Mach slow

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Well this section is usually pretty dead, so ill make a build thread for myself. Its not much of a build, just a lot of bolt ons. Ill update this as I slowly make progress.

Im trying to make as much power n/a as possible on a tight budget, and go 12.5s or better. So far this is what im trying to do
-K&N CAI
-Ported intake
-full exhaust
-possible 1/2 intake spacer
-possible 96-98 Cobra cams or custom grind
-tune
-frpp 03/04 Cobra diff
-aluminum driveshaft/loop
-31 spline axles
-4.10 gear, are the motive or richmond the good gears?
-275/40/17 drag radials

Im hoping to make around 320rwhp, if I do either cams then more like 340+rwhp.

On my budget this is probably as much or more than I can do this summer. So far all I have is the exhaust and the CAI, im working on tires right now. Im also thinking abut taking some weight out of the pig

[Squale iii]

Drivermod?

[foureyed86]

Drivermod?

:popcorn:

[2007ShelbyCobra]

I would certainly imagine with all I listed I could take off about 1/2 second from my current time slip,
but I should just scrap my car and buy an ls1 camaro though right?

[redfirepearlgt]

The FRPP are the ones that worked for my 02 so well. According to sources the Motives like to make some noise on ratios above 373. Know nothing about Richmond. 410 is a great gear for that car. May be wasting money on 31 splines though if only running drag radials. I'd get an experts opinion though and go on that. The money could be put else where (like an alum DS) if 31's might be considered overkill unless more serious changes are in the making in the near future. JMO. Good luck.

[Blkcobra01]

Id go 430 gears I got 373s and wish I would have went 430s, ran out of money snapped an axle in the IRS had a new st of 373's for my fox so just used em in the cobra. Definately no lower than 410's though, do you already have a CAI if not Id look into JLT. I have heard on www.svtperformance.com that the upper intake spacers work well for the Mach's and have been looking into them myself, not sure if porting the upper intakes on these or even 99-01 Cobras help or see as much of a gain as 96-98 Cobras, also possibly look into some upper and lower control arms.

[Kevin1989]

I think your goal of 320 is easily possible... my buddy had a mach with full exhaust and an intake and after a tune it put down 326. the long tubes apparently help thoes cars alot!

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Thanks for the input

I know the 31 splines may be a bit overkill, but I dont want to be one of the horror stories that broke the stock axles on drag radials. As far as the intake spacer, id say it would help on the 01 Cobra as well. Theres arguments about them doing little to nothing, but some people swear by them. It costs 100 dollars, its worth a shot. Idk what a full k member with control arms runs, but if I was going to replace that, I should have done it during the header install :doh:

[Marker1989]

The guy I bought my drag radials off of had a bone stock mach 1, He went 12.6 with just those drag radials.. Just sayin lol

[Kevin1989]

^it had an h pipe :lol:

[Marker1989]

There ya go Shelbykid, all you need is an h pipe n 275/17 BFG's to meet your goals :lol:

[Blkcobra01]

Ive heard of 12s with full exhaust 430s and drag radials to, A tubular K-member and A-arms will drop like 26lbs off the front end of the car which would help some shaving weight off it.

[cstreu1026]

The 31 spline axels are not over kill. If you settle for 4.10's get nothing but FRPP gears. They really don't cost any more and as long as you don't have a complete idiot set them up they should be quiet. However, the 4.30's would be a better choice. Don't fear the gear.

[JIMS SVT]

Just do 456's.Best gear for that car.

[Yellow98Cobra]

I am doing 4.30's as soon as it gets nice out. Can't wait to see the difference between them a 3.73's.

[Yellow98Cobra]

I may have some cobra cams for sale here shortly. I will hit you with a pm if I do.

[Kevin1989]

I may have some cobra cams for sale here shortly. I will hit you with a pm if I do.

you trying to make that thing fast eric?:eek:

[Yellow98Cobra]

you trying to make that thing fast eric?:eek:

Nope. Just having fun. All depends if we sell our place in the next month or so. If we don't then might try to make it faster.

[Kevin1989]

Still in mason?

[babiixoxbritty]

wanna do a eaton swap?

