d@** cars

[1_slo_92]

Im sick and tired of getting screwed on every car i get. I traded my baby for a car and a truck, I did get a decent car out of the truck. But the other car i got in the original trade was making a knocking sound that i didn't hear untill the deal was done. Called him he said it was the timing chain and i trusted him. Now come to find out the knock is out back on the drivers side bank. now the old lady is screwed on a car and she has to worry about getting to two jobs:mad:

[sean]

what kind of car is giving you problems?

[1_slo_92]

98 vic, im not assuming the worst about the person i got it from, i do believe thats what he was told that was wrong with the car. Its just frustrating that i can't do good by her since my ex wife ruined my credit for many years to come.

[87stangbbb]

don't trust people you don't know and don't trust most people you do know lol

[NXcoupe]

98 vic, im not assuming the worst about the person i got it from, i do believe thats what he was told that was wrong with the car. Its just frustrating that i can't do good by her since my ex wife ruined my credit for many years to come.

Hey, it could be a loose spark plug, check it out, pull the wire out and give it a shot. I had a crown vic and it had the same problem after the guy bought it, pulled the plug out and put another in and a new coil boot, problem solved. I did it up for him.

[1_slo_92]

Ive got a cel so im going to go ahead n have that checked out, I went ahead n took a pry bar and had a listen around the motor last night there is a tick in the timing cover but the knock is "pounding" on the back drivers side of the motor down low

[thecollector]

I've got a 97 crown vic with under 100k. It got hit last winter in the pass. quarter but its not worth fixing. I took the insurance check and bought something else. $500 takes the whole car. my brother was driving everyday till tags expired in June. pm me if interested.

[INSANEBA]

Man Bobby, I wished you could catch a break on this. I know the story you told me on the phone lastnight, but I still think he should try to atleast work something out with you on this. Even if it's parts you could sell to cover the engine, or even a little labor. Just my .02 though, I know I wouldnt be able to hold my head up if I knew I boned the hell out of a fellow banger especially at this time of year, and knowing you have had car trouble and gave up your notchback just to get Ash a decent dd... A fuggin notchback! Yep, I'd be mad!

[1_slo_92]

Like i said i just need a 03 cobra drivetrain and she'll have a fun car lol. Just have to find the damn money pot at the end of the rainbow or get one of those damn money trees. LoL and lets face it he has what he wanted, i know now to check everything out before i trade/buy. Just because theyre a banger doesn't mean theyll hold their word.

[sean]

if you believe the seller knew it had big problems and still sold it to you without telling you I would like to know who it was so i dont buy from this person. If your not ok with throwing him out on front street feel free to pm me. I was under the assumption we could trust the guys and gals on here.

[1_slo_92]

I don't think he knew entirely what was wrong, there is a obvious knock noise of some kind, i took my trusty pry bar out and listened to where it was coming from and it was lower block, rear of the drivers side of the motor, i contacted the person i got it from he said no biggie (since he told me it was a timing chain) he would stay good to his word and have a motor for it since his friend had one or knew where 1 was. Now the story is since he's been sick he cant afford to help anyone now and he says the motor isn't bad. I guess my imagination is getting the b est of me and the pounding in the motor is just my mind playing tricks on me.

I would not like to expose this person as of yet, im still hoping he has a change of heart about the situation since i did in deed get rid of my coupe for this just because i was trying to do right by my fiance, which is still having to worry from day to day if she has a car, and we have no means to buy another since we don't have the money to even replace the motor.

[sean]

Thats messed up. I hope who ever it is at least puts an effort out to make it right. I know there are additives out there to quiet a motor so the buyer doesnt hear it untill its to late but I would hope that we as a stangbangerz family would not do that.

[Metcalf Racing]

I'm not the guy who sold him the car but I did own it. I bought the car thinking it needed a motor. I herd the same noise that I thought to be at the back of the motor. I had three different Friends of mine who are great mechanics look a it. One told me wrist pin, One told me the timing tensioner and one told me the lifters go bad. All three guys have a lot of experience with these motors. Personally I thought it could be the fly wheel or torque converter. I'm not convinced as to it being a spun bearing because I let my wife drive the car every day for a month and we put 1k miles on it and it never got worse. Kind of seemed like it was getting better. How did you not here it pretrade?

[Metcalf Racing]

Thats messed up. I hope who ever it is at least puts an effort out to make it right. I know there are additives out there to quiet a motor so the buyer doesnt hear it untill its to late but I would hope that we as a stangbangerz family would not do that.Na if its that quite it's getting better. When I had it you could hear it 20ft away. It sounds like a bicyle with a baseball card in the spokes

[1_slo_92]

Its upgraded to about 40 now weve had it for 3 weeks, seems to get worse by the week.

[1_slo_92]

And not hearing it was they waited till 230 am to show up when i ws sick and i just took his word for everything so i could get to bed, i didn't check into anything. Hell if i wouldn't have went to pull the car in the garage i wouldn't have had the key because his friend had it, needed the key so i called and got it back then i start it up and call him again because i didn't like the way it sounded but it wa a guarantee to me that 2 mechanics had looked at this and it was just a timing tensioner. He also stated sometimes its there and sometimes it goes away, it has yet to go away for any period of time since we have owned this.

[Metcalf Racing]

Oh I understand. It is a cool car. I hope everything works out

[1_slo_92]

Don't get me wrong here guys, we love the car. Its in good shape and is a nice family car. Just sucks because we both loved the notch and now weve got to worry about this car not making it around if we can't get the money to fix it. We all know money is tight nowadays and this is just 1 more thing that we shouldn't have to worry about.

