Official Baddest of the S197's thread

[USMCPONY]

I was curious which members have a bad ass S197. What are the modifications, 1/4 times, hp/tq numbers, how much time and money is invested, is it built for 1/4, autocross, show car or just a all around bad ass street car? Are you happy with your mods or would you go a different route? What are your next mods? I'm looking for street vehicles only. I'm not interested in race only vehicles. So if your car can't do a 100 mile trip easily please don't post. Cars do not have to have high horse power numbers or thousands of dollars invested to qualify for this thread. I would like to see who is lurking around and most importantly I would like to use this thread for informational purposes for those interested in modifying their S197. Thank you for your time and effort.

Please post pictures with your information!

[USMCPONY]

Im trying to get super car performance from my Mustang. I know its hard to do but I'm trying. The car is built for all around performance. So far I have $25K invested in modifiactions and a years worth of work. Mods are Polished Kenne Bell 2.6L with 8 rib kit, intercooler, 60 lb. injectors, Kenne Bell Boost a Pump, Mafia, Kooks Long tubes, Kooks X-Pipes with cats, Magna flow cat back exhaust, Spyder shaft aluminum driveshaft, FR 3:73 gears, Shelby wheels, Toyo Proxes 4 295's in back and 275's up front, and Eibach Pro kit springs. Car made 487 RWHP/451 RWTQ with 10 lb. pulley. Future mods are built 302 stroker, (undecided) 150 hp NOS kit, up graded fuel system, 6 spd, big brake kit, some wieght reduction, and to finish it off full 1G suspension kit. I want the car to have 650 rwhp with out nitrous and capable of pulling 1 G on the skid pad. My most noticable mods was 3.73 gears and aluminum driveshaft. Both were installed together. I dont have 1/4 times because my tune isnt dialed in yet. The car pushed you into the seat through all 5 gears and can spin sideways in 3rd at 90 mph and the eibach springs handle very well but Im still not happy with it yet.

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk98/usmcpony/DSC00628-1.jpg?t=1217833712

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk98/usmcpony/DSC00631.jpg?t=1217833888

[holeshot]

C&L cold air intake, Modular Depot tune, O/R H-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, 4.10's, Eibach Sportline Springs, Steeda LCA's & UCA, 20" Shelby Razors.

I dont have 1/4 mile times but at MD it was putting down 288hp/305tq at the wheels. I wish I had a blower :drool:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u16/obe80/P4300612-1.jpg

[Walter]

holeshot, nice ride! Clean and sleek.

[05yellowgt]

I don't have any pics handy on this PC but here we go.

I've got over $30k invested in mods on the car. It's gone through a bunch of changes trying to get the supporting mods where I want them before installing the F1A Procharger on the car. The current iteration of mods consists of:

JLT Intake
Mac 1 3/4 longtubes
Mac O/R Prochamber
CMCP deletes
E85 Tune by Dayton Performance
TR6060 6 speed (was formerly Viper Spec T56)
Spec Stage 3+ with low pedal pressure option
Spec Aluminum Flywheel
Detroit Tru-Trac Diff
4.30 Gears
Lower control arms
BMR Extreme Ant-Roll Bar
BMR K-member
BMR A-arms
BMR radiator support/front swaybar delete
Greg Weld Skinnies
Weld XP 15x9 rears with 275/50/15 Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials

So far the best the car has gone with the T56 and no skinnies up front is a 12.85@106.6mph. I hope to improve on that before dropping the new motor in. I've added skinnies up front and switched to the TR6060 which has a 2.97 1st gear vs. a 2.66 1st on the T56. This should hopefully let me improve on the 1.73 best ever 60' time so far.

I have a 302 stroker being built by Dayton Performance and they are also porting a set of heads that will have oversized valves and custom blower cams with VCT eliminated.

Waiting in the wings to support that are:
Fore Precision Billet Triple Pump Hat with 3 GT(40) pumps, upgraded lines, Fore 3v Fuel rails, MDM Mega Driver FPDM, and a Procharger F1A kit with race intercooler and polished blower. I am going to eventually be running 120 or 160lb injectors to support the car running on E85, along with the injectors will have to go an injector driver since the factory ECU can't run low impedance injectors.

The end goal is ~800rwhp and whatever ET's I can muster trying to put that to the ground with drag radials and the 6 speed. I want to be able to drive to and from the track and only have to worry about changing air pressure in the tires, run the number, re-inflate and head home.

[USMCPONY]

C&L cold air intake, Modular Depot tune, O/R H-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, 4.10's, Eibach Sportline Springs, Steeda LCA's & UCA, 20" Shelby Razors.

I dont have 1/4 mile times but at MD it was putting down 288hp/305tq at the wheels. I wish I had a blower :drool:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u16/obe80/P4300612-1.jpg


Nice! I almost went with those wheels. With my JLT CAI, LT headers, catted X-pipe, Magna flow catback I estimated about 295 to 305rwhp.

[USMCPONY]

05YellowGT,

Thats a hell of a build! I almost went with the Procharger but chose the KB for the look and instant power. How much is Dayton 5.0 charging you for your long block?

[05yellowgt]

I'd have to dig up all the receipts as I've been piecing together all the parts a little at a time. The most expensive single purchase for the motor so far has been the CP pistons. I had a custom set made for the stroker shortblock. They are sexy to look at and are designed with valve reliefs for up to 0.600" lift cams. Honestly I used to have a spreadsheet with every part that I bought, itemized even separating labor from parts cost, gas, car washes, ect. The numbers started to get so high that I decided to stop counting because I could put one hell of a down payment on a house!

