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Stangman
03-23-2009, 09:13 PM
I've got access to a '69 mexican 302. It's a 2 barrel motor, and it's 100% all stock from a truck down to the 6 quart pan. My question is, what is it worth and what are they going for?

It's definitely a mexican block, it says "Hencho en Mexico" in the lifter valley and has the two nubs on the front of the block.

ibstrokin
03-23-2009, 10:20 PM
I sold my Mexican block for $400, but it had a good 4.030 bore, had been notched for stroker clearance, and was ready to assemble. My block also had milodon main caps, and was drilled and tapped for 1/2" head bolts, which I would recommend anyone do with a 500+ hp mexi-block. Mexican blocks are great for 5-600 hp cars, they may take more, but you just never know how much more.

Gearhead
03-24-2009, 03:03 PM
I've got access to a '69 mexican 302. It's a 2 barrel motor, and it's 100% all stock from a truck down to the 6 quart pan. My question is, what is it worth and what are they going for?

It's definitely a mexican block, it says "Hencho en Mexico" in the lifter valley and has the two nubs on the front of the block.

Interested in selling it ??

evil666stang
03-24-2009, 03:09 PM
I've got access to a '69 mexican 302. It's a 2 barrel motor, and it's 100% all stock from a truck down to the 6 quart pan. My question is, what is it worth and what are they going for?

It's definitely a mexican block, it says "Hencho en Mexico" in the lifter valley and has the two nubs on the front of the block.

i gave 150 for the one i have,its standard bore but is no jewl. it had been sitting for awhile and needs tlc at the machine shop

Stangman
03-24-2009, 03:19 PM
Interested in selling it ??

I'd have to even have it first, lol, My dad's friend has it. I'm working something out... or atleast trying


i gave 150 for the one i have,its standard bore but is no jewl. it had been sitting for awhile and needs tlc at the machine shop

That's all this one is. Bone stock just pulled from a truck and sat.

evil666stang
03-24-2009, 03:28 PM
i dont know if there is a difference, but this one is out of a 76 cobra. have you looked at the main caps yet?

Stangman
03-24-2009, 03:34 PM
the old truck pan isnt even off it yet.

It has the round nubs cast into it on either side of the timing cover, and it says made in mexico in the lifter valley. It's definitely a Mexican block

evil666stang
03-24-2009, 03:39 PM
when you get the pan see if the main caps are thicker than normal, sounds like a good find to me

Stangman
03-24-2009, 11:13 PM
What am I comparing them to? Standard 302?

Gearhead
03-25-2009, 10:41 AM
What am I comparing them to? Standard 302?

Yes, here is a pic showing the difference. Mexican cap on the left.

Stangman
03-25-2009, 10:54 AM
Oh wow, that is a significant difference

evil666stang
03-25-2009, 07:55 PM
if im correct they have more nickle in the metel being made in mexico. honestly i dont know if that is good or bad, i have heard both from different people

Stangman
03-26-2009, 10:07 AM
nickel makes the block stronger, I've heard many people refer to it as "the re-cast 289 Hi-Po"


Which I have one of those in the garage as well :D

Gearhead
03-26-2009, 02:02 PM
nickel makes the block stronger, I've heard many people refer to it as "the re-cast 289 Hi-Po"


Which I have one of those in the garage as well :D

Jesse -

You have an original 289 HIPO block ?? I want to see pics as proof !!! I like the old iron....I had an original 1965 Mustang 289 HIPO coupe back in the day.

Stangman
03-26-2009, 02:36 PM
Jesse -

You have an original 289 HIPO block ?? I want to see pics as proof !!! I like the old iron....I had an original 1965 Mustang 289 HIPO coupe back in the day.

It's actually IN my dad's '65 Ford Fairlane 500 Sports Coupe. it is The real deal. Thick harmonic balancer, heads, everything. I've got 3 289's in the garage and was hoping to get those hi-po heads from 1992mustangdw a while back to put on top of one of them.

As for my dad's car

I drove it to the Fall cruise at QS&L last year. I can't access photobucket at work or I'd post a pic of it. The car just turned 80K just recently. It is a TRUE K-code, 4-speed, non-post car. He's had it since about '80-'81

I just sat back and thought about it... I have 3 289 blocks, 2 302 blocks, a 351 block, a 429 block and a 460 block.... And those are just the ones not in a car!

mustangjon
03-26-2009, 07:09 PM
And those are just the ones not in a car!


you have a car that has a motor installed? :doh:

85_SS_302_Coupe
03-26-2009, 07:25 PM
I'm a little confused on this subject...There's a double double going on here.

1) aren't Mexican blocks sought after because they didn't slim down the material when they cast them? Or in other words because they're stronger, right?

