gt500 blowing up on the dyno.

[djom1cincy]

Ouch:confused:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WgqdUr4zZ4

[INSANEBA]

OMG, I'd throw up. I know how he feels though, I watched my $5k motor melt down on the dyno on my nitrous bike back in october. It wasnt a $50k car, but still sickening none the less....

[adragon72]

Oh wow that sucks

[Kevin1989]

owwww . your right though i would probably vomit on the floor...

[orangeconv]

man i melted a few pistons in my 03 back in 05 and it was 13k by the time it was done. It was bad.

[Dirtyd0g]

Lol at the moron replies, these fools still think the asians build better cars....Then the chevy comments. That is worse. Chevy hasn't built a decent motor in over 10 years.
Alan

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

ddrhero
4 hours ago
if you're going to mod it up to 800 horses, why even buy the 500? the only difference between the 500 and the GT is an appearance package and a supercharger.

And suspension, and brakes, and interior, oh and pretty much the rest of the car. Oops.

[CNTLOSE]

Damn..I would be sick...and pissed

[Kevin1989]

And suspension, and brakes, and interior, oh and pretty much the rest of the car. Oops.

oh yea... and the motor! 4.6 compared to a 5.4 lol dumbasses

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

Lol at the moron replies, these fools still think the asians build better cars....Then the chevy comments. That is worse. Chevy hasn't built a decent motor in over 10 years.
Alan

:lol: Congrats you added your own ignorant reply. Chevy hasn't built a decent motor in ten years? really? Seems like there are quite a few lsx cars that would prove you wrong... Let me know if you are interested and I'll set that up for you:bigthumb

[Dirtyd0g]

:lol: Congrats you added your own ignorant reply. Chevy hasn't built a decent motor in ten years? really? Seems like there are quite a few lsx cars that would prove you wrong... Let me know if you are interested and I'll set that up for you:bigthumb

WTF are you smoking. I do admit I exclude corvettes. The rest of the fleet is trash. The 5.3 engines are constant troubles. They are in competition with chrysler on who can build a bigger fire hazard of a wiring system. I know what I deal with and chevy trucks and trail blazers are constantly broken. As fas as LSX goes if I knew what you were talking about I might try to agree with you, however torque alone does not make a decent motor. It has to survive that way. I hear a buddy of mine who works for chevrolet complaining that all he does is swap motors. The chevrolet R&D department has been slacking for years. I'm sure all that bailout money had to help.....
Alan

[dsmawd350]

LSx is the whole ls series of motors. :lol: at you saying corvettes are the only decent ones. ever since 1997 they havent stopped making badass motors. ls1, ls2,ls3, ls7,ls9 all of the ls based 5.3 and 6.0 truck motors are making 1000 hp on stock block and crank. open your eyes. not to mention all of the ls series motors being able to make 420+ hp with just a cam swap

[evil8]

Good Job, DirtyDog!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_s6Ofh7u9lF0/R2sh1DzWtZI/AAAAAAAAAlI/kyiG5HRP1jo/s400/retard.internet.jpg

[Blowpastyou]

ROFL,OMG, MY BFF LSX

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

WTF are you smoking. I do admit I exclude corvettes. The rest of the fleet is trash. The 5.3 engines are constant troubles. They are in competition with chrysler on who can build a bigger fire hazard of a wiring system. I know what I deal with and chevy trucks and trail blazers are constantly broken. As fas as LSX goes if I knew what you were talking about I might try to agree with you, however torque alone does not make a decent motor. It has to survive that way. I hear a buddy of mine who works for chevrolet complaining that all he does is swap motors. The chevrolet R&D department has been slacking for years. I'm sure all that bailout money had to help.....
Alan

Man I think you prove how retarded you are everytime you touch your key board! Like Chad said, how do you exclude vettes when they are built on the same engine platform? Did you ever think the trucks that you work on are always fucked up because you are the person working on them? Who is your buddy at GM? If he has a similar IQ to yours he is probably a lube tech... Call GM maybe you can help with the research for $16,700 a year they could pay you to sweep floors:flipoff:

[orangedemon331]

Maybe his buddy that works for GM that does all the engine swaps is the whole reason they are doing so many!! Dirtydog im a die hard ford fan but I cant remember GM making a POS V8, most that i have driven/owned you could literally beat the shit out of without worry!! :HYF:

[turbohatch]

ill put my little brothers 5.3 truck against any thing you got, dont knock the ls motors they all are the same base, corvette, truck, car....

