Kids

[Steves LX]

So is it just me or is this generation of kids the laziest people around. I get home from work last night and end up spending another 2 hours outside shoveling my drive. And why did I shovel the drive? Because my 20 yr old son has a 4 cyl coupe that can barely pull it's own ass around on drive pavement. So about half way thru I stop to go inside to eat. My son looks at me when I come inside and says man your full of snow and you look like your cold. That was all it took and the war was on. I went off on him and all of a sudden the wife steps in and sticks up for him and now I am the bad guy. So I am now tired of listening to him and his mother. So I go back outside and do you think he comes out to offer me a hand after I just chewed his ass out. Hell no he doesn't. So I get all done and come back inside and I tell him that I hope his ass gets stuck tomorrow in the driveway. He says I thought you just shoveled it all. I said I did and I am fixing to go back out and dig out the piles around your car and trap the damn thing in. He did nothing yestarday but sleep all day. And it's easy to say oh well it's not my problem. But in the end it becomes my problem when I have to pull his ass out or he misses work and now can't afford to pay his bills. When I was a kid we always shoveled our drives and we went around and did other peoples for money. That was the first thing we did before we even thought about sled riding or snowball fights and stuff. I haven't ever seen such lazy kids.

[Dirtyd0g]

Don't blame the kids, blame the parents. When I was a kid I played sports, rode bikes, and generally kept myself busy outdoors. The kids of today only excercise theirs hands playing video games. As for your son it sounds like you forgot to tell him to shovel that snow. Your wife not taking your side of it is the worst part. My wife was the same way. It sounds dumb but church made the difference. Wives should support their husbands right or wrong and discuss it in private later. My wife was the worst. Our oldest is technically hers, but I am the only "Dad" she has known. We have been in many arguements over her not supporting me on issues.

"You wives must submit to your husbands' leadership in the same way you submit to the Lord. For a husband is in charge of his wife in the same way Christ is in charge of His body the church. (He gave His very life to take care of it and be its Saviour!) So you wives must willingly obey your husbands in everything, just as the church obeys Christ." Ephesians 5:22-24
Alan

[cstreu1026]

He's 20. Time to grow the hell up. Kick his ass to the curb and let him expereince life on his own.

[Steves LX]

Well I can't work and babysit the kids at the same time. So when we are home he knows better than to sleep all day. But like the saying goes when the cats away the mice will play. And gee I am sorry I guess next time I will ask him to shovel it. I guess I was brought up different and that shit didn't fly when we were kids. It was called respect and discipline. And unfortunately now days it's always the parents fault and never the kids. Kids are always right and parents are always wrong.

[facemelter71]

My dad would have put a hurtin on me.Usualy if I didnt do it right away he would go out there and start,but trust me,I was out there within 10 minutes.

It was always an unwritted rule to shovel the drive and take care of all that crap.You just do it.

[Steves LX]

He's 20. Time to grow the hell up. Kick his ass to the curb and let him expereince life on his own.

Well he has been out on his own off and on. He has a job and he does give us money. He is going to be going to school here shortly so I thought we could help him out some by leaving him stay home if needed. He knows the rules and he knows that me asking him to do something that's included in the rules(such as snow removal, dishes, laundry, vacuming, dusting, trash) is not part of the rules. He know's better than to wait for me to ask. I guess yestarday he thought he would try to slide under the radar. It's common sense and I will not tolerate it.

[jlt2006]

Don't get me started. Your 100% right Steve.

[1baddlx]

its not the parents fault,laws have changed and children services has made it hard to discipline a child these days.

[Pitbull1052]

Don't blame the kids, blame the parents. When I was a kid I played sports, rode bikes, and generally kept myself busy outdoors. The kids of today only excercise theirs hands playing video games. As for your son it sounds like you forgot to tell him to shovel that snow. Your wife not taking your side of it is the worst part. My wife was the same way. It sounds dumb but church made the difference. Wives should support their husbands right or wrong and discuss it in private later. My wife was the worst. Our oldest is technically hers, but I am the only "Dad" she has known. We have been in many arguements over her not supporting me on issues.