[INSANEBA]

Like I said the other night Bobby, I know he said he was in a tight situation, but who isint right now. Isint that what put you in the spot of giving up the notch to get this pos? I'd be irate about it, maybe I'd be acting immature over it but so be it. You gave up your baby to get her a good DD, and got boned in return... I say he should give you something to help offset the cost....

[1_slo_92]

I know brandon, don't think im not upset or pissed off about it. Myself and ash are still wishing we would have just kept the notch. We both loved that car and even though it couldn't/wouldn't ever see snow we would still be able to walk out and fire it up while drinking a beer n saying "yep thats our baby" LoL. I can't make the guy do what is right or even hold his word, all i can do is hope for the best.

[stocknotch]

It sounds like you should have checked out what you were trading to. I know I would have. I don't care how late it is I would've went out and checked what i was trading to if I was trading my coupe to something. If he told you it was making noise (which you said you were told) and you didn't atleast go listen to it before the trade, I blame you.

[1_slo_92]

Then blame me. Typically i would have checked but after throwing up all day and just wanting to sleep i was just trying to get the deal done. If your saying it's ok to screw people then i will resale this without fixing it at or around blue book and not feel bad about raping someone.

Its ok thats 1 of the reasons i haven't mentioned names, now with this being brought up even though it is partly my fault for being in a hurry, all the blame falls on me when he stated it was checked by a mechanic and was told it was a timing chain? Now if you want to come listen to the car and hear where its coming from your more than welcome to do so, it is nowhere near the timing area. But it's ok to make it up as we go.

So now guys im proud to offer you a 1998 crown vic. with nothing wrong with it, has a "slight" tick sometimes but i had it checked out and its only a timing set (easy fix) now i want to sell for 3500obo but wont take a penny less than 3200.

"disclaimer" all sales are final and you can kiss my ass when it turns out its not the timing set.

[INSANEBA]

LMAO now thats a sales pitch!

[stocknotch]

I think it all boils down to you missing your notch (buyers remorse). In the trading game you take chances and sometimes you do good and sometimes you dont. You should ALWAYS check out what you're trading for though. I'm not taking sides at all. I'm just saying you shouldn't trade if you don't know what you're trading for or haven't checked it out.

[1_slo_92]

No matter what you say when you have to make a decision you don't want to you will have remorse when you get rid of something you never intendid to. It just comes down to 2am when im sick is not my highest point of the day. I should have checked it out yes. But i should have also been told 100% straight up that there might be something wrong with it besides an easy fix, I wouldn't go to a person and say hey buy this it needs this 20 dollar part fixed when it needs a $200$ part.

Hell ive gotten a few offers for the car on craigslist and thats a no go since i tell perfect strangers that it may very well be a rod knock.

[INSANEBA]

Did you mention the armorall to them??? I still say it's b/s! Remorse is expected on the part of giving up the notch, but usually that goes away when you start usong what you traded for. Now in this case, your gonna miss it even more when what you traded for is a total POS. I dont blame you for being mad, I know I certailny would be...

[thecollector]

If you still have this car and still need the motor I still have that crown vic that was tagged in the rear quarter. Pm me if you still need it.

[thecollector]

Ill post it up before somone else does....

HOLY THREAD RESSURECTION!!!

[1_slo_92]

Ill post it up before somone else does....

HOLY THREAD RESSURECTION!!!

i was thinking the same thing, that car has been crushed already lol.

[cobra429boss]

did it blow up or what

[1_slo_92]

Yep, rod was hanging out of the block

[redfirepearlgt]

It is very disheartening to hear this story and that there are so many others like it. THe fact that you were sick and decided to trust this person does not dismiss his wrongful actions for being a deceiver and taking advantage of a person to begin with if this be the case. You confided in this person in a situation in which he took unfair advantage of, plain and simple. If he were half the man he proclaims he would be attempting to work this out with you so that his word and his integrity stayed in tact. Appears to me that he does not care. Whether he was being up front or not, if he sold you the car and you have experienced this problem that was beyond what he claimed he was told by two other mechanics (second hand opinion) if he had an ounce of integrity left in his soul he would try to get this problem resolved.

Now, had he simply stated, "I don't know what is wrong with it, it knocks and ticks on and off, I wouldn't begin to have a clue as to if it will run 6 hours or 6 more years this way, it's a take it as it is sale, no refund deal.", then he would have been in the clear and up front with you to the best of his knowledge on a FIRST HAND basis. Offering you hope that it is a simple fix is very, very decietful.

Hiding behind legality does not an honest person make. Skirting the law does not make a person honest. Skirting the truth does no less to help a man's word of honor. When peopel quit trying to function as shifty lawyers and start being stand up honest people the world may start turning a little smoother. I know I am pipe dreaming and this will never happen. It is too sad that the day of an honest private transaction has gone to hell in a hand basket. Please read the PM I have sent you.

[thecollector]

It is my experience that there are just as many shisters as before, but now they have the web to market and propogate themselves. Everything is always buyer beware...especially noisy modulars.

Wish I would have known your plans to scrap I would have picked it up from you swapped motors and scrapped mine.

[Squale iii]

In general, I always prepare to fix a few things when I purchase a used car. You gotta figure, nobody wants to sell a car for a "fair price". They try to convince you it's this, when it's really that, and they try to convince you their price is a great deal. It's life, but that's why you gotta low ball. I've gotten two camaros in my life, and both had trans issues when I got them. I never really notice things until I drive a car for a week, so it is what it is. Just have money in the bank when you buy a car.