[03z06vette]

WTF are you smoking. I do admit I exclude corvettes. The rest of the fleet is trash. The 5.3 engines are constant troubles. They are in competition with chrysler on who can build a bigger fire hazard of a wiring system. I know what I deal with and chevy trucks and trail blazers are constantly broken. As fas as LSX goes if I knew what you were talking about I might try to agree with you, however torque alone does not make a decent motor. It has to survive that way. I hear a buddy of mine who works for chevrolet complaining that all he does is swap motors. The chevrolet R&D department has been slacking for years. I'm sure all that bailout money had to help.....
Alan

:lol::popcorn:

[Dirtyd0g]

Man I think you prove how retarded you are everytime you touch your key board! Like Chad said, how do you exclude vettes when they are built on the same engine platform? Did you ever think the trucks that you work on are always fucked up because you are the person working on them? Who is your buddy at GM? If he has a similar IQ to yours he is probably a lube tech... Call GM maybe you can help with the research for $16,700 a year they could pay you to sweep floors:flipoff:

I likewise think you are retarded. I see everyone seems to have a different opinion of chevrolet engines. The 5.3's tend to have misc component and sensor problems from what I see. The mechanical problems with "chevrolet" engines in general I don't see much of, then again I don't work at a dealer. Make it personal thats funny. I am the idiot because I don't like chevrolet.....and on a ford oriented site no less. the whole lot of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You sir represent your pointless ignorant posting. First you say I made a reply to the video, which I did not I just put my opinion here. Now you doubt my work...all because I don't like chevrolet. Lets try to reason with that. I put 250,000 miles on my 4.6 when I removed it for excessive oil consumption. I put 235,000 miles on my 2.3 when it got dismantled because my buddy drove it up 471 at 50 miles per hour with 2 a/c units in the back in 5th gear wide open throttle, burning a hole in a piston. In the past I have put 380,000 miles on a 3.0 taurus engine when I scrapped the car for being wrecked in the back. Lets compare apples to apples. The 4.6 is a 95 so GM's counterpart would be the 305, put 250,000 miles on one of those without pulling the valve covers, just try. There is one at my buddies with 110,000 on it that appears to have broken a rocker arm or something valvetrain related.
The 2.3 is a 97 which would make it's counterpart the 2.2, I don't even need to go there 2.2's were junk lucky to last 60,000 miles before the head gasket went.
The 3.0 taurus would compare to the 3.1 which won't make it past 100,000 miles without water in the oil from the intake manifold gasket. Now try to back up what you say with real world figures. Mine make sense and you know not what you speaketh.
Alan

[Dirtyd0g]

Maybe his buddy that works for GM that does all the engine swaps is the whole reason they are doing so many!! Dirtydog im a die hard ford fan but I cant remember GM making a POS V8, most that i have driven/owned you could literally beat the shit out of without worry!! :HYF:

Huh, so now you feel like you should insult my friend who is working on warranty vehicles....I made my point and you made an insult to someone you don't even know....that's logical
Alan

[Metcalf Racing]

Well since I've personally owned 139 mustangs, I feel my knowledge is useful in this thread. lSX is better than anything Ford has ever had. We may have hope with these new 5.0's but we still need time to tell.

[jack90gt]

Well I have a 5.3 in my 2000 chevy silverado and it has 232,081 and never had the motor apart as I know cause I bought it from the original owner. So when you say the 5.3 motors are junk I would have to beg to differ. Like orange said I am a diehard ford guy but the chevys I did own I beat the hell out of and they kept going. Hell I had a 88 camaro banger car this summer and with a 305 with vortec heads and carbed and a 150 shot it went 12.30s so to say they are junk is an understatement... Just my .02.....

[Metcalf Racing]

I'll tell you what's junk it those 4.6 POS's. Get a little behind on an oil change and see what you've got.

[marauder]

Holy crap! Dang ol thang with BEWM!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e4/Jeff_Boomhauer.jpg/250px-Jeff_Boomhauer.jpg

[jack90gt]

Yeah metcalf you are right there they are junk... I agree 100 %....

[k062693w]

I got so caught up reading the Drama, I forgot to watch the video !!! LMAO

[NO SHOT]

LSX's and 5.0's are both awsome!!The lsx's just make more power easier I think..

