89 Mustang 5.0 LX vert.

[DeckerEnt]

Does a 44 oz cup from Speedway fit in there??

[Ryan218]

Does a 44 oz cup from Speedway fit in there??

havent tried it yet. sorry.

[MrsAPE]

sheesh Ryan..enquiring minds wanna know. :D

[19TbirdSC91]

Well done ryan, well done. It was fun coming over there and helping out a little with the intake swap, and getting drunk and entertaining you guys:eek:. Now you have to let me ride in it soon, and we'll have to race when I get my car all done too.

SEAN not Shane (inside joke)

[Ryan218]

haha sean that was a great night!

bring one to the curise in. we can have big group gathering to see if it fits!! :lol:

[DeckerEnt]

If I don't spill it on the way up, we will. LOL

[MrsAPE]

bring one to the curise in. we can have big group gathering to see if it fits!! :lol:

Smart!! Make sure I'm around cuz you know I just dying to know!! :lol:

[Ryan218]

lol well ill probaly get there a little later then most. i got to make a detour to piqua to pick up the old man lol. then ill take 70 from there to cincy. this time you'll hear me pull in haha.

[Ryan218]

anyway. i want a min of 300 rwhp by the end of this summer so ive been collection some more parts. hey why not :shrug: so far ive got a cam. looking for a set of GT40 heads. then the expensive piece which may take me till end of the year to get will be Vortech S-trim, or an older paxton unit if i come across a really good deal. i know that will put me a little over 300 at 5 lbs but i gotta keep it mild till im 18 and can put the man peddle in this thing! i know the aod will not like this car after the cam in installed and i find a set of heads for it. im just going to hold off on putting the cam and heads are instaled. im waiting till i find a set of heads and get a double roller timing chain for it and some 1.6 RR till i put it all in. been trying to find a set of crane 1.6 RR but having no such luck.

the cam is some what mild in lift but will work really well with boost.

anywho. the car feels slow to me :( aods suck. lol.

[Ryan218]

If I don't spill it on the way up, we will. LOL

haha well it dont have to be full to see if it fits!

[Ryan218]

welp i think the head gaskets on it are the cause of my over heating issues.

[19TbirdSC91]

welp i think the head gaskets on it are the cause of my over heating issues.

wow... what the hell happened!?

[Ryan218]

well the mustang is back in action! runs so much sronger now too!

[5.0calypso93lx]

what did you do to it

[DeckerEnt]

You need to describe the progress in your progress thread Ryan!!! LOL

[19TbirdSC91]

yeah no kiddin, you be typin like we know what your talkin about! lol. Details son, details!

[Ryan218]

timming was horrifically off. 20-25* base timing. ( no wonder it was no good and ran like shit ) timming is set at 12* now. by pass is on the water pump and is not kincked like it was. now it runs cooooool. went and got my auto meter sending unit.
have some vids of it from last weekend. now if shane would ever get out of his woman's ass he can come and put the vids on my computer. ( better be doing it tomm morning like her said or imma beat him over the head with a torque wrech!!!! )

tomm im going to take it for a few hour cruise since i dont have to work and i got the extra money to do so. get some picstures of it and such. and have a good time. gotta say, ive been in a shit mood the past week, getting my cars fixed and driving for the first time running right made me smile. laying some rubber is fun. ha. also now this makes me want to get a set of heads like now and throw the cam and gt 40 heads on! if only i could find a set like both of my budies did at the junkyard. to gt40 explorers were at the junkyard and i missed out!!! :mad: i think ill go there tomm too!!!

wanna go with sean? if so give me a call around 3:30.

[DeckerEnt]

Great to hear you got the bugs worked out. Have fun with it.

[Ryan218]

Great to hear you got the bugs worked out. Have fun with it.

trying too. lol. the ole man comes back into town tomm so there goes the fun! then he leaves again saturday so it starts back up :D

[MrsAPE]

psssst....my car is running!! looks like total crap but she runs...strong!

[Ryan218]

thats good ape! to bad its looking let a 50% chance for rain now sunday.