[firestang70]

UDPs,delete plates,4.10,LCAs,UCA,panhard bar,axle brace,CAI. Ran a 12.74 N/A,shooting for 12.50 N/A this year. 100 sot made 386/528 to the wheels. Best nitrous has been 12.01 now (my 26" DRs are killing me) shooting for an 11.70 this year. Future mods are a forged bottom end, 6060 tranny, Powerhouse 70mm single turbo, 6 point cage once the car is paid off.

[BlazinEagle]

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk98/usmcpony/DSC00631.jpg?t=1217833888[/quote]

What side scoops are these? I have the cervini window scoops but I am not sure which set of side scoops I want yet?
Sweet ass stang though!

[plattner01]

those side scoops look like those from shelby,

[USMCPONY]

UDPs,delete plates,4.10,LCAs,UCA,panhard bar,axle brace,CAI. Ran a 12.74 N/A,shooting for 12.50 N/A this year. 100 sot made 386/528 to the wheels. Best nitrous has been 12.01 now (my 26" DRs are killing me) shooting for an 11.70 this year. Future mods are a forged bottom end, 6060 tranny, Powerhouse 70mm single turbo, 6 point cage once the car is paid off.

You have 528 rwtq? You might be buying a short block before you think. Who knows that could be a good thing. How much of a difference did you see with delete plates and the panhard bar? I would like to see some pics.



BlazinEagle, There Cervini's side scoops.

[Rabnud]

those side scoops look like those from shelby,

IMO, I think more of the s197's should have them! I think they really make the profile of the stang stand out a bit more.

[USMCPONY]

those side scoops look like those from shelby,

Is that your car at MD with the Roush front end? I noticed they took the blower off. What else are you getting done to it?

[firestang70]

You have 528 rwtq? You might be buying a short block before you think. Who knows that could be a good thing. How much of a difference did you see with delete plates and the panhard bar? I would like to see some pics.



BlazinEagle, There Cervini's side scoops.
I run a pretty safe tune and run the nitrous occasionaly. I am awaiting the 3v aluminator. The delete plates cost me about 1.5 mpg. It seems to pull a little harder up top. On FI it maybe worth it, not on a NA car IMO. The panhard bar lets me center the rear axle,needed when lowered.

[05yellowgt]

I picked up about 8-10 rwhp and rwtq with delete plates. I lost about 1mpg, worth it for a free mod IMO. I had a set of delete plates made from my stockers.

[satan jamez]

What the heck are "delete plates"?

[plattner01]

Is that your car at MD with the Roush front end? I noticed they took the blower off. What else are you getting done to it?

yes it is :eek:, having new throttle body added, new brakes from brembo,rotors also front and back 14in in front 13in in back, new rims from forgeline zx3r
19in , billet fuel rails, bigger oil pan.

already on car , 4.10 gear,sct livewire, alum spydershaft 4 in, super charger high output kit, nexus gauges on dash and pillar, gauge pods from speed of sound, gt 500 fuel pump,bmr lower control arm,ford racing muffler,gms tire fryer ,pfab intercooler res tank, roush front end, 38 lb injectors. tein adjustable shock system :bounce: and tuned by KenB
all done by modular depot

will add some pics later

[plattner01]

usmcpony did you get your car done at md? I will say it is a really nice car.

[USMCPONY]

usmcpony did you get your car done at md? I will say it is a really nice car.

Most of it was done by MD. My car was down there off and on for about 2 months and your car was there the whole time. How many miles do you have on your car? 50 lol? I am dropping it off again next Monday so Ken can mees with the tune a little bit. If you dont mind I would like to get together and compare the performance of the whipple to the KB? That is if you ever pick up your car. I would like to see the differences between the two.

[USMCPONY]

What the heck are "delete plates"?

Delete plates are just under the intake manifold. Stock ones restrict alot of air flow. Adding slighted ported ones or after market ones generally add around 10 to 15 hp.

[USMCPONY]

usmcpony did you get your car done at md? I will say it is a really nice car.


Here is the link where Ken posted my car on MD's website.

[plattner01]

Most of it was done by MD. My car was down there off and on for about 2 months and your car was there the whole time. How many miles do you have on your car? 50 lol? I am dropping it off again next Monday so Ken can mees with the tune a little bit. If you dont mind I would like to get together and compare the performance of the whipple to the KB? That is if you ever pick up your car. I would like to see the differences between the two.
ok so i did see your car down there at md, about 100 miles:eek: on it so far, have been out of town for a few months . but i am finally back and looking forward to driving it, if i can ever quit adding things to it. As far as getting together and compare the performace of the two cars np. it will most likey be about 2 more weeks before the car is out of the md shop. i'll shoot you a pm when to meet.

[Holly]

http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk98/usmcpony/DSC00628-1.jpg?t=1217833712



:drool:

[USMCPONY]

ok so i did see your car down there at md, about 100 miles:eek: on it so far, have been out of town for a few months . but i am finally back and looking forward to driving it, if i can ever quit adding things to it. As far as getting together and compare the performace of the two cars np. it will most likey be about 2 more weeks before the car is out of the md shop. i'll shoot you a pm when to meet.

If it only has around a 100 miles I would be careful until you break in the bottom end.

[USMCPONY]

:drool:


Thank you

[USMCPONY]

Come on guys I know there is more than this out there. You worked hard on your car so post it up.

