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Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:33 PM
I have this posted on another fourm, but I figured you guys may be interested. Obviously this forum is more geared toward drag racing, so maybe a scaled down version would be better for you guys? Anyways, I hope this gives some people ideas and motivation to make one of their own.
Well since I have a set of race wheels now I need a way to get them to the track. I can only fit one tire in my car (passenger seat), and thats even a stretch, so I knew a trailer of sorts was in order. Of course I could have bought one of those harbor freight ones, or a northern tool one, but thats just not my style.
I figured an aluminum framed tire trailer would be much lighter to move around when its not hooked up to my car. So far the frame is less than 25 lbs. I'm estimating the whole thing will be 35 lbs when finished. Then I'll add a platform and tool box to the front, and a tire hold-down setup. This is all I could get finished this weekend. I'm going to be ordering up my axle tomorrow, custom from Dexter Axle. I'm going with an independent torsion axle, 600 lb capacity. Should be perfect for this trailer, which I estimate to weigh ~350-400 lbs fully loaded.
The frame is made from 6061-T6 aluminum tubing. Its 2"x2" square x 0.125" wall. Its just a touch under 8' long, and the inside of the frame rails are 51" to accommodate 4 315s. I have a bad back, so I wanted this to be as low profile and close to the ground as reasonably possible so I don't have to lift the tires much. I went with the torsion axle for this reason amongst others. Depending on what specs I pick for the axle, the bottom of the trailer will be close to 11" from the ground. The bottom of the tires will be 6" ground clearance. Plenty more than my car has, so I should be good.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Tiretrailerprogress1.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Tiretrailerprogress2.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Tiretrailerprogress3.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Tiretrailerprogress4.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Tiretrailerprogress5.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Tiretrailerprogress6.jpg
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:34 PM
I started on the wheel hold-down bar today. Coping out the tubes took forever, and I did them all by hand. Before I made any cuts in the aluminum I made a mockup piece out of identical sized PVC pipe, then copied to all 4 aluminum tubes. All mocked up ready to weld in place. First I need to drill some holes in the vertical tube for pins/locks.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Trailersupports1.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Trailersupports2.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Trailersupports3.jpg
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:35 PM
Made some progress over the several days. I got the tire hold-down pieces of the frame completed and welded on. I also added triangulation pieces to support the tongue of the trailer. I just need to add one more piece to the tongue support and I'll be ready to bolt on the tongue. I still need to make the piece that fits in the vertical towers that actually holds down the tires.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/trailerprogress2-15-102.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/trailerprogress2-15-103.jpg
The spacing of the four holes is such that I have 1/4" adjustability.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/trailerprogress2-15-104.jpg
Notice the drain holes at the bottom of the vertical tubes. Don't want them filling up with water if it rains.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/trailerprogress2-15-101.jpg
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:36 PM
I finished up the tire hold down part of the trailer. Holds the tires perfectly. If you look closely at the second pic, you can see the 1/4" adjustability. One hole is almost lined up above and below.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/trailerholddownfinished1.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/trailerholddownfinished2.jpg
I still need to see about some sort of dry/non messy lubricant I can put where the aluminum slides. It wants to bind up if you don't pull it perfectly straight up. I was considering the removable piece hard anodized, but not sure what the cost of that would be. The other alternative would be to use a dry lubricant like a wax based lube, or something like that. I'm not sure what to do about that quite yet.
Got my axle today. Its a custom built Dexter axle. 600 lb capacity, independent torsion suspension. Its nice. The trailer will squat down probably another 1.5" fully loaded. The axle is just temporarily held in place with some C-clamps, and the location could change depending on the weight distribution.
If the axle remains near the location where is currently is, looks like putting fenders on will completely block some of the holes for the locks. DesignFail....... Now, is it required by law to have fenders on all trailers regardless of their weight? I could always do a flap sort of thing, but a full fender would be a difficult thing to pull off and not block the holes/locks.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/AxleMockup3.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/AxleMockup2.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/AxleMockup1.jpg
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:36 PM
Blah blah blah.....