[Squale iii]

Thanks for the input

I know the 31 splines may be a bit overkill, but I dont want to be one of the horror stories that broke the stock axles on drag radials. As far as the intake spacer, id say it would help on the 01 Cobra as well. Theres arguments about them doing little to nothing, but some people swear by them. It costs 100 dollars, its worth a shot. Idk what a full k member with control arms runs, but if I was going to replace that, I should have done it during the header install :doh:

Or....you could just throw tires on it and not replace something until it breaks?

[Squale iii]

I would certainly imagine with all I listed I could take off about 1/2 second from my current time slip,
but I should just scrap my car and buy an ls1 camaro though right?

That would be the smart thing to do in all honesty.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

That would be the smart thing to do in all honesty.

keep it up and ill start waving at you when you drive by my shop, then ill tell all the employees your my best friend.

[babiixoxbritty]

if you did a eaton swap then people would fear you. i got everything you need. trade you even.

[Squale iii]

keep it up and ill start waving at you when you drive by my shop, then ill tell all the employees your my best friend.

You work at the 10 min oil change on Alex? Anybody there own anything remotely fast?

[2007ShelbyCobra]

You work at the 10 min oil change on Alex? Anybody there own anything remotely fast?

I have a slow mustang, manager has a slow f 150, the others... 15 speed pedal bikes

[2007ShelbyCobra]

if you did a eaton swap then people would fear you. i got everything you need. trade you even.

nah, I would, but if I ever sc it, id get forged internals to make it worth my time. Is this Jesse?

[Squale iii]

I have a slow mustang, manager has a slow f 150, the others... 15 speed pedal bikes

I forgot about your work until I was passing it today and dropped it to 1st at 35mph lol

[2007ShelbyCobra]

I forgot about your work until I was passing it today and dropped it to 1st at 35mph lol

:flipoff: damnit, today was my day off. I drove by and talked to the other employees today, and they told me all about it.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Put the intake on

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[2007ShelbyCobra]

tires are on, waiting for my tax return then doing a tune.

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[DNTRYIT]

good looking Mach 1

[2007ShelbyCobra]

got some 98 Cobra cams thanks to Yellow98Cobra. Now im working on that instal, while im in there im getting a 3/8 intake spacer, and debating porting the stock intake. I will also have the Cobra cams degreed

[2007ShelbyCobra]

threads still here. The way it sits:

-Shifter
-QA1 k member, stock a arms (or fox, not sure yet)
-Mac long tubes, lethal o/r x, and magnaflow cat back
-Moderate custom ground cam
-3/8 intake spacer
-K&N cai
-probably a ported upper intake, we'll see how the initial dyno numbers go.

Here is a pic of the motor, just got it back today from a friend I had do the work. The cams were degreed but I dont know the exact specs

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Over the winter ill be working on getting some good rubber for the rear, adjustable upper and lower control arms, figure out the front suspension, it has cut springs and I dont want them on the car for long. Also a 4.10 gear in the bullet proof stock rear end :rolleyes:

[Blkcobra01]

Nice what you think its going to put down 325-330?

[Goober]

The Blue Broom will ride again?

[2007ShelbyCobra]

based off what other Machs put down with the same mods, 350 rwhp should be the baseline. If it doesnt do that ill be pissed.

just cleaned the motor up today, took out the sway bar. It was sprinkling rain today so I didnt try to figure out the k member like I wanted. It sits in the garage but has to be rolled out for room to work

Better pic, its gonna look pretty under the hood
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[SN95N/A]

So what did u take off a year on it then get back to it?

[2007ShelbyCobra]

So what did u take off a year on it then get back to it?

first off, had major issues putting in the Cobra cams which was the original plan. Found out I had a head gasket issue so pulled the motor. Starting thinking about a turbo kit, bought parts, lost interest, sold parts lol. Then talked a lot with a local guy about the cams, and figured ill have a nice idle and good performance, so thats what i went with. Im not currently in school and working full time so the budget is a lot better.
The game plan is get it running. This winter get suspension parts and any little things I want to change. Shooting for 11.9xs next season. When the rear end goes or i get money then go with big gear 31 spline set up.

[redfirepearlgt]

Can't wait to hear this thing. Lookin forward to it.

[SN95N/A]

Sounds interesting.