[Ryan218]

well, headgaskets poped on the way home from work today. burned 3 quarts of oil in 15x miles. there was 2 left in the oil pan after draining it. new oil and filter. started it. matter of 2 mins temp was at 220. shut it off. did a compression check. no good. done for.

what a nice way to end my day.

[Ryan218]

well, headgaskets poped on the way home from work today. burned 3 quarts of oil in 15x miles. there was 2 left in the oil pan after draining it. new oil and filter. started it. matter of 2 mins temp was at 220. shut it off. did a compression check. no good. done for.

what a nice way to end my day.

er. typo. 250*

[19TbirdSC91]

Damn man that sucks, i was really hoping when i was over there earlier that wasnt what it was :mad::( .... that's f'n lame! time to start tearing it apart, there's no antifreeze in your oil so your bottom end will be ok mang! We can have it fixed this weekend, and throw your cam in too at the same time. Let me know!

[Ryan218]

Damn man that sucks, i was really hoping when i was over there earlier that wasnt what it was :mad::( .... that's f'n lame! time to start tearing it apart, there's no antifreeze in your oil so your bottom end will be ok mang! We can have it fixed this weekend, and throw your cam in too at the same time. Let me know!

well there IS anti frezze in the oil after looking at it more closly it looks like coffe after cream is added. so tomm im going down to the u part it in the morning to see if there 98 mounty is still there with the 5.0. if so and i hear it run im going to buy the motor this weekend. after you left i did a compression test. and it was less then apealing to me. :(

[Ryan218]

went and bought a running explorer motor today. for a damn good price. :D

also got some other stuff...

so far ive got.

~ complete explorer motor. ( GT40P heads )
~ speed pro pistons (flat top) full floating pins with spiral locks. and a new set of forged rods with bolts with bronze bushing for the floating piston pin. ( thanks ape's family! )
~ rings ect for pistons
~ Steeda # 19 cam.
~ X303 cam
~ double roller timming chain.

know i still have alot left to buy. gonna start yanking the explorer motor apart sometime soon. its still in the back of my truck, ill un load it in the morning and get it on the engine stand.

Yes i know, i have two cams. gonna use the steeda cam though.

anyways. i few pics, im tired, sun burnt on top of sun burn and want to go to bed. enjoy.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/88Mustang302/0622091501.jpg
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[19TbirdSC91]

Ahh come on ryan! I know there are some cooler pictures than that!

[DeckerEnt]

Good to see you getting it figured out. Post up pics of the rebuild!!! It will pay off soon.

[Ryan218]

Good to see you getting it figured out. Post up pics of the rebuild!!! It will pay off soon.

it will be. tore the motor down last night with seans help. thanks bud. gonna wait to pull the heads till there ready to go off to the machine shop. but the motor was damn clean on the inside. no build up. just oil. onl problem is one intake bolt snapped in the head. and of course it was the last one. we tried heating it up and i cant get it out. so im just going to have the machine shop deal with it becasue i dont want to mess the head up.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/88Mustang302/0624090453.jpg

[19TbirdSC91]

it will be. tore the motor down last night with seans help. thanks bud. gonna wait to pull the heads till there ready to go off to the machine shop. but the motor was damn clean on the inside. no build up. just oil. onl problem is one intake bolt snapped in the head. and of course it was the last one. we tried heating it up and i cant get it out. so im just going to have the machine shop deal with it becasue i dont want to mess the head up.



Yeah no problem man, it was fun tearin her down. now you just have to send that stuff out to the machine shop so we can start building her up!

[Ryan218]

yupp thanks though. i need to find a machine shop that can hone the block, mill the heads, and extract that broken bolt local to me. anyone know of any good ones in columbus? area?

[Ryan218]

well now its at the point where its the waiting game. every machine shop ive called says the soonest they can get to it is 2 weeks. and i dont want to wait to weeks to just have the damn thing hot tanked. :mad: i know it dont take that long! so if anyone knows of one that can get it hot tanked alot quicker pass the info to me lol.

still has the crank in it. havent pulled it out yet becasue i dont feel like laying it on the garage floor.