[USMCPONY]

I finally got my tune sorted out. Ken said the float in the by pass valve was stuck shut on a bur. That caused it to hesitate everytime I shifted and to sputter and misfire when I shift into 3rd gear. The car is running better now but not completely. Here is my latest dyno, its a little less power than before.

http://www.modulardepotvideos.com/user_video_detail.php?mId=6883

[plattner01]

i was wondering what your car was doing down there last week , when i stopped by to see if the new wheels came in for my ride and the other stuff was installed.

[USMCPONY]

i was wondering what your car was doing down there last week , when i stopped by to see if the new wheels came in for my ride and the other stuff was installed.

I saw your car there I was wondering why yours was still there. The mods you told me sounded like a simple install. How long does it take to get the rims? and what brand?

Also I think a full roush kit would really look bad ass on your car. Maybe a P51 clone.

[plattner01]

forgeline are the wheels , got them last week but the paint job on them was wrong so MD sent them back , the brake install cant be done until the rims come back cause they are brembo 14in rotors in front and 13 in rotors in back , and require 19 in or better rims to put on , and the oil pan they put on and the metco fuel rails still need to be added. i hope it gets done shortly im getting anxious to drive it .

[USMCPONY]

forgeline are the wheels , got them last week but the paint job on them was wrong so MD sent them back , the brake install cant be done until the rims come back cause they are brembo 14in rotors in front and 13 in rotors in back , and require 19 in or better rims to put on , and the oil pan they put on and the metco fuel rails still need to be added. i hope it gets done shortly im getting anxious to drive it .

It has been at MD for a long time. I dont see how you can do it.

[craigels]

I vote Vinny Barber's car as "Baddest S197"


Craig

[KenB]

It has been at MD for a long time. I dont see how you can do it.


Masterpieces take time. Ask Vinny Barber. :cool1:

[USMCPONY]

I vote Vinny Barber's car as "Baddest S197"


Craig

This is for street cars only! Vinny's car isnt a street car.

[craigels]

This is for street cars only! Vinny's car isnt a street car.

You never specified that in your first post. And if we wanted to prove a point we could just put an alternator on it and call it a street car. Vinny still gets my vote!


Craig

[USMCPONY]

You never specified that in your first post. And if we wanted to prove a point we could just put an alternator on it and call it a street car. Vinny still gets my vote!


Craig

Did you even read the first post? I did mention it. Vinny's car is badass but it is in no way a street car.

[firestang70]

Will be taking the nitrous off soon. Will be adding cams soon. LTs this winter and possibly doing the heads. Looking for 11s NA with those mods completed. USMCPONY why haven't you run that car yet?

[USMCPONY]

Will be taking the nitrous off soon. Will be adding cams soon. LTs this winter and possibly doing the heads. Looking for 11s NA with those mods completed. USMCPONY why haven't you run that car yet?

I had a problem with the tune and didnt want to risk blowing the motor. I had it re-tuned a couple weeks ago its alot better but it isnt perfect. This winter Im putting a built motor in it. I also need stickier tires. I also work 2nd shift so Im working at the same time the tracks are open. When Im home Im working on my 347 Sc fox body. My dad and I just started it up yesterday and should have it at MD in a couple weeks.

[firestang70]

I had a problem with the tune and didnt want to risk blowing the motor. I had it re-tuned a couple weeks ago its alot better but it isnt perfect. This winter Im putting a built motor in it. I also need stickier tires. I also work 2nd shift so Im working at the same time the tracks are open. When Im home Im working on my 347 Sc fox body. My dad and I just started it up yesterday and should have it at MD in a couple weeks.

Ahh that makes sense. I thought you would have run it at the track by now. If you want to meet up at the track I will let you use my DRs for some passes.

[USMCPONY]

Ahh that makes sense. I thought you would have run it at the track by now. If you want to meet up at the track I will let you use my DRs for some passes.


That sounds great! What size and rims?

[craigels]

Did you even read the first post? I did mention it. Vinny's car is badass but it is in no way a street car.

Yes I did...


What are the modifications, 1/4 times, hp/tq numbers, how much time and money is invested, is it built for 1/4, autocross, show car or just a all around bad ass street car?

[firestang70]

17 by 8 with 275/40/17. Yes they should work on your car without a problem.

[USMCPONY]

Yes I did...

It also says make a 100 mile trip easily. Yours looks nice why dont you post?

[USMCPONY]

i was wondering what your car was doing down there last week , when i stopped by to see if the new wheels came in for my ride and the other stuff was installed.

Did you get the wheels yet? Are you going to the cruise in?

[KenB]

Did you get the wheels yet? Are you going to the cruise in?

Wheels are on. Brakes will be on by Monday then the final tune. So no, he's not going to the cruise with the car.


Ken

[plattner01]

but i'm still excited about getting the wheels on and brakes. And also the fuel rails on

[USMCPONY]

Wheels are on. Brakes will be on by Monday then the final tune. So no, he's not going to the cruise with the car.


Ken

Im surprise you didnt show up. But I guess your busy for this weekend. Are you racing JPC this weekend?

[USMCPONY]

A little update on my car. The car is at MD for some suspension work and a new clutch. I had them install Steeda lower control arms, Steeda Upper control arms, Steeda Panhard bar, Steeda light wieght radiator support, Spec Stang 3 Clutch, Spec stage 3 Aluminum flywheel, and spec stage 3 pressure plate. I havent picked the car up because Ken is retuning the car. I will let you know how it hooks and rides.

