So car is paided off...

[highmileage4.6]

Let the mods begin!Possiblity of having a 5.4 motor in my hands soon was curious how hard it is to swap this motor in a 96 gt 5 speed car?I know you have to swap out the intakes i have a 4.6 pi intake alrdy havent put it on is there anyway of mating this up? or because of the 5.4's width is it not possible?and help would be appreceated,was planning on useing the org wiring harness

[94tchikinv8]

The 5.4 isn't really worth it for an N/A car, especially in SOHC form. Get an 02-05 PI Explorer engine. They have the PI heads and an aluminum block that will drop about 90 lbs off the front end. Put a set of cams in it ( www.modularheadshop.com ) budget permitting, and ported heads and headers if you can. Then have it tuned and 3.73s or 4.10s installed in the rear end. That will make for a really fun street car.

I have an 02 Explorer engine with comp 262 cams in my 98 GT vert. It weighs about 3350 lbs without me in it now. My brother raced it late last year while his car was down and ran a best of 13.89 at a little over 100 mph. That was with stock 2.73 gears and like a 2.1 or 2.2 60 foot. It will have 3.73s eventually and should be quite a bit quicker with a better 60.

-Ro

[mustangboy]

Put a windsor in it!!

[cstreu1026]

The 5.4 isn't really worth it for an N/A car, especially in SOHC form. Get an 02-05 PI Explorer engine. They have the PI heads and an aluminum block that will drop about 90 lbs off the front end. Put a set of cams in it ( www.modularheadshop.com ) budget permitting, and ported heads and headers if you can. Then have it tuned and 3.73s or 4.10s installed in the rear end. That will make for a really fun street car.

I have an 02 Explorer engine with comp 262 cams in my 98 GT vert. It weighs about 3350 lbs without me in it now. My brother raced it late last year while his car was down and ran a best of 13.89 at a little over 100 mph. That was with stock 2.73 gears and like a 2.1 or 2.2 60 foot. It will have 3.73s eventually and should be quite a bit quicker with a better 60.

-Ro

Agreed. Explorer engine, cams, long tubes, 4.10's (don't bother with 3.73's), and a tune. The car will be 80lbs lighter and should make enough power to run deep in to the 12's.

[HawksWR37]

The 5.4s look so much better in the engine bay though :) its not that difficult to stuff it in there. there is a lot of info out there on corral and places like that. 5.0 magazine did a write up on it. if you google 5.4 swap it should pop up. hell i wrote a paper in my english class at wright state about going with a 5.4 over the 4.6 if you wanna read it :D

[orangeconv]

I got a 5.4 2v intake ill sell you.

[HawksWR37]

what intake do you have?

[orangeconv]

Truck intake

[highmileage4.6]

yeah was just thinking more cubes more power i guess i almost had the pi heads to go with the pi intake i got,it was a buddys of mines brother explorer i got the intake from he blew it not changeing the oil:( the heads were trashed broke the little web castings that go over top of the cams and wiped out the stands i guess u could call them where the cams go gave me the intake for helping him put the new motor in.Getting the 5.4 from an expedition that was totalled out from a tree falling on it,ive seen some of the builds was just wondering if it would be a cheap build since i would be getting the motor for free

[orangeconv]

I think your going the right direction, maybe try yo find some high compression pistons for a 5.4

[HawksWR37]

yeah was just thinking more cubes more power i guess i almost had the pi heads to go with the pi intake i got,it was a buddys of mines brother explorer i got the intake from he blew it not changeing the oil:( the heads were trashed broke the little web castings that go over top of the cams and wiped out the stands i guess u could call them where the cams go gave me the intake for helping him put the new motor in.Getting the 5.4 from an expedition that was totalled out from a tree falling on it,ive seen some of the builds was just wondering if it would be a cheap build since i would be getting the motor for free

if you use your stock parts its not that expensive.

[NXcoupe]

Another vote for a 4.6 out of an explorer. Nothing against Hawks project, it's cool as can be, but I've seen the power comparisons between the two and it just doesn't seem worth it in an n/a application with all stuff stock in the long blocks. I did an explorer swap and tuned it for Plated a while back, and he was very happy with the results. The car was fast, had plenty of power and it was a pretty straightforward swap as far as the engine for engine goes. We also put a 5 speed swap in it, that took more work, but has nothing to do with the engine.
jmho.

[cstreu1026]

Another option to throw out there that will be more money but more power would be to get a Cobra or Lincoln short block, either have the pistons notched for bigger cams or better yet install some TFS heads so you. Either of those will allow for much bigger cams and with the 4V shortblock you would still be loosing the 80 pounds from the aluminum block but you would also be upping the compression to about 11.5:1I think with ported PI heads ~330 RWHP would be possible and with the TFS heads I don't think 350-375 would be out of the question.