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[Ryan218]

front clip is off the mustang right now, and all the accessories are off the motor. took and hour break and going back at it now! be posting pictures later tonight of the motor out of the car. then cleaning up of the engine bay starts.

explorer block is at the machine shop along with the heads, the heads are going to get worked over some. more details on that later. back to work!

[DeckerEnt]

Keep up the good work Ryan!!! It will all be worth it.

[19TbirdSC91]

That front clip wasn't exactly the most fun thing to take off, lol. But really it hasn't been too bad overall so far (knock on wood).

Sean

[Ryan218]

ok time for some pics.

block and heads are out now. so i pulled the engine from the stang. now its time to start on the engine bay.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/88Mustang302/3-1.jpg
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pulled the front clip of so i dont scratch the paint up.

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how the motor out of the stang sits right now.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/88Mustang302/7.jpg

[Ryan218]

getting closer. hot tanked. block prep then rob is putting in the cam bearings and freeze plugs for me.

i need a welder now. =/ and or a trailer. lol.


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[Ryan218]

ok well i started stripping the engine bay tonight. now ive run out of primer so a little over half the bay is primmed with one coat. its 5am parts stores dont open till 7am. so at 6 im going to go get breakfest then get back at it!

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[19TbirdSC91]

TOO MANY FUMES TOO MANY FUMES LMAO!

[Stangman]

Looks great! Remember to go to Ford and pick up the oil filter adaptor for the new explorer block!!!

You cant put a regular FL1A oil filter on those engines! You need a HUGE allen key to put the adapter in the motor, and it requires a little heat and some red lock-tite

BTW, why do you need a welder or a trailer?

[19TbirdSC91]

Looks great! Remember to go to Ford and pick up the oil filter adaptor for the new explorer block!!!

You cant put a regular FL1A oil filter on those engines! You need a HUGE allen key to put the adapter in the motor, and it requires a little heat and some red lock-tite

BTW, why do you need a welder or a trailer?

I'll answer that for him, lol, there's some rust in the engine bay that he needs to take care of, but I'm PRETTY sure that he's got someone lined up to do the job now.

Sean

[Ryan218]

I'll answer that for him, lol, there's some rust in the engine bay that he needs to take care of, but I'm PRETTY sure that he's got someone lined up to do the job now.

Sean

wasent even caused by rust. when i bought the car the strut towers were perfect. took it to 42 once and took it down the track 2 times. i dont see how that would of caused it but it baffles me. i was just surfact rust on it. it split the rail on the drivers side.. weird shit. :lol:

[Ryan218]

Looks great! Remember to go to Ford and pick up the oil filter adaptor for the new explorer block!!!

You cant put a regular FL1A oil filter on those engines! You need a HUGE allen key to put the adapter in the motor, and it requires a little heat and some red lock-tite

BTW, why do you need a welder or a trailer?

yeah i was wondering about that. i think im still going to just run a remotoe mouut filter :confused:

[redrocker]

i like the console idea . i want to do 1 for my car . what yr explorer did the cup holders come out of ? where they the front ones or rear ? tried to send you a message but your box was full .

[cobra429boss]

fill those holes lol .. i think i counted 100 lol

[Ryan218]

i like the console idea . i want to do 1 for my car . what yr explorer did the cup holders come out of ? where they the front ones or rear ? tried to send you a message but your box was full .

front from an 04 explorer.


fill those holes lol .. i think i counted 100 lol

at this point i dont have the time. i want the car done for the end of the year cruise and if i start filling engine bay holes its never going to be ready in time.

i can now see im an idiot. the place that painted the car back in 01 sprayed rubber under coating over the rusty frame rail on the driver side and did a hillby repair. its really bad the more i dug into it. bad enough to where a few hard lauches at the track with the new motor and it wouldnt suprise me if the k-member wouldnt of ripped away from the car. the passenger side is perfect. of course thats what happen when a car sits under a car port for 90% of its life with the passenger side to the house and drive side exposed. right now. i really dont know what to do.

to fix it im going to have to drop the k-member and get it out of the way. let the old man bitching start. he is already up my ass about this. im renting a storage unit or something this winter. im tired of this.

