Cam Q

[INSANEBA]

So I'm kinda shopping around for a bumpstick for my car. I ran a TFS Stg1 in my last car and loved it. I have no problem with running that cam in the short bus, but was wondering if a stage 2 would work or would it be too big? I'm running a stock bottom end, and am hoping to land a set of P heads or maybe better, gt 40 upper and lower and stock rockers for now. What do yall think? Any ptv clearance issues? Too much lift?

[jack90gt]

The best thing to do is check ptvc....I ran a x cam on a stock piston and it worked but thats not to say it would for somebody else.....

[jad0087]

custom grind from bennett :)

[penceracing]

at one time to i ran a x-cam with a set of winsor heads and had no problems either.

[INSANEBA]

custom grind from bennett :)

Kinda a waste on a stock motor, I'll wait til my strokers done for that. Idk, I would like more lift, but if it's not feasable then a tfs stg 1 will do. Anyone else run one on a stock motor with p's?

[jack90gt]

My buddy in chicago runs the p heads with an F cam. Works awesome

[Pitbull1052]

My buddy in chicago runs the p heads with an F cam. Works awesome




Bob had a phead motor with an F cam and I was really surprised how well it ran

[blown96cobra]

I ran that tfs stage 2 with 1.7 rr in a gt40 aluminum head 306 i built a few years back i had no ptv clearance issues and it ran pretty decent i got about 6,000 rpms out of it, ive got a b cam in my 302 with iron gt40ps and it runs alot better and still pulls hard to about 5800 and the driveability is great , i would stick with the tfs1 it makes good power na and it loves a little boost, its a great all around cam. Whatever you decide make sure to get it tuned it makes all the difference in the world, my car made 255whp untuned and 280whp and 320rwtq after mike tuned it. Good luck and I hope this helps.

[INSANEBA]

Good point, I guess I have a lil time to decide on it. I just wanna make it a crisp lil set-up to beat around in for summer. Eventually i wanna get my stroker built and swap it in. Hell my girlfriend already wants me to build her a monster miata with the stock 5.0/t-5 lol.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

I'd stick with the Stage 1. It's like that cam was made for P heads. More lift won't necessarily benefit you anyways since you're probably at the limit of what those heads can flow with the Stage 1. Also remember that lift isn't the issue with piston to valve clearance, it's more about duration.

P heads, Stage 1, Victor Jr, 650 Holley and the usual supporting stuff and you've got a 12 second car all day long.

[penceracing]

or u could get a set of 65 289 h.o heads. i have those heads with a f-cam with a cobra intake and it runs awsome. just a suggestion if u want a street car

[jad0087]

Kinda a waste on a stock motor, I'll wait til my strokers done for that. Idk, I would like more lift, but if it's not feasable then a tfs stg 1 will do. Anyone else run one on a stock motor with p's?

thats what ive got on my stock block, and i wouldnt do it any other way other than an f cam, fully streetable before and after i turboed it, none of that "jumpyness" like some cams have, its 350 bucks tho...

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

or u could get a set of 65 289 h.o heads. i have those heads with a f-cam with a cobra intake and it runs awsome. just a suggestion if u want a street car

Those heads, unless they've been ported, flow less than P heads. The only advantage to running 289 heads are smaller combustion chambers so you get a little bump in compression. If you were to spend some money and port them and put bigger valves in them, they'd be decent street heads but by then you'd have enough in them to buy aluminum heads.

http://www.carbdford.com/tech/headflow.htm

[penceracing]

they have all the work u can do to them. they have the 1.94 1.60 valves, swirl cut port work on the intake and exhaust ports, bowl work and been resurfaced. they have also have the arp studs and guide plates with the 1.6 roller rockers. also the spring pockets have been cut to fit springs up to 600 lift. I think they are a very good heads.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Yeah once you do all that, of course they're pretty good. The thing about all that though, is if you damage a head it's a lot easier to find a replacement if you're running P's or GT40s. Once all that work has been done, it's a little pointless to compare it to another head since the work done changes everything.

[penceracing]

i found a set of the 65 289 heads on cl for 50.00 i thought about picking up another set of them.

[jack90gt]

Are those the hi-po heads with the 53cc chamber?????

[penceracing]

no they are 58cc chambers

[draggin50]

at one time to i ran a x-cam with a set of winsor heads and had no problems either.

It worked fine until the push rods got bent or it broke the rocker stud!!!

[draggin50]

I got a couple set of the 69/70 windsor heads for cheap if anyones looking. Both sets need completely redone.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

The Windors are decent heads but for the money you'll invest you could have some nice used aluminum heads. I have $800 in mine. They've worked great so far but i'd have more room to grow with something aftermarket.

[draggin50]

The Windors are decent heads but for the money you'll invest you could have some nice used aluminum heads. I have $800 in mine. They've worked great so far but i'd have more room to grow with something aftermarket.

Yeah thats true. I had a set on my old LX and it went 12.40s with a stock shortblock and a f cam carbed and a 5 speed. Went 10.90`s on a 250 shot and actually stayed together for about 10K miles. They are about the same as regular GT40 with smaller combustion chambers.

[penceracing]

the reason for mine breaking is because it jump time big time and then it bent everything

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

By the way, by "Windsor" i'm referring to the 351 Windsor heads, not the World Products Windsor heads. Mine are off a '70 Mach 1.

[jack90gt]

What do you want for a set of them Draggin?

[INSANEBA]

I chatted with Blown86LX lastnight for a while. He's got me hooked up on a complete GT40 motor. So I'm goin for the GT40 top end with a lil port matching and a Stg 1 cam. Hope to maybe see a 12 outta this combo for the li girlfriend...

[jack90gt]

Hell yeah bro...

[black90lx]

it should go 12's with no problem. depends on driver. lol

[Blowpastyou]

Glad you decided to stick with the stg-1, the stg-2 is a decent cam....But with the heads your talking about running the extra lift would be worthless. The stg 1 works. My buddies made killer power with a set of ported e7's and 1.7 rr's. cheap and easy.