[plattner01]

here she is after last round of mods. currently she is back at modular depot for 4.6 aluminator block,tci auto shifter,and a few other things that i cant remember cause i'm half asleep.
and a pic of my new dd a blue mustang gthttp://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/skullzero/nmra%20finals%202008/dragracefinal2008214.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/skullzero/nmra%20finals%202008/dragracefinal2008206.jpghttp://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/skullzero/nmra%20finals%202008/dragracefinal2008202.jpg
new dd for awhile
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/skullzero/2003%20mustang%20gt/8951059036_253250173_IM1_08_565x421.jpg

[USMCPONY]

Looking good, hopefully I can get my car from MD soon so I can get it repainted.

[plattner01]

so what paint colors and design??

[USMCPONY]

so what paint colors and design??

Im going with the same colors. I might put black stripes on it this time and I might do alot of custom body work. If it goes as planned this car could be a Sema winner.

[plattner01]

might get the new one the blue repainted needs it in a few spots.

[USMCPONY]

I had my car wieghed at MD with four corner scales. Greg said it weighed in at 3550 lbs. Time to get this pig on a diet. Anyone have ideas? So far my light weight mods are: Aluminum DS, Aluminum flywheel, Steeda light weight radiator support, Steeda UCA(Only a couple pounds saved), Steeda LCA(Only a couple pounds saved). Im probly going to put a BMR K-member and A-arms.

[satan jamez]

Subscribing to the weight loss.

If someone can get one of these at 3,000# and still be streetable i'd buy one, lol.

[USMCPONY]

C&L cold air intake, Modular Depot tune, O/R H-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, 4.10's, Eibach Sportline Springs, Steeda LCA's & UCA, 20" Shelby Razors.

I dont have 1/4 mile times but at MD it was putting down 288hp/305tq at the wheels. I wish I had a blower :drool:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u16/obe80/P4300612-1.jpg

Hey holeshot, any updates. Your ride looks sweet

[USMCPONY]

Subscribing to the weight loss.

If someone can get one of these at 3,000# and still be streetable i'd buy one, lol.

Its possible but hard to do. If I go with Griggs GR40TT suspension package they claim that alone with reduce over 250 lbs. I wonder how accurate that is. Not to mention it costs $15,000. A little high priced for me.

[BlazinEagle]

Mine is extremly dirty right now but I finally got a day off so I decided to take a couple pics.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd250/blazin_eagle/028.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd250/blazin_eagle/029.jpg
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd250/blazin_eagle/030.jpg

[05yellowgt]

Looks good but you have nothing on my car for the dirtiest S197. haha

[1992MustangDW]

blazin you have probally one of my favorites, anything special under that big hood.

[BlazinEagle]

Nothing special yet. Only mod is a k&N intake, but I am going to pick up a SCT X3 in the next 3 weeks.
In the next year I am going to go with a set of long tube headers, off road h pipe, not sure what brand mufflers yet (probably flows).
I have to install a set of GT500 lower control arms and the rear window louvers that are sitting in the garage waiting for warmer weather.


I got the hood in anticipation of a kenne bell for the future!!!

[USMCPONY]

Nothing special yet. Only mod is a k&N intake, but I am going to pick up a SCT X3 in the next 3 weeks.
In the next year I am going to go with a set of long tube headers, off road h pipe, not sure what brand mufflers yet (probably flows).
I have to install a set of GT500 lower control arms and the rear window louvers that are sitting in the garage waiting for warmer weather.


I got the hood in anticipation of a kenne bell for the future!!!

Nice car, why did you buy a hood for the Kenne Bell? The Kb will fit under a factory hood. I would becareful buying the SCT X3. I bought one from MD and had to return it. Ken warned me about the X3 being so new. They needed to fix a few bugs in the system. Hopefully SCT has fixed them by now.

[05yellowgt]

Just a heads up those GT500 LCA's won't be much of an improvement. The only difference between them and the GT LCA's are a slightly stiffer bushings.

[USMCPONY]

Just a heads up those GT500 LCA's won't be much of an improvement. The only difference between them and the GT LCA's are a slightly stiffer bushings.

I agree, Im not sure what your goals are (Blazin). If you want better parts I would go with BMR, Steeda or the best which is Griggs IMO. The GT500 LCA'a are almost the same as the GT's. I noticed a decent improvement in the Steeda LCA and UCA on my car. Just my 2 cents.

[USMCPONY]

17 by 8 with 275/40/17. Yes they should work on your car without a problem.

Firestang70, I saw your car at MD. What is next on the mod list?

[firestang70]

Firestang70, I saw your car at MD. What is next on the mod list?
Have it start and idle.

[Predator]

Back in Aug. I bought my 07' GT with about 5K miles. It's Torch Red with black leather, 5 speed, factory 3.55 gears and 17" silver painted billet style fact rims. Only mods at that time were a Flowmaster cat-back. And with that its put down 268 RWHP and 285 RWTQ on Dayton Performance's dyno. A Pro 5.0 shifter and a Spec3+ clutch and lightweight flywheel. One piece heavy-duty drive shaft from Coast Driveline to handle all the torque I'm going to throw at it. Just had the Kenne Bell 2.6L supercharger kit installed at the beginning of fall. It made 10.8 psi of boost and 470 RWHP and 432 RWTQ on the Dayton Performance dynojet with a SCT X3 tune. After throwing some belts I installed a Thump RRR Racing belt tensioner. I have a lot of things I'd like to do with this car... Including stripes, a body kit and wheels. Unfortunately I got layed-off a few months ago so this is how its going to sit for a while.