"You wives must submit to your husbands' leadership in the same way you submit to the Lord. For a husband is in charge of his wife in the same way Christ is in charge of His body the church. (He gave His very life to take care of it and be its Saviour!) So you wives must willingly obey your husbands in everything, just as the church obeys Christ." Ephesians 5:22-24
Alan




Are you for real Dirtydog? Steve I say it's time to have that man to man with the boy.... and if he can can't shovel snow then I wouldnt let him park in the driveway..... and yes you are correct kids today are the lazies lil F's ever, too much digial stimulation all they do is text, or ipod, or myspace, or video games....... i'd make his car look like it was in an igloo garage!

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Man, i can't question your parenting style, but my mother would've kicked my ass the fuck out for something like that, and me and my mom have a really solid relationship so it's not that she was rough on me. I was expected to simply do my share. I've been working a full time job since i was 16 and my income up until the time i moved out was considered part of the household income...so if a bill needed paid, i paid it. If the fridge was empty, i filled it. That's how it was, that's what the expectation was of me. I don't know...i shoveled an acre and a half long driveway that was GRAVEL underneath and i did it because 1) i knew my mother had to get down that driveway to get herself and me to work and 2) i knew it was easier than having to push the car out when it got stuck if i didn't shovel it. I guess it was different even when i was still living at home (i would've been 18 when i still lived at home) because i didn't have video games, cell phones, internet, cable and all that other crap to make me lazy (but i'm sure as hell making up for lost time now :lol: )

[Yellow98Cobra]

Better yet, next time throw his keys in the snow in the driveway and inform him that he has inconvenienced you, now you have returned the favor. I am sure he will not let the driveway go unshoveled again.

[85_SS_302_Coupe]

Hell i didn't have my own car till i was 18 and bought it myself. And, it was actually the third car i had bought and i never got to drive the 2 before it because i didn't get my license until i was almost 19.

Remember though....when you were a kid, you always said if you ever had kids they would have it better than you. Maybe your boy does have it better than you. Just do something to make him appreciate it.

[wes 89 gt]

I'm 19 and it really pisses me off that most people my age are like this. Not all of us are like that. Yes i have a playstation and i payed for it. I play it maybe a combined three hours a month. i have a Job and go to school full time. yesterday uc was closed so I got a few more hours in at work. i live and pay rent at my parents house. I clean the house, take out garbage, and help out as much as possible for my mom and my dad. so not everyone my age is lazy as shit just most of them:)

[Dirtyd0g]

I do agree. When I lived at home if it snowed I got up and shoveled snow. While I was at it I did the neighbors on both sides and the old lady across the street. I think you may have misunderstood my point. In a few months I will have 5 kids and I will fight tooth and nail to prevent them from being lazy like the generation I see. I think it has been going on longer than we realize. Too many video games,movies and other forms of electronic baby sitters is the cause. You shouldn't have had to ask him to shovel the snow. I just got done making the oldest shovel the driveway here. She almost called childrens services for cruel and unusual punishment. If my back weren't fubar I would go do it myself as good exercise.
As far as if I am serious, of course I am. I don't intend it as anything mean.
Alan

[Stangman]

It's funny, I was having a conversation like this with a guy I work with... he was complaning about is 13yr old (I blame most if it on his parenting skills) BUT yeah it seems the majority of kids are this way nowadays... It's like the gov. put something in the water right around 1989-1990 :lol:

I'm 23 and I live with my parents still, but if they ask me to do something... I do it, especially if they cannot.

[Steves LX]

Yeah I was out there last night sweating my balls off thinking to myself he is going to wear this shovel before its all said and done.:lol: J/K I would never do anything to my kids to hurt them but I was frustrated. Not sure what the snow up in the city was like but out east it rained a little and the snow was packed down and heavy as shit. Then on top of that I have a gravel driveway and it's not small by any means. The drive from the street back to the garage is close to 600 feet. All we ever shovel is an area around the cars in the circle section right in front odf the house and out by the street. The rest of it I run it down with my truck. It's just way to much for a shovel. The turn around area and out by the street takes one person with several breaks about 2 hours to do with a shovel.