[DeckerEnt]

Grind out the rust and undercoating, and just weld plates over the areas inside and out. I went to the extreme on mine and had to replace the entire frame rail. You probably can get by with plates. Good luck with it!

[Ryan218]

going to end up grinding it. then cut out the bad section. about a foot worth. then sand blasting the inside of the rails to see of the bottom is rotted out. which i already know a small spot is right by the damn k member. which means its gonna have to come out. which means another aliment will have to be done. which means. this car isnt going to see the road again till 2010. fml

[MrsAPE]

you have friends in 'high' places..who are willing to help. It's like a group project! AND, it's get's my boys out of my hair!! Hang in there...it will be done.

[Ryan218]

very true. well im tearing into it monday morning. since its my day off.

[Ryan218]

ive seen alot worse but its frustrating for a true 48k car. passenger side is preferct.


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[MrsAPE]

Just looked at it on my phone...ewww...but you know what? I know you'll make it all pretty again!

[DeckerEnt]

That looks familiar. You are going to have to drop the k member to fix that.

[Stangman]

That looks familiar. You are going to have to drop the k member to fix that.

Yep, looks a little too close to the bottom to try and just plate in...

I welded the rails in Decker's car, and I'm getting ready to do the rails in Steves LX's wifes coupe...

How did I get this job again?? LOL

[Ryan218]

there no way its going to see the road this year now. absolutely no way in hell. i still have to get the heads machines and all new valve train. still have all the **** left to buy for the top end so an easy 600 worth of ****. and now add on having to drop the k member cutting the thing up and all this crap. oh and another aliment now because im sure threes no way im going to get it back into the same spot.

i havent touched the pos all week. nor do i plan to anytime soon!

[Stimmel]

Hey sorry for not calling you back today man this rain blows I cant wait to take my car apart soon and find the same problem reason enough for me to buy a tube k member

p.s. I finally decided to check this site out ha

[Stangman]

there no way its going to see the road this year now. absolutely no way in hell. i still have to get the heads machines and all new valve train. still have all the **** left to buy for the top end so an easy 600 worth of ****. and now add on having to drop the k member cutting the thing up and all this crap. oh and another aliment now because im sure threes no way im going to get it back into the same spot.

i havent touched the pos all week. nor do i plan to anytime soon!

Honestly, if you just took the K-member out by unbolting it after taking out the springs then in theory you should be able to put it back together without an alignment.

Oh, and used parts rule for building a car on a budget... you should see the mounds of parts I have for my '88 :D

[DeckerEnt]

Before you unbolt the k member, mark it in a few spots. That way it will go back exactly in the same place. As long as you don't turn the tie rods or anything, you should be good! Good luck with it.

[Ryan218]

pulled k member. then started grinding. kept getting worse and worse and worse. metal should shatter like glass lol. at this point i need to find a donner car with good metal to cut up and put in mine. a fox that has been wrecked in the back end or something.

=/

[Ryan218]

still need to keep going at it.


http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/88Mustang302/0726090150a.jpg
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at least my oil pan is clean, :shrug:

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/88Mustang302/0726090151.jpg


and this thing is in my damn way!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t302/88Mustang302/0726090156.jpg

[Ryan218]

well the goal was 13's or bust...and its bust. time to find a new stang. =/

[Stangman]

Oh dude.. if thats all of the frame that's rotted out... that's easy... Just ask Decker!

[cobra429boss]

junk it man, it will come right back later.. I know thats sucks but when theres rust im not into that

[Stangman]

junk it man, it will come right back later.. I know thats sucks but when theres rust im not into that

Seriously??? On a car with 48K??? You've got to be nuts?!?!?!

I've seen cars like that and worse repaired to better than new condition with just a little work and some material...

Just go look here:

http://www.stangbangerz.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34287

Ryan's car is a gorgeous fox vert, go look at the cars in the links I posted on his part-out thread...

