bans.

[Katmandu]

When did you become a gun hating liberal?

Seriously though that is the sort of argument the gun grabbers have tried to make against concealed carry laws in every state that allows it and the numbers just don't support it.I'm not. Actually taught NRA Hunter Safety classes starting at age 12.

Just stating simple facts, guns, alcohol and playing poker don't usually go well together. Makes for great movies though! :D

[05yellowgt]

I feel as if a gun fiight at a casino is going to break out, its going to happen with someone without a CCW anyway. There are bad eggs out there, but if I have a CCW and a gun registered to my name I am not going to use that gun to purposefully commit a crime. I'm going to use a gun that isn't registered to me. I'm probably smarter than the average criminal though.