I got started on the trailer hitch. Here is what I've done so far.
I played connect the dots with the spot welds. If I connect to where the spot welds are, I'll be going through two metal thicknesses. Also, it helped visualize where the structure was behind the rear skin. There is a channel that runs across the rear of the car, between the "frame rails". I assume its to stiffen the chassis in torsion, and also provide gas tank protection from rear impact. There is also some pretty strong areas around where the spare tire/trunk metal meets up back there. I looked at it for a good long time before I understood what was back there, and how I would utilize the area best.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress15.jpg
Then I went ahead and made up a template of how to spread the load out over a large area, utilizing a lot of the strong areas back there. I also had to make sure my bolt holes would align perfectly on my lines connecting the spot welds.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress14.jpg
Then I made it out of cardboard since its stiffer and would help with the mockup. I punched holes in this piece so I could see that they lined up how I wanted. All looked well with this piece.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress13.jpg
Then transfered the template to some 1/4" aluminum plate (1/4" thick) and drilled holes and cut out.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress12.jpg
I then started modifying the rear aluminum bumper. I welded an aluminum plate on the bottom, to make a solid platform for me to place some brackets. The hitch will be attached to both the aluminum plate on the body, and the aluminum bumper. This bumper is a pretty thick aluminum extrusion with interior passages which make it very strong. Here is the plate welded around the edges. I drilled 5 5/8" holes so I could plug weld it on.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress8.jpg
Here is a closeup of the weld (fusion only) around the edges.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress4.jpg
Plug welded all 5 holes.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress11.jpg
Plug welds sanded flush.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailorHitchProgress2.jpg
Its probably not clear what I'm doing as of now, but it will make more sense once I post the next update.
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:37 PM
Made some more progress on it today/tonight. Soon enough you'll see how it all ties together with the aluminum bumper.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/IMG_3679.jpg
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:37 PM
Busting shit out. Almost finished. I still need to drill the through hole for the drawbar, and maybe add a gusset or two in a few places I think may benefit from it. But its mostly finished. Whew. Then back to the wheels. Dangit, I don't have a whole lot of time to wrap this up before the 28th test and tune.
Tabs welded on the bottom of the bumper. I experimented with some new settings on my dynasty TIG, so it may look a bit off in places but overall went pretty well. I was trying a few things that would let me get more out of the machine when its maxxed out at 200A. Less cleaning, higher frequency, seemed to work pretty well. I may add a few gussets to these tabs.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailerHitchProgress21.jpg
All bolted in the car.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailerHitchProgress22.jpg
And some pics of how it comes through the bumper. I'm thinking of having the hitch anodized black or something. Not sure. The drawbar pin will be on the back side where I have those side plates welded. I did that so that the pin will be going through 1/2" thick material on both sides.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailerHitchProgress23.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailerHitchProgress24.jpg
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 01:38 PM
Put some gussets in, and drilled the drawbar hole. Played around more with machine settings, more balance (80 vs 70) seemed to help.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/Trailerhitchprogress3.jpg
Evil_Capri
03-16-2010, 01:40 PM
Very nice work!! :bigthumb
k062693w
03-16-2010, 01:54 PM
HOLY MAD FAB SKILLS BATMAN !!! LOL
Wicked skills !!! I'm amazed every time I see one of your builds !!!
87stangbbb
03-16-2010, 02:03 PM
freakin awesome
cstreu1026
03-16-2010, 02:44 PM
Very nice, but how is the Pinto coming along?
Kevin Doe
03-16-2010, 02:46 PM
yes coming, maybe even to a track this year!
Xowner
03-16-2010, 03:46 PM
are you putting wheels on the trailer that match the wheels on your car?
8NO4CYL
03-16-2010, 09:01 PM
You got some mad welding skills bro. :bigthumb
5.0calypso93lx
03-17-2010, 10:02 AM
are you putting wheels on the trailer that match the wheels on your car?