[Blkcobra01]

Post up a video when it's running I would like to hear it nice build man.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

whats everyones thoughts on selling my stock Mach 1 front and rear seats? Ive thought about it, they are worth a decent chunk of change... but then ill never have them, and if I ever sell the car it will be a huge turnoff.. :dunno:

[SN95N/A]

I would keep them they make the car!!

[chris91]

Yeah definitely keep the seats. Its something special to the Mach. Same story with mine having special seats being a Anniversary Edition. Id love to go with some Terminator seats but then Im taking away from the uniqueness that makes it a limited edition.

[Goober]

If they're IUP then bag & tag 'em.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

screw me... need a new heater hose, $69 for a 6" hose...

[redfirepearlgt]

Junk yard????? Pull-n-pay???

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Okay, got the motor in tonight. It took THREE HOURS.... worst thing ever. Very long story ill write up tomorrow. Lesson learned, never using QA1 again


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[2007ShelbyCobra]

So what happened is; I attempted to run a QA1 k member with STOCK a arms and figured id use the stock hardware. Im not because, #1 the k member was pretty cheapo made, #2 the hardware to be used in the control arms had to be so small it would be stupid, #3 it changes my suspension geometry and cause the wheels to stick out about an inch more on each side and lowers the car an inch, so its a pita the find the correct springs for the front to lower how I want. In the process of getting it in and out with one person, I had only 1 side attached and let it hang with the weight of the k member itself on it, and it actually slightly bent the tab that bolts go through.. (pics later)

That being said, I was gonna sell it in the spring and get coilovers anyways, so its not a huge order.

Why it took 3 hours is I didnt know you cant/its next to impossible to instal the engine with long tube headers already on it. I know it can be done with an after market k member, but shit, the headers were caught and dragging all over the stock k member and causing all sorts of problems. The motor was tilted up then down, then headers rubbed the k member, engine bay, floor pans... :mad: Its in though, so im happy

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Got some of the accessories on, and a fair amount of misc work that needed done. The main time I have to work on it is at night, so its going in baby steps :)

http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr105/2007ShelbyCobra/SDC12586_zps93c9a13a.jpg

[ojsherbergt]

good luck should run good next summer

[2007ShelbyCobra]

baby steps :( got a 2nd spare and a firewall adjuster. Im going to attempt to run two spares up front at the track.

Just fitted the intake and all accessories

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[na svt]

-Moderate custom ground cam

The cams were degreed but I dont know the exact specs

Cam are custom grinds (close to comp 106100 specs) and are installed at 108/113 if I remember correctly. I prefer them being installed a little wider but Ben wanted a rough idle. These exact cams have been installed in two other combos and bot are making 360rwhp with only LTs and a CAI.

Ben, the harness that goes to the #1 injector and a/c has to be routed under the intake manifold. I may be out of the area on Sunday, but if you're available saturday evening I can bring the car down for you to check out.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

alright. I have everything finger tight right now as far as the intake. I need to look at another Mach for a few things on the wiring harness and a couple brackets.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Ford... :( $100 for the lower intake gasket. Jeez. Got some needed info on running the wiring harness, so im hoping to have everything wrapped up in the engine bay wednesday, and bleed the brakes. Then sunday trans/clutch instal and fluids, then ill try to start it up!

[2007ShelbyCobra]

wrapped up the motor tonight. Had a major hang out with the brake lines. They were bent during removal and it took me like 2 hours to get all the lines and master cylinder on... Sunday is going to be the planned start up date. Cut the springs a coil in front, as you can see it sits a lot lower than stock.

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[mad max]

Good to see you getting it back together ben. I know its been a long process , but it will be worth it in the end.

[winner70ta]

You're almost there Ben! Talked briefly with your Pop yesterday and he said that you were close. Hopefully all will be good when you start her up.

[SVT Supra]

Well this section is usually pretty dead, so ill make a build thread for myself. Its not much of a build, just a lot of bolt ons. Ill update this as I slowly make progress.

Im trying to make as much power n/a as possible on a tight budget, and go 12.5s or better. So far this is what im trying to do
-K&N CAI
-Ported intake
-full exhaust
-possible 1/2 intake spacer
-possible 96-98 Cobra cams or custom grind
-tune
-frpp 03/04 Cobra diff
-aluminum driveshaft/loop
-31 spline axles
-4.10 gear, are the motive or richmond the good gears?
-275/40/17 drag radials

Im hoping to make around 320rwhp, if I do either cams then more like 340+rwhp.


