Official weigh-in

[USMCPONY]

I picked my car up today from Modular Depot with the official weight. The total weight was 3546 lbs.



front driver 751lbs front pass. 984lbs




rear driver 1009lbs rear pass. 802lbs

For a total of 3546lbs.

Why is the driver side rear 250+lbs heavier than the driver side front? Even with the motor, steering wheel, brake and clutch pedals, and support hardware. I would think the front would be heavier. It is almost the same case for the passenger side. Except the front is heavier. The front pass. is 282lbs heavier in the front than the rear. But what shocked me was the front pass. is heavier than the front driver side. Again, even though the steering wheel is on the left side the passenger was heavier. How could that be?

[USMCPONY]

Edit: That was with the gas tank topped off.

[Walter]

Are your threads always "official"?

[satan jamez]

What was the starting weight and what has been done so far to lighten it up?
Keep at it man, only 500lbs to go and she'll feel real nice :) JK.

[USMCPONY]

Are your threads always "official"?

Nope, just two of them. Using a certified scale is what makes this official. Its more accurate than guessing the weight. Mostly just a figure of speach

[USMCPONY]

What was the starting weight and what has been done so far to lighten it up?
Keep at it man, only 500lbs to go and she'll feel real nice :) JK.

Im not sure what the car weighed stock. I meant to weigh before the mods but forgot about it. I can look at the factory weight located in the door. But who knows how accurate that is. So far my light weight mods are: Aluminum DS, Aluminum flywheel, Steeda light weight radiator support, Steeda UCA(Only a couple pounds saved), Steeda LCA(Only a couple pounds saved), Rear tire and jack removed. Im probly going to put a BMR K-member and A-arms for another 40 lbs.

[05yellowgt]

This is from winter 07 when I scaled my car up at Dayton Performance.

I need to get the exact numbers but the total weight of the car with ~5/8 tank of gas is 3389. This was with full interior. If I remove the passenger seat like I sometimes do then the weight would have been ~3345. I normally run 1/4 tank of gas so then race weight weight is around 3310 w/o driver.

I got in the car and the total weight that day was 3590 meaning I come right in at 200lbs these days. Here is where I see some of my issues coming into play. Car's weight balance is 52/48 to the front. That is even with Weld Skinnies, BMR a-arms, k-member, and swaybar delete. That is well over 120lbs off the front of the car and it is still front heavy. I see why these cars have such a hard time lifting the wheels. The other issue is the side to side weight distrubution. I have to get the exact numbers but my driver's side rear has over 100lbs more static weight on it then the passenger rear. There is a similar weight difference between the drivers and passengers side front too though only about 30lbs if I remember correctly.

[05yellowgt]

Here are the weight savers
Mac Long tube headers (xx? lbslighter than the cast manifolds)
off road prochamber (eliminated cats 10-15lbs?)
true 1 piece driveshaft (30lbs)
Viper T56, same 125lbs weight as stock 5 speed
BMR swaybar delete (26.5lbs)
BMR a-arms & k-member (30lbs)
passenger seat removed (45lbs)
Prostar 15x3.5 w/185/80/15 tires (58lbs lighter than 18x9 wheels)
Prostar XP 15x9 w/275/50/15 (tires haven't weighed these 18x9's with 255/45/18's weigh 55lbs 30lbs saved?)
spare & jack removed (30lbs?)

I am guessing at 229lbs total saved but I am not 100% on that number as I don't have the exact weight on things like the jack and now much the rear welds weigh.

[plattner01]

well if you are looking to lose weight then try siebon caron fiber fenders , doors , trunk and hood, or i think rousch makes them also.

[USMCPONY]

This is from winter 07 when I scaled my car up at Dayton Performance.

I need to get the exact numbers but the total weight of the car with ~5/8 tank of gas is 3389. This was with full interior. If I remove the passenger seat like I sometimes do then the weight would have been ~3345. I normally run 1/4 tank of gas so then race weight weight is around 3310 w/o driver.