Nope, he wussed out even though they do make 14" RPF1's!!! :flipoff:
Markcore
03-17-2010, 10:13 AM
Thats nice!!!!
INSANEBA
03-17-2010, 11:09 AM
Stack of coins in those welds bud! I need to see you about doing some fab work for my rockets!
Walter
03-17-2010, 11:17 AM
Nice work Doe. You're so damn smart!
heyitsmepugsley
03-18-2010, 10:50 PM
woow very impressive!!! props to you my friend.
Kevin Doe
04-03-2010, 12:24 AM
I made a big ass box. Took the better part of a full 5'x10' sheet. Its 5052 aluminum, 0.080" thick. I came up with the design, Hot Rod did some CAD work for me to figure bend allowances, etc. A friend of mine was gracious enough to let me and my dad (a sheet metal worker) use his shop for the press brake and shear, and he helped out a lot as well. I welded it up, and it was pretty much a pain in the butt but it turned out nice. I had to tack like every inch to avoid having it warp and look like shit. If you notice in one of the pics there is a scale. I was moving the axle location around to get ~10% of the trailer weight on the tongue (40 lbs).
Its gigantic. Its big enough to load full of tools, and bring the fam. Hahahha. Its not finished yet, I still need a hinge, and some latches and air shock things, etc.
I'll also need to come up with some sort of divider setup to keep stuff where I want it inside the cavernous toolbox.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailerToolBox1.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailerToolBox2.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TrailerToolBox3.jpg
Timido
04-03-2010, 02:03 AM
Very Nice
Kevin Doe
04-18-2010, 12:13 AM
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TowingTrailer1.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TowingTrailer2.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/TowingTrailer3.jpg
Brandon Alsept
04-18-2010, 11:33 AM
Very nice!!!
Need some fenders on it now to keep that tool box from getting all beat up on the road ;)
Oh and polish it ;) Look like a small airstream LOL
Kevin1989
04-18-2010, 12:28 PM
i take it that wasnt your first time welding? haha
that is an awesome design and a great idea!
Dirtyd0g
04-18-2010, 12:55 PM
Looks great, I agree on needing fenders. Makes me want to buy a machine capable of welding aluminum.
Alan
plated
04-18-2010, 01:27 PM
u got talent:bigthumb i'm always checkin in on your project's amazing work and imagination
winner70ta
04-19-2010, 10:37 AM
That's it, you need to have your own Saturday\Sunday morning car show on television. I'd certainly rather watch the projects that you are working on. Your welds are freaking awesome :bigthumb
Kevin Doe
04-19-2010, 11:08 AM
Thanks a lot guys! Took it to the first race this year and finished 7th out of 92. My first top ten finish, I'm stoked!
Here are two pics that some dude posted on CSS. My car really squats on hard accel, even on stiff springs. Grip is a good thing.
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/ej1bmx/Autox4-18-10406.jpg
http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr215/ej1bmx/Autox4-18-10409.jpg
draggin50
04-19-2010, 11:46 AM
WOW!!! I have never seen such awesome work before as on all of your projects. You have mad skills! Looks great and I cant wait to see more of your work.
cstreu1026
04-19-2010, 12:06 PM
Man that thing looks like it's going a million miles an hour. Awesome pics!
Kevin Doe
04-28-2010, 08:52 AM
Getting down to finishing touches. Put some air shocks/springs on the toolbox for the lid.
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/IMG_3841.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l55/Kevin_Doe/RX-7/IMG_3842.jpg
Mista Bone
04-28-2010, 03:28 PM
Next trailer = Woody style teardrop camper?
Combine your steel and wood artwork into one.
thecollector
05-06-2010, 01:08 AM
Sweet trailer, the seams and geometry on the box make it look like a coffin for a midget.:lol:
That thing is sick, my $.02. Try some powdered graphite for the tubes to move or marine kopr (kinda messy but stands up to weather).
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