[Predator]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c226/Predator97/Project%20KB%2007%20Mustang%20GT/DSC00513.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c226/Predator97/Project%20KB%2007%20Mustang%20GT/DSC00527.jpg

[RIXXX93GT]

Back in Aug. I bought my 07' GT with about 5K miles. It's Torch Red with black leather, 5 speed, factory 3.55 gears and 17" silver painted billet style fact rims. Only mods at that time were a Flowmaster cat-back. And with that its put down 268 RWHP and 285 RWTQ on Dayton Performance's dyno. A Pro 5.0 shifter and a Spec3+ clutch and lightweight flywheel. One piece heavy-duty drive shaft from Coast Driveline to handle all the torque I'm going to throw at it. Just had the Kenne Bell 2.6L supercharger kit installed at the beginning of fall. It made 10.8 psi of boost and 470 RWHP and 432 RWTQ on the Dayton Performance dynojet with a SCT X3 tune. After throwing some belts I installed a Thump RRR Racing belt tensioner. I have a lot of things I'd like to do with this car... Including stripes, a body kit and wheels. Unfortunately I got layed-off a few months ago so this is how its going to sit for a while.


Damn, I cant wait to see your car. I cant believe I havent caught it at the shop yet.

[USMCPONY]

Have it start and idle.

So it not starting at all?

[USMCPONY]

Back in Aug. I bought my 07' GT with about 5K miles. It's Torch Red with black leather, 5 speed, factory 3.55 gears and 17" silver painted billet style fact rims. Only mods at that time were a Flowmaster cat-back. And with that its put down 268 RWHP and 285 RWTQ on Dayton Performance's dyno. A Pro 5.0 shifter and a Spec3+ clutch and lightweight flywheel. One piece heavy-duty drive shaft from Coast Driveline to handle all the torque I'm going to throw at it. Just had the Kenne Bell 2.6L supercharger kit installed at the beginning of fall. It made 10.8 psi of boost and 470 RWHP and 432 RWTQ on the Dayton Performance dynojet with a SCT X3 tune. After throwing some belts I installed a Thump RRR Racing belt tensioner. I have a lot of things I'd like to do with this car... Including stripes, a body kit and wheels. Unfortunately I got layed-off a few months ago so this is how its going to sit for a while.

Thats a nice list. What body kit and wheels are you getting?

[firestang70]

So it not starting at all?
No I was a dummy and fried my PCM and some other issue. The PCM is replaced for now but there is another issue and the car won't start. So now Ken and the others are stuck fixing my screw up.:(

[USMCPONY]

No I was a dummy and fried my PCM and some other issue. The PCM is replaced for now but there is another issue and the car won't start. So now Ken and the others are stuck fixing my screw up.:(

Let me guess, you was installing a supercharger and forgot to disconnect your battery and arched out and fried the PCM. Just a guess but I here it happens allot so I am assuming you did the same thing. If that is true what supercharger did you get? and how much is a PCM?

[05yellowgt]

If you need a spare computer I have a CDC3 code ECU sitting at the house.

[firestang70]

Let me guess, you was installing a supercharger and forgot to disconnect your battery and arched out and fried the PCM. Just a guess but I here it happens allot so I am assuming you did the same thing. If that is true what supercharger did you get? and how much is a PCM?
Bingo! So we replaced the pcu with a temp one. Its showing code 2107? Throttle Body Actuator? I swapped tbs w/o change. They are back tracking the problem. Unfortunately for me there is a line of cars in front of me. I need to get some seat time on the car for some events. The car is brand new diff tires,PA,diff clutch (not in yet) so I need to adjust. So if you've heard of this before if you know of any possibilities? It cranks ,won't turn over.

[firestang70]

If you need a spare computer I have a CDC3 code ECU sitting at the house.
Thanks Jon I will let you know brother.

[USMCPONY]

Bingo! So we replaced the pcu with a temp one. Its showing code 2107? Throttle Body Actuator? I swapped tbs w/o change. They are back tracking the problem. Unfortunately for me there is a line of cars in front of me. I need to get some seat time on the car for some events. The car is brand new diff tires,PA,diff clutch (not in yet) so I need to adjust. So if you've heard of this before if you know of any possibilities? It cranks ,won't turn over.

Damn pretty good guess. Unfortunatly I do not know and way to fix this. MD is probly your best bet. So you havent driven the car since the install? What clutch did you get? What SC did you get?

[firestang70]

Damn pretty good guess. Unfortunatly I do not know and way to fix this. MD is probly your best bet. So you havent driven the car since the install? What clutch did you get? What SC did you get?
Good guess or you saw it on s197.:D Yeah Ken shop is the only one who has ever touched the car. Nope won't start. I am going to run a Spec 3+ and AL flywheel. I have a Whipple HO Gen 1.

[USMCPONY]

Good guess or you saw it on s197.:D Yeah Ken shop is the only one who has ever touched the car. Nope won't start. I am going to run a Spec 3+ and AL flywheel. I have a Whipple HO Gen 1.

Hmmm, I may of read it on S197 not realizing it was you. I have read this happening to allot (about 5 people) of people who decide to install the SC on their own. Let me know how your clutch feels. My car shakes during take off. Ken said it will get better after it breaks in.

[05yellowgt]

I love my Stage 3+. Smooth as butter while driving after break-in.

[USMCPONY]

I love my Stage 3+. Smooth as butter while driving after break-in.

How was the break in? I was shakes a little and almost feels like its going to stahl.

[05yellowgt]

Are you trying to slip the clutch like the stock unit? I'm used to driving the regular Spec stage 3 and it is more of an on/off type clutch being a 6 puck design. The Stage 3+ grabs hard too but can be driven a little more like a stock clutch can. I had the very slightest chatter on mine in the beginning but a lot of it has to do with driving style.