I got in the car and the total weight that day was 3590 meaning I come right in at 200lbs these days. Here is where I see some of my issues coming into play. Car's weight balance is 52/48 to the front. That is even with Weld Skinnies, BMR a-arms, k-member, and swaybar delete. That is well over 120lbs off the front of the car and it is still front heavy. I see why these cars have such a hard time lifting the wheels. The other issue is the side to side weight distrubution. I have to get the exact numbers but my driver's side rear has over 100lbs more static weight on it then the passenger rear. There is a similar weight difference between the drivers and passengers side front too though only about 30lbs if I remember correctly.

That is pretty light. Then again I do dont have a k-member or a arms. I have 20" rims vs. your 18's, and I had a full tank of gas. I wonder if I make those mods if I can get to 3389 lbs. I was told Long tubes, catted x, and cat back reduces 18 lbs. Im about to buy the Carbon Fiber Cobra racing seats. That will reduce around 40 lbs from both seats. Good job on the weight reduction. How is the supercharger coming along?

[USMCPONY]

well if you are looking to lose weight then try siebon caron fiber fenders , doors , trunk and hood, or i think rousch makes them also.

Have you seen the prices? I dont think the weight loss is worth the money. I believe the fenders alone are $1800.

[04 Venom]

I picked my car up today from Modular Depot with the official weight. The total weight was 3546 lbs.



front driver 751lbs front pass. 984lbs




rear driver 1009lbs rear pass. 802lbs

For a total of 3546lbs.

Why is the driver side rear 250+lbs heavier than the driver side front? Even with the motor, steering wheel, brake and clutch pedals, and support hardware. I would think the front would be heavier. It is almost the same case for the passenger side. Except the front is heavier. The front pass. is 282lbs heavier in the front than the rear. But what shocked me was the front pass. is heavier than the front driver side. Again, even though the steering wheel is on the left side the passenger was heavier. How could that be?

Did Modular Depot characterize the weight distribution as typical for a SN-197? I agree with you, I am shocked at the differences in corner weighting.

[USMCPONY]

Did Modular Depot characterize the weight distribution as typical for a SN-197? I agree with you, I am shocked at the differences in corner weighting.

Do you mean like 52% front and 48% rear? If so then no they did it from driver side to pass. side.

[04 Venom]

Do you mean like 52% front and 48% rear? If so then no they did it from driver side to pass. side.

No, I meant side to side. Normal?

[USMCPONY]

No, I meant side to side. Normal?

I think it was 51% driver and 49% pass. but not sure.

[USMCPONY]

This is the weight of a friend of mines 06 gt. His car weighs 1 pound more than mine and look at the difference of the weight in the corners. I think MD might of accidentally mixed the driver side numbers. This is what my friend wrote.

I have only had the chance to weigh mine once, and that was in July 2007. It weighed in at 3547 pounds w/o driver. It also seemed to be a little front heavy... 54.9% front, 45.1% rear. The breakdown per wheel was:

LF=983, RF = 963
LR = 804, RR = 797

Compared to my numbers:

front driver 751lbs front pass. 984lbs
rear driver 1009lbs rear pass. 802lbs

For a total of 3546lbs.

[05yellowgt]

That is pretty light. Then again I do dont have a k-member or a arms. I have 20" rims vs. your 18's, and I had a full tank of gas. I wonder if I make those mods if I can get to 3389 lbs. I was told Long tubes, catted x, and cat back reduces 18 lbs. Im about to buy the Carbon Fiber Cobra racing seats. That will reduce around 40 lbs from both seats. Good job on the weight reduction. How is the supercharger coming along?
My weight was with 15" wheels all around. Since then I have swapped to Corbeau LG1 seats which saved right at 30lbs and removed a few things like the heat shields where my cats used to be but I did add a big honking Procharger. I'd like to scale the car before it leaves DP. As far as tuning, things should be done Wed. or Thursday.

