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Jrcmutang
04-09-2009, 04:13 PM
I have a complete Aeromotive fule system with an A 1000 pump. I am worried about crusing the car because the pump will get to hot. I am looking at an Aeromotive fuel pump controller, what i was wanting to know is are they really worth the money and does anyone on here run them? Also would i have to buy a fuel pump relay to wire up my exturnal fuel pump or can i use this controller to act as one becasue it comes with a 40 amp relay. Curious to see what options are out there and what you all think? The system with be on a 357W with heads cam and intake and maybe a little nitrous down the road? The whole system is aeormotive, the pump, the rails, and the regulator.

A05C
04-09-2009, 04:39 PM
if you put the pump in the fuel tank it cools it. their submersible, and im pretty sure their designed to be mounted outside of the tank also

Jeff88coupe
04-09-2009, 04:46 PM
I run a A1000 pump with one of the aeromotive controllers. I've never ran it without the controller...so I have no idea if it gets to hot to work right without it if you don't use one. So your going to run 2 fuel pumps? An single A1000 should be plenty for your setup.

quik lx
04-09-2009, 08:32 PM
It would depend on how much street driving you plan on doing. I know quite a few people running the A-1000 with no problems...these cars are not daily drivers, but get driven regularly over an hour to the track/cruise-ins and back. Just try and mount it in the airstream and don't mount it where the exhaust blows on it.

Sharad
04-09-2009, 09:19 PM
A1000 is a constant duty pump. I've never heard of one failing.

Jrcmutang
04-10-2009, 12:51 AM
I am running just one pump. Also i am going to try to mount it on the outside of the back of the tank, i am going to try it before i buy a controller. Jeff I bought those heater tunes today from craig

Jeff88coupe
04-10-2009, 08:30 AM
I run a fuel cell instead of a stock tank...but here is how I mounted my A1000 pump.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/26/102258797_9c16358266.jpg

Jrcmutang
04-10-2009, 08:07 PM
very cool, i had the same idea except i was going to mount mine to the plastic sheild on the stock sumed tank

Rick93coupe
04-10-2009, 08:52 PM
I daily drove my old coupe with an A1000 long before they ever came out with a controller. It'll be fine. The thing that kills these pumps is running them dry (no lubrication). With a stock sumped tank, you still want to make sure you have plenty of fuel in there. Even things you don't think about, like getting on of off the highway at a cloverleaf on or off ramp can cause the fuel to leave the sump and you get brief periods of running the pump dry. If it happens your fuel pressure gauge will be all over the place and it'll stumble for a few seconds.
I heard that the best way to add a sump to a stock tank is to place the sump where its going to go and mark it with a sharpie. Then take down the sump and use a 1" hole saw to drill a couple of holes for the fuel to fall into the new sump. The material left between those holes will help keep the fuel from sloshing out. .02

mustang8998
04-10-2009, 09:26 PM
I heard that the best way to add a sump to a stock tank is to place the sump where its going to go and mark it with a sharpie. Then take down the sump and use a 1" hole saw to drill a couple of holes for the fuel to fall into the new sump. The material left between those holes will help keep the fuel from sloshing out. .02

Good advise.

I wish I had done that, instead of a cell!

quik lx
04-11-2009, 12:41 PM
Then take down the sump and use a 1" hole saw to drill a couple of holes for the fuel to fall into the new sump. The material left between those holes will help keep the fuel from sloshing out. .02

Good info!!!

Glenn's performance "sleeper" tanks use an internal sump with a pick-up in the back and the return tube routed to the front of the sump for constant fuel supply.

http://www.glennsperformance.com/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=67

Jrcmutang
04-11-2009, 03:34 PM
hmm, great idea but i already have a sumped tank, its sumped right under where the old pump that was internal would sit, but your idea sounds even better. If it acts up i will try it. Thanks for all the good info guys!!

Sharad
04-12-2009, 10:02 AM
JRC, Aeromotive's Stealth tank is very nice too. OEM installation and fit. It's certainly worth working with the equipment you've already got though.

8banger
04-12-2009, 10:15 AM
very cool, I had the same idea except I was going to mount mine to the plastic sheild on the stock sumed tank
Thats exactly my setup.Works great.Do run a bypass back to the tank but (knock on wood) havent had an overheating issue(no controller).Its been on there for at least 3 years now with several hundred street miles.