[USMCPONY]

Are you trying to slip the clutch like the stock unit? I'm used to driving the regular Spec stage 3 and it is more of an on/off type clutch being a 6 puck design. The Stage 3+ grabs hard too but can be driven a little more like a stock clutch can. I had the very slightest chatter on mine in the beginning but a lot of it has to do with driving style.

I slip the clutch a little so it wont stahl. It will shake till about 5-10 mph. I have the Spec stage 3 and aluminum flywheel. Isnt that what you have?

[05yellowgt]

I had the regular stage 3 with stock flywheel and now have the stage 3+ with aluminum flywheel. The regular stage 3 for me required a quick slip and then go. It never really jerked or bucked at low rpm unless you really tried to slip it a lot.

[USMCPONY]

I had the regular stage 3 with stock flywheel and now have the stage 3+ with aluminum flywheel. The regular stage 3 for me required a quick slip and then go. It never really jerked or bucked at low rpm unless you really tried to slip it a lot.

Mine jerks and bucks too. I have about 200 miles on the clutch. Did your car stop doing it with the Stage 3+?

[05yellowgt]

The stage 3+ is a dream of a clutch for being able to hold 800ftlbs. I'll let you try it out at the SBZ cruise if you would like.

[USMCPONY]

The stage 3+ is a dream of a clutch for being able to hold 800ftlbs. I'll let you try it out at the SBZ cruise if you would like.

Thanks man, are you going to take me a spin in that bad boy?

[05yellowgt]

I think that can be arranged.

[USMCPONY]

I think that can be arranged.

Sweet, cant wait!

[USMCPONY]

I don't have any pics handy on this PC but here we go.

I've got over $30k invested in mods on the car. It's gone through a bunch of changes trying to get the supporting mods where I want them before installing the F1A Procharger on the car. The current iteration of mods consists of:

JLT Intake
Mac 1 3/4 longtubes
Mac O/R Prochamber
CMCP deletes
E85 Tune by Dayton Performance
TR6060 6 speed (was formerly Viper Spec T56)
Spec Stage 3+ with low pedal pressure option
Spec Aluminum Flywheel
Detroit Tru-Trac Diff
4.30 Gears
Lower control arms
BMR Extreme Ant-Roll Bar
BMR K-member
BMR A-arms
BMR radiator support/front swaybar delete
Greg Weld Skinnies
Weld XP 15x9 rears with 275/50/15 Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials

So far the best the car has gone with the T56 and no skinnies up front is a 12.85@106.6mph. I hope to improve on that before dropping the new motor in. I've added skinnies up front and switched to the TR6060 which has a 2.97 1st gear vs. a 2.66 1st on the T56. This should hopefully let me improve on the 1.73 best ever 60' time so far.

I have a 302 stroker being built by Dayton Performance and they are also porting a set of heads that will have oversized valves and custom blower cams with VCT eliminated.

Waiting in the wings to support that are:
Fore Precision Billet Triple Pump Hat with 3 GT(40) pumps, upgraded lines, Fore 3v Fuel rails, MDM Mega Driver FPDM, and a Procharger F1A kit with race intercooler and polished blower. I am going to eventually be running 120 or 160lb injectors to support the car running on E85, along with the injectors will have to go an injector driver since the factory ECU can't run low impedance injectors.

The end goal is ~800rwhp and whatever ET's I can muster trying to put that to the ground with drag radials and the 6 speed. I want to be able to drive to and from the track and only have to worry about changing air pressure in the tires, run the number, re-inflate and head home.


05Yellowgt, did you feel a difference with the K-member and A-arms. How did it effect ride quality? Is it a rougher ride? Did you feel a difference in the weight loss?

[allmotor05gt]

heres my 2005 gt premium 5 speed!! i bought the car back in september so i dont have alot done but heres what i have: C&L racer intake,steeda udp's,jba axlebacks,eibach sportlines,gt500strut mounts,gt500 spoiler,roush window louvers.... also have a yukon 4.30 gear sittin in my garage getting installed very soon.

ran the car at edgewater on 4-17.... it went 13.85 at 105.29 with a 2.2 60 foot time, but it was my first time at the track lol and stock pirrelli tires and 3.55 gear . plans for the car are wheels and tires next,then kooks headers and offroad x pipe,then some cams..... hope u guys enjoy!!!

adam

[allmotor05gt]

cars look great guys

[allmotor05gt]

heres mine.... i have a 2005 gt premium 5 speed, its black on black. only had it since september so not alot done so far but a lil bit!

mods: C&L racer intake with 95mm maf,steeda udp's,jba axlebacks,eibach sportline springs,ingals camber bolts,gt500 strut mounts,gt500 rear spoiler,roush window louvers.... waiting in my garage to go in is a yukon 4.30 gear so hopefully that goes in sooner than later!

best 1/4 mile is 13.85 at 105.23 with a .842 r/t and a 2.320 60 foot (ive only run the car 4 times and they were on stock tires,and stock 3.55 gear)!

adam

[USMCPONY]

heres my 2005 gt premium 5 speed!! i bought the car back in september so i dont have alot done but heres what i have: C&L racer intake,steeda udp's,jba axlebacks,eibach sportlines,gt500strut mounts,gt500 spoiler,roush window louvers.... also have a yukon 4.30 gear sittin in my garage getting installed very soon.

ran the car at edgewater on 4-17.... it went 13.85 at 105.29 with a 2.2 60 foot time, but it was my first time at the track lol and stock pirrelli tires and 3.55 gear . plans for the car are wheels and tires next,then kooks headers and offroad x pipe,then some cams..... hope u guys enjoy!!!

adam

Nice car, glad you found us.