[03z06vette]

Put a windsor in it!!

x2:bigthumb

[highmileage4.6]

Well in that case anyone looking for a 5.4 ? came out of a totalled 05 expedtion tree fell on it like 50k on the clock? wouldnt mind finding a 4.6pi,let you all know more when it shows up will be here tommrow

[HawksWR37]

im very interested in it

[prosoccer2115]

What's your plan for the car? Budget? If you're looking to go FI I highly recommend the 4.6 over the 5.4. Does driveability matter? Hard to beat a positive displacement supercharger. Tons of torque everywhere without any drawbacks besides a slight hit to fuel mileage. Turbo system can give you all the power you want while acting like a completely stock car when you're just cruising.

If you're looking to stay NA 2v. MHS has some competitively priced ported heads for you along with Bullet Cams. Or you can step up to the TFS 2v head kit.

Personally I wouldn't waste my time on N/A. You can pick up a basic turbo system for $2500 or so. But different strokes for different folks. All depends on what you want out of your car

Either way have fun and do what you want!

[highmileage4.6]

Cool thanks for the info guys,flipping thing hasnt showed up yet hoping it will be here by weekends time

[Squale iii]

Just save your money and buy a terminator.

[highmileage4.6]

Possible to get my hands on a earlier linc 4v like 95 96 but didn't think the heads flowed good

[cstreu1026]

They flow a ton, especially for stock heads, but you had better plan on forced induction to really use them.

[highmileage4.6]

I've seen you guys talk about c heads and tumble ports what would be the best 4v head to get? dont know much about them from what i understand they made like four diffent castings?

[HawksWR37]

Whats the verdict on your plans?

[05yellowgt]

Well in that case anyone looking for a 5.4 ? came out of a totalled 05 expedtion tree fell on it like 50k on the clock? wouldnt mind finding a 4.6pi,let you all know more when it shows up will be here tommrow
Wait just a second. If you truely have a 5.4 out of an 05 expedition then you have a 3v with 9.8:1 compression and not a 2vpi 5.4. The swap would be more complicated, but the power difference between a pi 4.6 2v and a 5.4 3v with some mild mods could be quite substantial.

[highmileage4.6]

sorry guys for not being around an update i still havent gotten the motor bunch of bs coming down the line thats why i havent posted anything in a while moneys been tight sucks trying to build go fast car :(

[Blackout]

If I were you I would just buy a forged shortblock and go forced induction. I plan on running 20-psi this summer with some new heads and intake. But thats just me.

[HawksWR37]

im still interested in the 5.4 if you wanna get rid of it :)

[Racin Jason]

i could use that 5.4 if u still have it pm me

[highmileage4.6]

well just waiting to see if it turns up right now :( dont wanna get anybodys hopes up till i see it for myself

[prosoccer2115]

Can always bore out a 4.6 to 5.0...

Not cheap but different and fun :cool1:

[cstreu1026]

Can always bore out a 4.6 to 5.0...

Not cheap but different and fun :cool1:

Sleeving an aluminum block for a 3.70 bore is pretty darn expensive. The quote I got from Darton was $2200 for the machine work and sleeves. On the other hand a Boss 5.0 iron block is about $1350. The spray bore aluminum FR500 block is HUGE money though, about $4300.

[prosoccer2115]

Sleeving an aluminum block for a 3.70 bore is pretty darn expensive. The quote I got from Darton was $2200 for the machine work and sleeves. On the other hand a Boss 5.0 iron block is about $1350. The spray bore aluminum FR500 block is HUGE money though, about $4300.

Sounds about right. Actually your quote is a bit cheaper. Throw in some Hi comp pistons and a low boost Eaton(5 psi) on top... you got yourself a sweet little track runner

...just sayin lol

[cstreu1026]

High compression and a hEaton don't really mix all that well.

[Blackout]

High compression and a hEaton don't really mix all that well.

yeah if your going to being applying boost.... your engine needs to be stock compression or a little less.

[prosoccer2115]

High compression and a hEaton don't really mix all that well.

They actually mix great for a road race setup. Lots of torque for corner exit

[prosoccer2115]

yeah if your going to being applying boost.... your engine needs to be stock compression or a little less.

Depends on how you setup your car and what your goals are. If you're going for all out power obviously a low static compression works much better but there is a place for everything

[Blackout]

Depends on how you setup your car and what your goals are. If you're going for all out power obviously a low static compression works much better but there is a place for everything

who's not looking for all out power? lol