[06V6Andrew]

I think the problem is that everyone is comparing the few LSX engines and ford v8's the owned or someone else owned. On the whole they all had extensive problems from electrical to mechanical. They both have faults and strengths. I think stock, the fords have always ran just a little better than chevy, but build a ford enigne and you will have to work on it. No point in getting into a heated discussion about nothing important. Lets be friends! :)

[Maximus]

Did anyone see the Baltimore/Pittsburgh game last night? WOW!!:bigthumb

[87stangbbb]

I'll tell you what's junk it those 4.6 POS's. Get a little behind on an oil change and see what you've got.
my buddy has a 2000 gt he's been beating on for 3 years with 0 engine or tranny problems. im planning on getting one after winter. just curious why you think their junk?give me some stuff to look out for.thanks

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

I likewise think you are retarded. I see everyone seems to have a different opinion of chevrolet engines. The 5.3's tend to have misc component and sensor problems from what I see. The mechanical problems with "chevrolet" engines in general I don't see much of, then again I don't work at a dealer. Make it personal thats funny. I am the idiot because I don't like chevrolet.....and on a ford oriented site no less. the whole lot of you should be ashamed of yourselves. You sir represent your pointless ignorant posting. First you say I made a reply to the video, which I did not I just put my opinion here. Now you doubt my work...all because I don't like chevrolet. Lets try to reason with that. I put 250,000 miles on my 4.6 when I removed it for excessive oil consumption. I put 235,000 miles on my 2.3 when it got dismantled because my buddy drove it up 471 at 50 miles per hour with 2 a/c units in the back in 5th gear wide open throttle, burning a hole in a piston. In the past I have put 380,000 miles on a 3.0 taurus engine when I scrapped the car for being wrecked in the back. Lets compare apples to apples. The 4.6 is a 95 so GM's counterpart would be the 305, put 250,000 miles on one of those without pulling the valve covers, just try. There is one at my buddies with 110,000 on it that appears to have broken a rocker arm or something valvetrain related.
The 2.3 is a 97 which would make it's counterpart the 2.2, I don't even need to go there 2.2's were junk lucky to last 60,000 miles before the head gasket went.
The 3.0 taurus would compare to the 3.1 which won't make it past 100,000 miles without water in the oil from the intake manifold gasket. Now try to back up what you say with real world figures. Mine make sense and you know not what you speaketh.
Alan

Man I'm pretty sure you are lost. At no point did I EVER compare GM to Ford. I make my living building and tuning Fords, as well as own several Ford and GM vehicles. The reply I was referring to was your post on here bashing GM, which you obviously know very little about. You said GM hasn't produced a decent engine in the past 10 years, LS series proves you wrong and ignorant :flipoff: You seem pretty confident that you are correct, you must have been the smartest kid on the short bus. Every manufacturer has problems, if this were not the case you wouldn't have dealer service centers. My occupation proves I am well informed of both FORD and GM vehicles. But keep up the good work man one day you MIGHT make minimum wage:eek:

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

I'll tell you what's junk it those 4.6 POS's. Get a little behind on an oil change and see what you've got.

Really man? Did you have to start this? You must not be getting enough attention at home:lol: On a side note my driveway looks great! Thanks again man. And I will need you to set up a couple races for me in a week or so...

[87stangbbb]

And I will need you to set up a couple races for me in a week or so...
in the snow?

[Dirtyd0g]

Man I'm pretty sure you are lost. At no point did I EVER compare GM to Ford. I make my living building and tuning Fords, as well as own several Ford and GM vehicles. The reply I was referring to was your post on here bashing GM, which you obviously know very little about. You said GM hasn't produced a decent engine in the past 10 years, LS series proves you wrong and ignorant :flipoff: You seem pretty confident that you are correct, you must have been the smartest kid on the short bus. Every manufacturer has problems, if this were not the case you wouldn't have dealer service centers. My occupation proves I am well informed of both FORD and GM vehicles. But keep up the good work man one day you MIGHT make minimum wage:eek:
Did you even read what I said. Being a professional tool bag who loves to start drama doesn't prove anything. I didn't come on here knocking your work but you think it is fair to knock mine. May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest your armpits. I never said those engines themselves were junk, in an entire setup the vehicles have problems. I am not fond of them despite your bickering and constant stupidity. Using cincy speed as a cover for your senseless ignorance is lame to say the least. We have all found Craigs posting humorous for years, stop trying to be like him you wannabe.
Alan

[marauder]

Did anyone see the Baltimore/Pittsburgh game last night? WOW!!:bigthumb

Missed it, but how bout this weather lately? My office is being cheap with their heat...been here since 6:45 and my damn fingers are frozen. It's sad when you must go to the bathroom with the sole purpose of washing your hands to warm them back up to operating tempreature. lol

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

Did you even read what I said. Being a professional tool bag who loves to start drama doesn't prove anything. I didn't come on here knocking your work but you think it is fair to knock mine. May the fleas of a 1000 camels infest your armpits. I never said those engines themselves were junk, in an entire setup the vehicles have problems. I am not fond of them despite your bickering and constant stupidity. Using cincy speed as a cover for your senseless ignorance is lame to say the least. We have all found Craigs posting humorous for years, stop trying to be like him you wannabe.
Alan

Once again you are too retarded to remember what you posted." Chevy hasn't made a decent engine in over 10 years" maybe that helps you out. Using a work reference to show my experience is lame? really? Hmmm seeing as I never start drama and by no means am I trying to be like Craig once again makes you confused. Accept the fact that you made an ignorant comment and STFU!