[USMCPONY]

05Yellowgt, did you feel a difference with the K-member and A-arms. How did it effect ride quality? Is it a rougher ride? Did you feel a difference in the weight loss?

Bump for my question

[05yellowgt]

Sorry didn't see your questions before. The ride quality wasn't really affected negatively at all. Along with the A-arms and k-member I also did the front swaybar delete at the same time. It made a nice difference in weight transfer. I did lose a bit of corning ability but nothing like you do in a fox body. If you don't do the swaybar delete then you will notices crisper turn in thanks to the poly bushings or spherical bearings on the a-arms instead of the soft hydro bushings in the stock a-arms.

[05yellowgt]

Oh yeah and the car made 650/605 with a slipping clutch.

[plattner01]

cant wait to see everyones ride in may

[USMCPONY]

Sorry didn't see your questions before. The ride quality wasn't really affected negatively at all. Along with the A-arms and k-member I also did the front swaybar delete at the same time. It made a nice difference in weight transfer. I did lose a bit of corning ability but nothing like you do in a fox body. If you don't do the swaybar delete then you will notices crisper turn in thanks to the poly bushings or spherical bearings on the a-arms instead of the soft hydro bushings in the stock a-arms.

I already have a Steeda light weight radiator support designed to work with the sway bar so Im not going to delete the sway bar. I heard the K member with arms makes the ride a rougher than stock I was curious how much. I want my car to handle like a champ so I think I will make the purchase.

[USMCPONY]

cant wait to see everyones ride in may

Mine wont be there :(

[USMCPONY]

Oh yeah and the car made 650/605 with a slipping clutch.

Thats all you could muster? lol jk. Those are some serious numbers. Becareful with the throttle until you get use to it. I have driven a 580 RWHP Saleen and that thing was SICK!!!

[Walter]

C&L cold air intake, Modular Depot tune, O/R H-pipe, Flowmaster 40 series, 4.10's, Eibach Sportline Springs, Steeda LCA's & UCA, 20" Shelby Razors.

I dont have 1/4 mile times but at MD it was putting down 288hp/305tq at the wheels. I wish I had a blower :drool:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u16/obe80/P4300612-1.jpg



Still #1!

[1992MustangDW]

Still #1!

My favorite also

[PONYGRL]

First off, some pics of my fiance's 06 stage 1 Roush... just waxed and pics taken today :rolleyes:

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43366%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B332ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43372%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C2ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43352%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C6ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43366%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C4ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp4334%3B%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3 A%3E232553%3A39%3B33%3Aot1lsi

[PONYGRL]

:lol:
http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43365%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B342ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43368%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B344ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43369%3Enu%3D3243%3E696%3E842%3EWSNR CG%3D323462%3B3345%3A9nu0mrj

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43368%3Enu%3D3243%3E696%3E842%3EWSNR CG%3D323462%3B2%3C%3B833nu0mrj

[05yellowgt]

Great looking hood and Shaker Scoop. You two have great tastes!!!:bigthumb

[PONYGRL]

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43372%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E339%3E23 2553%3A42%3A452ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43357%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B338ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43364%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C8ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp4334%3B%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3 A%3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C%3Aot1lsi

[PONYGRL]

Great looking hood and Shaker Scoop. You two have great tastes!!!:bigthumb

Thanks. Your stang's badass too. & wait... you haven't seen the best one yet. Look familiar? :cool2:

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt325/ScroungersCC/027-5.jpg

[05yellowgt]

That's an awesome pic! I'm glad it all worked out and it looks like the powder coating on the shaker turned out awesome too!

[PONYGRL]

Yep Kenny did an awesome job! Chris just 2 sets of 18in chrome roush wheels and we have LOTS of stuff that needs installed still...obviously! Hopefully I can get the rest of my roush bodykit painted and put on in a couple wks and he's getting his borla l/t headers put on in a wk and a half so the stangs are coming together.... VERY slowly, but surely :bigthumb

[Foxxx5oh]

i love the louvers on his toy!! great retro look!

[USMCPONY]

Still #1!

This is not a competition!

[USMCPONY]

First off, some pics of my fiance's 06 stage 1 Roush... just waxed and pics taken today :rolleyes:

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43366%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B332ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43372%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C2ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43352%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C6ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp43366%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3A% 3E232553%3A39%3B2%3C4ot1lsi

http://images.photo1.walgreens.com/232323232%7Ffp4334%3B%3Enu%3D3234%3E53%3A%3E2%3A%3 A%3E232553%3A39%3B33%3Aot1lsi


Love the hood!

[USMCPONY]

Yep Kenny did an awesome job! Chris just 2 sets of 18in chrome roush wheels and we have LOTS of stuff that needs installed still...obviously! Hopefully I can get the rest of my roush bodykit painted and put on in a couple wks and he's getting his borla l/t headers put on in a wk and a half so the stangs are coming together.... VERY slowly, but surely :bigthumb

Want a polished KB supercharger? lol Im going to sell mine if your interested. It has around a 1000 miles

[USMCPONY]

That's an awesome pic! I'm glad it all worked out and it looks like the powder coating on the shaker turned out awesome too!

Did you install your K-member yourself? If so how long did it take, any special tools, any suggestions?

[USMCPONY]

What do you think of these? Not bad for 26lbs weighted loss. However Im not sure how the insurance company would like it if I was to get in an accident (Knock on wood) with these on. Do you think they would cover the damages?

http://www.razorsedgemotorsports.com/raedsulirebu.html

http://www.razorsedgemotorsports.com/raedsulifrbu.html

[PONYGRL]

Want a polished KB supercharger? lol Im going to sell mine if your interested. It has around a 1000 miles

Don't tell my fiance... oh wait, his supercharger money is on my finger instead :lol: I don't think either of us will be able to afford superchargers anytime soon.