[04 Venom]

This is the weight of a friend of mines 06 gt. His car weighs 1 pound more than mine and look at the difference of the weight in the corners. I think MD might of accidentally mixed the driver side numbers. This is what my friend wrote.

I have only had the chance to weigh mine once, and that was in July 2007. It weighed in at 3547 pounds w/o driver. It also seemed to be a little front heavy... 54.9% front, 45.1% rear. The breakdown per wheel was:

LF=983, RF = 963
LR = 804, RR = 797

Compared to my numbers:

front driver 751lbs front pass. 984lbs
rear driver 1009lbs rear pass. 802lbs

For a total of 3546lbs.

That seems more like it. If you had 150-200 lbs. difference on the corners it would be a nightmare to drive around a road course.

[05yellowgt]

The carbon fiber body panels won't save you as much as you might think. The only real savings would be the doors and that is because you are removing the door crash beams. Not something you'd want to do without a full cage already if you ask me. Seibon does make a Dry Carbon Fiber trunk lid but it is weight behind the axle which you want for traction anyway.

[e5shea]

Are your threads always "official"?

members with USMC in their name can make anything official. :dummy:

[USMCPONY]

members with USMC in their name can make anything official. :dummy:

They just dont understand devil dog.

[Mista Bone]

your cross weights are WAY off, should be near 50/50 like your buddies

Your cross weights are 1993/1553.

Perfect for running a flat oval turning left, but not in a straight line.

[Walter]

They just dont understand devil dog.

Enlighten me.

[5.0calypso93lx]

Are your threads always "official"?

:lol:

[beefcake]

:lol:

:) i'll join ya

[USMCPONY]

your cross weights are WAY off, should be near 50/50 like your buddies

Your cross weights are 1993/1553.

Perfect for running a flat oval turning left, but not in a straight line.

I think there is a mix up in the numbers I meant to ask Greg today about them but forgot. I will try tomorrow. Thanks for the help.

[USMCPONY]

Enlighten me.

We make our own rules!

[USMCPONY]

My weight was with 15" wheels all around. Since then I have swapped to Corbeau LG1 seats which saved right at 30lbs and removed a few things like the heat shields where my cats used to be but I did add a big honking Procharger. I'd like to scale the car before it leaves DP. As far as tuning, things should be done Wed. or Thursday.

How much was the shipping weight of the Procharger? I would think the KB adds less weight than the Procharger since it is replacing the intake. I almost went with the Procharger just for the sound of it lol. Those things sound badass when you let off the throttle. What wheels do you use for the street?

[BigBadStang]

We make our own rules!
No you don't, you follow orders.

btw...
Thank you for your service!

[beefcake]

No you don't, you follow orders.

btw...
Thank you for your service!

lol :)

hey sean, pm me your new official cell, i tried ringing ya last night and the # didn't work for shiznit

[05yellowgt]

How much was the shipping weight of the Procharger? I would think the KB adds less weight than the Procharger since it is replacing the intake. I almost went with the Procharger just for the sound of it lol. Those things sound badass when you let off the throttle. What wheels do you use for the street?
I'm not sure what the shipping weight of the Procharger was. Remember the intake is only like 10lbs because it is plastic plus you have an extra heat exchanger, intercooler pump plus the intercooler fluid so I'd say a KB weighs more than a Procharger, but probably not by much.

I run the big and littles full time now. I haven't had my 18" wheels on in about a year and a half. I am looking at a shortened rear axle to fit my rear wheels better though.

[USMCPONY]

No you don't, you follow orders.

btw...
Thank you for your service!

Orders that only we (Marines) follow. Thus making our own rules. Thanks for the compliment. You can never hear that enough.

[USMCPONY]

I'm not sure what the shipping weight of the Procharger was. Remember the intake is only like 10lbs because it is plastic plus you have an extra heat exchanger, intercooler pump plus the intercooler fluid so I'd say a KB weighs more than a Procharger, but probably not by much.