It's a lot easier than it looks. The shock towers and the fender aprons will stay put when the rails are gone. Simply drill out the spot welds on the rails, find a set of rust free rails (it's easier than you think) Split them off the car, then tack them in place, line up your crossmember (using the rear bolt holes as a guide) then finish welding it up. I've done it to 1 car, I'll be doing it to 3 more in the next few months. I'll do a complete write up on frame rail replacement 101 here in a few weeks when I work on Steves LX's wifes coupe...

It's not worth killing a car that good looking especially when he's gotten that far on it... why not go a little further?

when people ask what you've done to it, you can tell em you replaced the front rails they won't know what to say! Just ask Keith Decker!

[DeckerEnt]

Ryan, you can't junk it. You have too much blood sweat and tears in it! If I can do to mine what I did and not push it out in front of a truck, then you can fix yours. If you can't find rust free frame rails, then use 2"x3" tube. Fits in perfectly!!!
Oh, tannerite could take care of that TV for you.

[R825OH]

junk it man, it will come right back later.. I know thats sucks but when theres rust im not into that

You must drive something "new". Foxbody 'verts are really dissappearing. Ryans car is a low mileage car that needs saving, not scrapping.

[Stangman]

I just noticed you said that the drivers side is rusty... wow...

Don't give up because ONE side is rusty... if the other side is perfect then thats half the battle!!

have you looked at my car and Ricks Capri yet? The capri alone should empower you to keep the car!

Stick with it brother you'll get it! :bigthumb

[Ryan218]

drive side is the worst. passenger side is rusted just not nearly as bad. floor boards ect. its done with. i dont have the know how to fix it. i work close to 35 hours a week. i barley have time as it is. school starts soon. winter is on its way here. and the garage needs opened up for the trucks to be in.

at this point. i think im just not ment to have a mustang. everyone ive ever had has got messed up...totaled...rusted to hell and back.

[MrsAPE]

Truly, my little heart breaks for you. 3rd times a charm though!!

[Stangman]

drive side is the worst. passenger side is rusted just not nearly as bad. floor boards ect. its done with. i dont have the know how to fix it. i work close to 35 hours a week. i barley have time as it is. school starts soon. winter is on its way here. and the garage needs opened up for the trucks to be in.

at this point. i think im just not ment to have a mustang. everyone ive ever had has got messed up...totaled...rusted to hell and back.

i know how you feel. i work a full 40. i know what its like to not have much time. and ill tell u i didnt know what to do at one time. but learning it saved me a lot of money in the long run. i got tired of seeing perfect rust free foxes going for stuoid money and said thats enough... i will MAKE mine nice. i even started with a four cylinder car... that makes things difficult. but if iu gotra do what you gotta do... then you gotta do it. best of luck to ya. tell your dad to fix that mustang ii now

[86pnygt]

actually that was the third time. he has had an 83 conv. that he had before he could drive. then he had the 88 that was totalled, and now the 89 with the rust. hang in there son!

[k062693w]

A good dad would just give him the 86 Vert !!! LOL

[86pnygt]

the good dad has bought all these cars he has had. he could start on the 76. haha

[Ryan218]

the good dad has bought all these cars he has had. he could start on the 76. haha

its why i keep you around :D we will put the exhasut from my car on yours soon. yours is to quite :flipoff:

[MrsAPE]

Then I got nothing if this was the third!! Sorry dude, it was just not meant to be!!
Kidding....you know I am. It's in your blood..you will get another when the time comes.

[Ryan218]

you know something ive reailzed. of the mustangs ive had, ive never got to drive one in the summer. i has one in the winter. soon as weather starts turning boom totaled. then this one. blows up and had major strutal rot.

[86pnygt]

Yes you have. I let you drive mine once in the summer, after the 88 was totalled.

[Ryan218]

Yes you have. I let you drive mine once in the summer, after the 88 was totalled.

that was a pitty me drive and you know it :mad:

[cobra429boss]

i wasnt saying junk it well i did but i meant you need to get it fixed right.. im not into rust at all

[MrsAPE]

that was a pitty me drive and you know it :mad:

:lol: That was parent love!!

If I give you mine to drive for a day this summer, will you also do install on the cup holder?! You gotta pay for your own gas though!! :D