['92Stang]

My 6 year old cleaned my entire driveway, and parking area. Along with the neighbors drive. Her motivation was simply, she was allowed to use the snow to make a ice castle. She sat on my lap, and ran the bobcat controls...lol..:D

[Stangman]

My 6 year old cleaned my entire driveway, and parking area. Along with the neighbors drive. Her motivation was simply, she was allowed to use the snow to make a ice castle. She sat on my lap, and ran the bobcat controls...lol..:D

:lol:

So how big of an ice castle got made?!?

[03z06vette]

post pics of the castle...thats sweet!

[bascom123]

hallelujah.. brother.. believe me my kids know whats expected of them..

[Kevin1989]

the shoveling of the driveway was alway my job, if we needed it. i did it or i didnt do shit that day, and if i didnt do it my self i paid someone to do it

[redfirepearlgt]

Don't blame the kids, blame the parents. When I was a kid I played sports, rode bikes, and generally kept myself busy outdoors. The kids of today only excercise theirs hands playing video games. As for your son it sounds like you forgot to tell him to shovel that snow. Your wife not taking your side of it is the worst part. My wife was the same way. It sounds dumb but church made the difference. Wives should support their husbands right or wrong and discuss it in private later. My wife was the worst. Our oldest is technically hers, but I am the only "Dad" she has known. We have been in many arguements over her not supporting me on issues.

"You wives must submit to your husbands' leadership in the same way you submit to the Lord. For a husband is in charge of his wife in the same way Christ is in charge of His body the church. (He gave His very life to take care of it and be its Saviour!) So you wives must willingly obey your husbands in everything, just as the church obeys Christ." Ephesians 5:22-24
Alan

Sounds like good advise DirtyD0g. No it does not sound dumb IMHO. I'll admit that when I was growing up there were many times when my father got hot over me not doing something he thought I should be doing other than sitting in front of the boob-tube. Mom however would stand in my defense. This did me NO good whatsoever. Mom meant well but I learned nothing good from it. It effected my study habits later in college (I failed out), among other things. Thankfully I joined the US Navy after dropping out of college when I was 20. WOW! Did I learn a thing or two in there. My first station was SanDiego 2300 miles from Mom's apron strings. She wasn't there any more and now it was sink or swim (no pun intended). 8 years later I realized what Dad was trying to teach me. It is amazing to this day how much smarter parents are cmopared to when we were kids and how they just keep getting smarter, Mom included.

It seems IMO you as a parent are fighting a dual battle today unlike when we were younger (I'm 45 now). You are trying to raise your kids in a society that thinks it knows what is better for your kids than you do. "It takes a village", is BS and is one of the key reason why kids today think anything beyond what they want to do is Child Abuse is because of the socialistic teaching they are brainwashed with in the schools. Sorry you have to deal with this. Hope things get better.

PS Remember Dr. Spock and his book on child raising from the 60's and 70'? His son committed suicide. What does that say for his thoughts on child raising.

Good luck and God Bless.

[JA04GT]

Yeah when i was younger and at home with mom and dad, it was known that if dad had to get out there and shovel the porch and stuff you did do shit that you want to for at least two weeks.:lol:

And on the whole "kids these days" comments, i am 25, and i dont believe its the kids, its the parents. My parents raised me right and i have been working since i was 15(40 hours a week in the summer at mcdonalds). And now i turn wrenches for at least 45 hours a week plus side work on the weekend. I dont take vacations or anything like that, But maybe its just cause im greedy, and i watched my dad bust his ass to provided for us when i was young working 70 and 80 hours a week. I was brought up that it is the mans jobs to bring home the bacon. Yeah i might be over wieght but i am far from lazy.

[bcoh5gt]

It is the kids. They get that meal ticket in the second grade when they are taught about the whole 1-800 kids bullshit. You see the shit on the news all the time, cameras everywhere. Your kids can act however the fuck they want in public and you can't do shit about it "in public"! Ha key word public. Act however you want it may be 2hrs before we get home and you have straightened up and even said a few cute things on the way home but............when the front door shuts the ass whoopin begins. Fuck society and the general publics opinion as far as i'm concerned. Kids these days are the laziest, and it's the govt.'s fault. The parents are not allowed the control they should have.

['92Stang]

:lol:

So how big of an ice castle got made?!?
Right now its more of a big white blob of snow in the yard with tunnels.

post pics of the castle...thats sweet!

Should be done this evening. Need to get a couple smaller trash cans for the forms. Will post pics.:D