I run the big and littles full time now. I haven't had my 18" wheels on in about a year and a half. I am looking at a shortened rear axle to fit my rear wheels better though.

Interesting, I would like to know the actual weight of both. Im going to set up mine for a road course. Most of the parts are lighter in weight. I would love to be around 3200 lbs with out driver. More realistically around 3300lbs.

[USMCPONY]

lol :)

hey sean, pm me your new official cell, i tried ringing ya last night and the # didn't work for shiznit

Im avoiding you lol

[k062693w]

Orders that only we (Marines) follow. Thus making our own rules. Thanks for the compliment. You can never hear that enough.

EXACTLY !!!! :bigthumb

SEMPER FI

[05yellowgt]

Without gutting some creature comforts it is going to be tough to get the car under 3500lbs with the KB. I'm talking sound deadening, bumper supports, AC, radio ect. These cars are built stout.

[Rick93coupe]

I am looking at a shortened rear axle to fit my rear wheels better though.

I stopped by the shop the other day and mentioned you needed to narrow the rearend a little, Mike said you were getting different wheels. It does need to tuck more of that tire. Otherwise looks good!:bigthumb

[05yellowgt]

Well first it was Greg Weld that was going to make wheels that fit, but its been over a year with nothing. The latest hope is Billet Specialties but no word yet.

[USMCPONY]

Without gutting some creature comforts it is going to be tough to get the car under 3500lbs with the KB. I'm talking sound deadening, bumper supports, AC, radio ect. These cars are built stout.

If I get the Griggs suspension package they promise over 250 lb weight loss. If that is true that would put me at 3290. Cobra carbon fiber racing seats around 3250 lbs. Rear seat delete at 3225 lbs. Light weight wheels around 3185 lbs. Light weight brakes around 3150 lbs. Sound accurate?

[USMCPONY]

EXACTLY !!!! :bigthumb

SEMPER FI

Hoorah!

[05yellowgt]

rear seat delete barely gets 10lbs. Nobody makes "lightweight" brakes for these cars either. There are plenty of 14" big brake kits but not much that is focused on lighter brakes unless you are talking aerospace or strange and those are drag brakes and not meant at all for road racing or street driving.

[USMCPONY]

rear seat delete barely gets 10lbs. Nobody makes "lightweight" brakes for these cars either. There are plenty of 14" big brake kits but not much that is focused on lighter brakes unless you are talking aerospace or strange and those are drag brakes and not meant at all for road racing or street driving.

Are you a member of S197forums.com? They have been weighing everything. According to them the rear seats weight 25 lbs and the seat belts and brackets weight 9 lbs. The rear seat delete weighs 9 lbs for a loss of a even 25lbs. Also strange makes a light weight brake kit. Not recommended for daily driving. With that said I barely drive my car anyway.
Here is a link:

http://s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=204689#post204689

Edit: on one thread he said the rear seat delete weighed 25lbs and on another he said 21lbs.

[05yellowgt]

I am a member there but haven't seen that thread yet.
Here is the delete I am going to get

http://www.rearseatdelete.com/mustangcoupe05.html

[USMCPONY]

I am a member there but haven't seen that thread yet.
Here is the delete I am going to get

http://www.rearseatdelete.com/mustangcoupe05.html

Looks good, I dont think they have a cargo area in their kit. That might save 2-5lbs. I dont know I would have to see both to compare. These guys claim they acually weighed everything that is posted.

[05yellowgt]

I've got my entire rear seat assembly out right now I'll try to weigh it to comfirm.

[USMCPONY]

I've got my entire rear seat assembly out right now I'll try to weigh it to comfirm.

They weighed the seat belts, brackets and any other misc. parts related to the rear seat. Thanks

[USMCPONY]

I've got my entire rear seat assembly out right now I'll try to weigh it to comfirm.

Any luck?