Jrcmutang
04-13-2009, 09:57 AM
I have just heard mixed things like on long trips, we will find out. Either ill burn it up or it will work fine hahahaha

347sc
04-13-2009, 10:36 AM
I put about 15,000 daily driven miles on one in a year with no controller. That was with a sending unit insert also and drove it to Bowling Green for the NMRA race and back home.

Jrcmutang
04-13-2009, 02:43 PM
wow thats good news! so the pump wasnt making any unusal noises? I have heard mixws reviews on the A1000 pump.....

347sc
04-13-2009, 03:04 PM
Nope, didnt skip a beat.

Jrcmutang
04-13-2009, 04:09 PM
GOOD NEWS TO HEAR!!!

Jrcmutang
04-17-2009, 11:00 AM
I have another question, i was going to mount my pump on the plastic shield on the botton of the tank but it would be above my sump?? I dont want the pump getting too hot? I have a stock gas tank with a sump welded in? Any suggestions or ideas or am i being to worried over nothing?

Sharad
04-17-2009, 11:15 AM
That's how they all are. Come to think of it, I don't think I've seen an electric pump that is lower than the sump?

347sc
04-17-2009, 11:16 AM
I mounted mine off the rear bumper reinforcement on a bracket that placed it lower. I had a GT so you couldn't see the pump

Jrcmutang
04-17-2009, 11:46 AM
Mine is a coupe, i see most of them being fed by gravity through a cell. I dont know how these pumps create vacume to pull it up and push it but i guess they do?

347sc
04-17-2009, 12:31 PM
Gravity and air pressure will push it to the pump. If it is sumped you will be fine.

Jrcmutang
04-17-2009, 01:52 PM
cool, i do sure hope so!!

Jrcmutang
04-29-2009, 11:31 AM
I am mounting up the pump and i have a question, i bought a summit fuel relay kit and i ham wondering where i can get my swiyched 12v source for the relay from? I was thinking the red wire from the two plugs that go into the xenter on top of the tank? Anyone else that has done this please feel free to chime in?

347sc
04-29-2009, 11:34 AM
That how I did mine

8banger
04-29-2009, 11:34 AM
I have another question, i was going to mount my pump on the plastic shield on the botton of the tank but it would be above my sump?? I dont want the pump getting too hot? I have a stock gas tank with a sump welded in? Any suggestions or ideas or am i being to worried over nothing?

Exactly how mines setup.No issues yet :bigthumb

Jrcmutang
04-29-2009, 10:59 PM
which wire did you run it to?

Jrcmutang
04-30-2009, 11:29 AM
i would think that either red wire would be fine? I am thinking they are both a switched source for power

Jrcmutang
05-01-2009, 09:54 AM
found the power wire, thanks guys for all your help!!!

Jrcmutang
05-02-2009, 02:26 PM
please help, i had a swiched power source and now it doesnt work? I hooked it to the yellow wire that comes from the grey connector. I can run a jumper wire and the pump works. Just having trouble finding a switched power source??

Sharad
05-02-2009, 04:52 PM
did you blow a fuse?

are you using a relay?

I prefer to pull switched ignition (hot when cranking) off of the ignition switch in the steering column but you HAVE to use a relay and a SMALL fuse. It doesn't take any current to trigger a relay.

Jrcmutang
05-05-2009, 02:52 PM
I ended up justr running it to the hot radio wire

Jrcmutang
05-17-2009, 04:32 PM
well i have some problems now, i used a radio wire that was hot when the key is on. When you start trying to start the car, the wire goes cold, i am wondering is there any other place i could find a switched 12v source in the trunk area?

mailman
05-22-2009, 12:55 PM
Use the stock fuel pump power wire to energize the coil in your relay. Confirm that you have that lead, not the fuel level signal wire, which also carries power back there.

I ran an A1000 without their fancy controller for 80,000 miles on my last daily driven turbo'ed and sprayed Volvo without any issue ever.

Jrcmutang
05-23-2009, 12:53 AM
i think i had the wire but i dont now after i hooked it all up and i have checked all my fuses?