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

And I will need you to set up a couple races for me in a week or so...
in the snow?

I'm AWD and those guy race all year long:lol:

[87stangbbb]

lol. what kind of car you have?

[Dirtyd0g]

:lol: Congrats you added your own ignorant reply. Chevy hasn't built a decent motor in ten years? really? Seems like there are quite a few lsx cars that would prove you wrong... Let me know if you are interested and I'll set that up for you:bigthumb

See instead of making a sensible post to disagree you had to make drama. If you don't see that it is simply because you are an idiot.
A simple mechanical setup doesn't make a decent motor to me. All in all even if you slobbing all over chevy's knob about one motor their entire fleet doesn't compare. Rag on 4.6's all you want mine have proven reliability over and over with oil changes around 5000 miles. You represent a recent trend this site seems to be setting of making every post that you disagree with a personal issue. I don't know how you consider that a good idea, but somehow you do. As far as motors go I don't do tons of motor work, but I have friends in about every kind of shop you can imagine.That comes from treating people with respect, try it sometime. I specialize in the transmission and converter. If your point is a call out that is easy enough. Find something to match me cube for cube and we can have a go at it in the spring.
Alan

[GREAZY]

Find something to match me pube for pube and we can have a go at it in the spring.
Alan

Let the dick swingin begin !

[dsmawd350]

The 4.6 is a 95 so GM's counterpart would be the 305,

you show your ignorance with every post

in 1995 to match the 4.6 in a mustang GM had the 5.7 350

[dsmawd350]

my buddy has a 2000 gt he's been beating on for 3 years with 0 engine or tranny problems. im planning on getting one after winter. just curious why you think their junk?give me some stuff to look out for.thanks
my brother has an 02gt with ~30k miles on it. blew the spark plug out of the head and took the threads with it. 500 bucks to fix it at the dealer. and what do you know its such a common problem FORD actually makes a kit out there just to fix this issue

[Metcalf Racing]

my buddy has a 2000 gt he's been beating on for 3 years with 0 engine or tranny problems. im planning on getting one after winter. just curious why you think their junk?give me some stuff to look out for.thanks99+ I started being a fan. But after owning a few I quickly realised their oiling issues. They are real bad for upper in noise. Blackout on here spun the cam bearings in his heads a few years back. And had a different motor break a lifted. I've owned two the ended up needing engine swaps for the same reason. In 04 the wife and I took our 00gt to tenn. It had 2700 miles on the oil change we got there and I thought it spun a bearing. It was so bad I called my dad and told him he may need to come get it. I pulled in roger pulled up on a parking block,pulled the drain plug then walked to autozone and changed the oil. That fixed it but every time it would near 3k it would start making that noise. Then you have the timing chain issue and the spark plug issue. Like I said junk

[thecollector]

I've got a 04 2500 express w/ 249K on it. Original motor with good oil pressure and power still. The trans was replaced @ 30k.

2009 silverado with 5.3 no motor issues. Currently on its 3RD dealer installed trans @ 140k. Also a new rear axle.

Don't get me started on my fuel prime losing, Crank no start $45k d-max.....

I can go on and on about both brands. I was a ford line tech for several years so I am more than familiar w/ the issues they have had. Now that I manage a fleet of gm stuff I realize this conversation is pointless for both sides.

This conversation is more futile than putting toothpaste back in the tube.

The only difference is I'm choosing to support one by purchasing products, the other I'm involuntarily supporting with my tax dollars. If you can't make enough money to stay in business what does it say about the true value of your product?

BTW the dyno video was nasty. Those were some southern sheik sleeveless shirts on those guys. One might questions the amount of proffesionalism and experience a shop has when you give them keys to a $50k+ car.

[1_slo_92]

The 3.0 taurus would compare to the 3.1 which won't make it past 100,000 miles without water in the oil from the intake manifold gasket. Now try to back up what you say with real world figures. Mine make sense and you know not what you speaketh.
Alan

I can show you a stock 3.1 that has never had a new water pump, intake gaskets, or timing set changed and it has 220k and still going everyday. The car might be falling apart around it but the motor and trans are all original, just change the oil every 3k and keep on going.