I have a very nice set of 98 Cobra cams for sale if you're interested.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Thanks SVT Supra, but ive since changed plans and went with a much more aggressive cam

[2007ShelbyCobra]

So...what a living hell last night, and really all day today...

Attempted to instal the transmission last night, and long story short,, its impossible to do with the headers on. With a lift maybe, but i couldnt get enough angle on it with the car on jack stands. So... attempted to remove the passenger side header (the starter slot on the transmission is what cause all the crazy rubbing/non fitment issues on this header). And after an hour of that, determined it was next to impossible... the last bolt closest to the firewall had 0 room to turn a wrench or get a ratchet on it. Sooo... heres what must be done

#1 remove stock k member (which was never supposed to be used but had issues with the QA1 tubular)
#2 remove passenger side header
#3 reinstall k member (otherwise the motor wouldnt have nearly enough support)
#4 instal the transmission
#5 remove the k member again
#6 finally reinstall the header
#7 reinstall the k member for the final time....

:( total headache but idk what else to do. Come spring time with a new k member all these problems should be solved and tons more clearance around the engine

[9cobra4]

Lol dang Potter, if I lived closer I'd help you. Sounds like you're having a tough time.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

she runs! Still have a lot of bugs, but she runs. Started up after a few cranks and had great oil pressure. Got to temperature fine, and scared me when the fans kicked in (blew dust everywhere). Now also it should be noted, this is stock valve springs, so they limited the cam


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUoOoxMcWdE&feature=youtu.be

[SVT Supra]

Thanks SVT Supra, but ive since changed plans and went with a much more aggressive cam

No problem! Glad to hear you got her running and good luck with her.

[chris91]

Sounds pretty good. Sounds about like my stage two cams.

[SN95N/A]

Im limit myself to what I say on this site,but congrats man sounds great good luck with it!!

[2007ShelbyCobra]

driven it for 40 miles since first start. Runs pretty good, I had some idle issues and still do since it has a lazy O2 that needs replaced. Im waiting to get it tuned and im sure ill have plenty of vids shortly after. Got the hood on and shaker and its 98% wrapped up.

[Blkcobra01]

Congrats I deffinately want to see a vid of it.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

took it to Precision Autosports today on a last minute (actually 35 minute notice :) ) call and had it tuned. Made 356 rwhp, 339 rwtq. I will have dyno sheet and vid posted later. Im pretty happy with that. I took it off the highway and was making pulls 20 minutes later, also didn't install my 90mm maf yet. Should make 360, maybe a hair more cool with the maf

[SN95N/A]

Did you see my car there

[2007ShelbyCobra]

Did you see my car there

silver Cobra? Yes, I do believe, it was under a cover, had the tie rods hangin down?

[SN95N/A]

Thats her lol.. Reminds me I need to call them tomarow.. Good #'s

[2007ShelbyCobra]

My camera died on the 3rd pull, first pull that I filmed, ill post a pic of the graph because you cant see clearly in the video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CM6eaxvkmk&feature=youtu.be

[redfirepearlgt]

awesome numbers ben. glad to see that car finally road worthy again. Try not to get any more tickets...LOL!

[2007ShelbyCobra]

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[9cobra4]

A set of sticky tires and 4:30's and you should go DEEP 12's or squeak a 11.9X.

[jeep45238]

Missing a lot of suspension work on that list.

Gotta hook it to make it work.

[2007ShelbyCobra]

not much of an update but bought another set of tires. For some stupid reason I sold the ones I had with only 400 miles :( .... These are for the street, not the stickies

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[2007ShelbyCobra]

Just bought wheels today at the Super Swap. I had it at E20 yesterday, this was my best time on the tires posted above. I also had 100 pds in the trunk to control the spinning

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Im car 182
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[2007ShelbyCobra]

test fit the wheels today, complete PITA! Had to grind the crap out of a socket to fit into the wheel lug slots (Summit Racing Fast Five) and then extensive grinding on the banjo bolt. But they clear, ill just have to see whether or no the 1/4s are gonna need rolled with 28x10.5s

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