2) Isn't that the exact same reason someone would want an older '60s 302? Because that's back before their castings went on a diet?

So my question is, being both a 60s block AND a Mexican block, does it matter that it's a Mexican block or not? Wouldn't you want an '85+ Mexican block that has the beefiness and a roller cam?

Gearhead
03-26-2009, 07:36 PM
I'm a little confused on this subject...There's a double double going on here.

1) aren't Mexican blocks sought after because they didn't slim down the material when they cast them? Or in other words because they're stronger, right?

2) Isn't that the exact same reason someone would want an older '60s 302? Because that's back before their castings went on a diet?

So my question is, being both a 60s block AND a Mexican block, does it matter that it's a Mexican block or not? Wouldn't you want an '85+ Mexican block that has the beefiness and a roller cam?

Yes to 1 and 2. But the Mexican blocks had much beefier main caps, almost identical to 289 HIPO caps. Also, Mexicans were never cast as roller cam blocks. I think the last production year for the Mexican block was late 1997/early 1998. They are generally 8-10 lbs heavier than a late model thinwall roller block casting due to the extra material in them.

mustangjon
03-26-2009, 07:44 PM
they had higher nickle content, so added strength was inherant. No matter the years. Hence the desire.

85_SS_302_Coupe
03-26-2009, 07:47 PM
So even if you found an '85 Mustang from Mexico, it wouldn't be a Mexican roller block? They're ALL flat tappets?

Gearhead
03-26-2009, 08:03 PM
So even if you found an '85 Mustang from Mexico, it wouldn't be a Mexican roller block? They're ALL flat tappets?

Correct, but they were only found in trucks/vans.

85_SS_302_Coupe
03-26-2009, 08:08 PM
OK that makes sense since not all 302s after '85 were rollers. Thanks :D

Stangman
03-30-2009, 10:17 PM
Scott, this one is for you... This is my Dad's 289 Hi-Po in his '65 Fairlane, of course after I uploaded the pic I noticed I couldn't see the balancer. But it is a TRUE 289 Hi-Po. This particular engine had a cast iron 4-barrel intake that says COBRA on the front right by the thermostat housing, and it was on the car when he got it. Dad replaced the dual-points dist. in it back in the day because it was harder to tune. And he also shoved Hooker headers from a '65 mustang between the shock towers, which is a TIGHT fit. So tight it doesnt have a motor mount bolt on one side. The motor torques that direction anyway :lol: and with the tight fit, it isn't going ANYWHERE, at all. Of course It's not the black and gold like they came in the bigger cars like itself, it's dressed up just a little :D

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/stangman_77/my%20pics/0709082053a.jpg

Gearhead
03-31-2009, 10:38 AM
Scott, this one is for you... This is my Dad's 289 Hi-Po in his '65 Fairlane, of course after I uploaded the pic I noticed I couldn't see the balancer. But it is a TRUE 289 Hi-Po. This particular engine had a cast iron 4-barrel intake that says COBRA on the front right by the thermostat housing, and it was on the car when he got it. Dad replaced the dual-points dist. in it back in the day because it was harder to tune. And he also shoved Hooker headers from a '65 mustang between the shock towers, which is a TIGHT fit. So tight it doesnt have a motor mount bolt on one side. The motor torques that direction anyway :lol: and with the tight fit, it isn't going ANYWHERE, at all. Of course It's not the black and gold like they came in the bigger cars like itself, it's dressed up just a little :D

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/stangman_77/my%20pics/0709082053a.jpg

That looks great Jesse !! Tell your Dad to bring it to the cruise in !!

Stangman
03-31-2009, 11:10 AM
I actually brought it to the fall cruise in last year, but it might make another appearance!

Walter
04-05-2009, 08:12 AM
Ive read that if you run your mexican block real hard, the exhaust will smell like tortillas.

93hulk
04-05-2009, 12:02 PM
Ive read that if you run your mexican block real hard, the exhaust will smell like tortillas.


:lol:

Stangman
04-05-2009, 04:00 PM
So does the oil taste like salsa???

85_SS_302_Coupe
04-05-2009, 05:19 PM
I really liked the Fairlane...i kinda wish more guys on here had some older cars to bring out to the cruise ins.

mustangjon
04-05-2009, 05:36 PM
my 71 stang may see the cruise in some year lol, needs alot of tlc still and i just dont have the time for it. Or maybe sell it this year to a new home that will finish what i started.

Stangman
04-05-2009, 08:31 PM
I'll give you $15 :D

mustangjon
04-05-2009, 09:17 PM
I'll give you $15 :D

add two 00's to the end of that and you can have it :D