[orangedemon331]

Huh, so now you feel like you should insult my friend who is working on warranty vehicles....I made my point and you made an insult to someone you don't even know....that's logical
Alan

Your the one that put your buddy in this not me, I have owned and driven countless GM V6/V8's with no problems. My own personal work van get nothing but abuse, 240,000 miles, driven 100+ miles a day and on most days i never turn it off till i get home! Oh and it hasnt had the oil changed in about 50,000 miles!!!:lol:

[Adam@S&MMotorsports]

See instead of making a sensible post to disagree you had to make drama. If you don't see that it is simply because you are an idiot.
A simple mechanical setup doesn't make a decent motor to me. All in all even if you slobbing all over chevy's knob about one motor their entire fleet doesn't compare. Rag on 4.6's all you want mine have proven reliability over and over with oil changes around 5000 miles. You represent a recent trend this site seems to be setting of making every post that you disagree with a personal issue. I don't know how you consider that a good idea, but somehow you do. As far as motors go I don't do tons of motor work, but I have friends in about every kind of shop you can imagine.That comes from treating people with respect, try it sometime. I specialize in the transmission and converter. If your point is a call out that is easy enough. Find something to match me cube for cube and we can have a go at it in the spring.
Alan

This conversation is pointless but I'm down for some racing! What kind of cubes do I have to match? :lol: Any other rules? (compression, tire size and type, power adders, fuel, head type, year, make, model, weight, supension type?) Or maybe you could just tell me your combo and I'll build one just like it next week. :bigthumb

[Whyucryn]

This conversation is pointless but I'm down for some racing! What kind of cubes do I have to match? :lol: Any other rules? (compression, tire size and type, power adders, fuel, head type, year, make, model, weight, supension type?) Or maybe you could just tell me your combo and I'll build one just like it next week. :bigthumb

Oh yeah? Well you're a big Meanie head...and a bully!!!!!

[87stangbbb]

thinking back, i knew a guy that went over 30,000 miles without changing the oil in his 4.6 because he said he couldn't afford an oil change. and his didnt make any funny noises. i know that is a unbelievable story. youy'd just have to know this weirdo.lol

[JIMS SVT]

Blackout on here spun the cam bearings in his heads a few years back.

No cam bearings in a modular head.

[9cobra4]

GM hasn't made a good engine in ten years? Are you serious dude? The Mustang GT has JUST now passed up the LS1 Camaro's. The 03-04 Cobra would beat an SS or Z yes, but you could buy a stripper LS1 Z and ran damn near the same times and cost much much less. I'm a mustang guy, and I'm actually not a big fan of Chevy, but I have to give credit where credit is due. Brand loyalty is fine, but saying dumb shit like you said is, well, dumb. The 4v cobra's would even get beat by a stock LS1, throw a gear in the Cobra and it's a damn close race, nod still going to a stripper Z. Get off your high horse man, us mustang guys have the Camaro beat, for now. Enjoy it.

[Metcalf Racing]

No cam bearings in a modular head.Well what ever it has it messed it up and he had to change heads

[juiced]

They all run on money dosent matter ford or chevy

[thecollector]

They all run on money dosent matter ford or chevy

:agree: The more cash they are fed the faster they'll go.

[Dirtyd0g]

you show your ignorance with every post

in 1995 to match the 4.6 in a mustang GM had the 5.7 350
4.6=281 CI vs gm 5.0 at 305 CI hardly a comparison to a 350CI I used the closest real world comparison.....apples to apples, and you used a grape fruit
Alan

[Rich]

you show your ignorance with every post

in 1995 to match the 4.6 in a mustang GM had the 5.7 350

In 1995, the Mustang still had the 5.0L

[dsmawd350]

yeah i realized that afterwards. not really a mustang guy :lol: I guess thats why i'm not in here making half assed assumtions and comments about a motor line up i dont know about

[orangedemon331]

yeah i realized that afterwards. not really a mustang guy :lol: I guess thats why i'm not in here making half assed assumtions and comments about a motor line up i dont know about

Damn chevy guy, coming in here to screw it all up!!! lol Put some snow tires on that TA and lets go for a ride!!

[boostanggt]

Damn chevy guy, coming in here to screw it all up!!! lol Put some snow tires on that TA and lets go for a ride!!

Be careful. That GM powered vehicle can't get out of it's own way :lol:

[Walter]

You guys are funny.