[05yellowgt]

Did you install your K-member yourself? If so how long did it take, any special tools, any suggestions?
It was installled on a lift. I think it only took a couple of hours. My a-arms got done at the same time so the entire stock assembly was removed at once then the new k-member and a-arms were bolted back in. It's doable with jack stands in the garage, just plan on adding some time.

[05yellowgt]

What do you think of these? Not bad for 26lbs weighted loss. However Im not sure how the insurance company would like it if I was to get in an accident (Knock on wood) with these on. Do you think they would cover the damages?

http://www.razorsedgemotorsports.com/raedsulirebu.html

http://www.razorsedgemotorsports.com/raedsulifrbu.html
I'm probably going to have someone make a set instead of paying $200 a piece for them. Are they worth it for a street car? Probably not.

[mustangcwm]

Don't tell my fiance... oh wait, his supercharger money is on my finger instead :lol: I don't think either of us will be able to afford superchargers anytime soon.

Too late, I wish I had the money

[USMCPONY]

Too late, I wish I had the money

You still have 90 days to take it back lol j/k.

[USMCPONY]

I'm probably going to have someone make a set instead of paying $200 a piece for them. Are they worth it for a street car? Probably not.

I think Im going to get them since my bumpers are off the car. Its a 26 lb. weight savings. Along with a K-member, A-arms and racing seats it will be around 90 lbs.

[USMCPONY]

It was installled on a lift. I think it only took a couple of hours. My a-arms got done at the same time so the entire stock assembly was removed at once then the new k-member and a-arms were bolted back in. It's doable with jack stands in the garage, just plan on adding some time.

This is deff. on my list.

[mustangcwm]

You still have 90 days to take it back lol j/k.

Wish I would have thought about that before now, jk. I think stacey would probably kill me

[USMCPONY]

Wish I would have thought about that before now, jk. I think stacey would probably kill me

She will get over it lol jk. Im sure you did an awesome job with the ring.

[USMCPONY]

Some videos of some nice S197's.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/MUSTANGS-OF-S197FORUMCOM_636514.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S197FORUMCOM-Mustang-Drag_687553.htm

[PONYGRL]

Sweet vids. Unfortunately I probably wont have any $$ to put in the stang for a while... I need to take an exhaust clip since I put on my o/r h pipe... it sounds tons louder than it did w/just my o/r mufflers. Chris' car is coming along as well... Ill tell him to post recent pics and mods on here :bigthumb

[USMCPONY]

Sweet vids. Unfortunately I probably wont have any $$ to put in the stang for a while... I need to take an exhaust clip since I put on my o/r h pipe... it sounds tons louder than it did w/just my o/r mufflers. Chris' car is coming along as well... Ill tell him to post recent pics and mods on here :bigthumb

She will come along eventually. Thanks for the update.

[STEVE_POE]

I'll post a couple. new play toy. almost finished.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/20815492/367319235.jpg

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/20815492/367319237.jpg

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/20815492/367319238.jpg

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/21568521/355076717.jpg

Road race car. saleen kit totally gutted. weighing in at 2600 lbs no driver no balast.

just how fun it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7EhpZ8d16o

[USMCPONY]

I'll post a couple. new play toy. almost finished.

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/20815492/367319235.jpg

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/20815492/367319237.jpg

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/20815492/367319238.jpg

http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL473/10520523/21568521/355076717.jpg

Road race car. saleen kit totally gutted. weighing in at 2600 lbs no driver no balast.

just how fun it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7EhpZ8d16o

That a nice project you have. I have seen that video before. Are you getting the same motor and trans or the 3v in the picture? I want the sequential tranny so bad.

[USMCPONY]

My car is having problems shifting at higher RPMs. I heard a K-Member brace fixes this problem. Does anyone have experience with it and will it work with a after market K-member?

[plattner01]

i put a bmr k member on my 08 , and on my 03 gt as well but both are auto.

[firestang70]

My car is having problems shifting at higher RPMs. I heard a K-Member brace fixes this problem. Does anyone have experience with it and will it work with a after market K-member?

Yes a kmember brace will help this, i still have the stock kmember though.

[USMCPONY]

Yes a kmember brace will help this, i still have the stock kmember though.

How much of a difference did you see when you installed the brace? Did you have a problem shifting at high RPM's? I have been told almost every 2005+ will have this issue if pushing over 450 rwhp.

[USMCPONY]

i put a bmr k member on my 08 , and on my 03 gt as well but both are auto.

What happened to you? I havent seen you on the site in months.

[plattner01]

still here just not a lot to say in the past few months , plus i mostly spent my time shooting, and just ended up staying away from the computer. also just got my car back from md from the engine upgrade/new tune etc. that is the 08 gt the 03 gt is still there with matt working on it. since he messed up his hand i guess it will be awhile.:)

[beefcake]

Yes a kmember brace will help this, i still have the stock kmember though.

i agree, i had one on my 06 gt

[firestang70]

How much of a difference did you see when you installed the brace? Did you have a problem shifting at high RPM's? I have been told almost every 2005+ will have this issue if pushing over 450 rwhp. Big difference. Couldn't shift quick in the upper rpms. No issues now.

[beefcake]

Big difference. Couldn't shift quick in the upper rpms. No issues now.

yeah, he definately needs help there hahahaha

[Walter]

yeah, he definately needs help there hahahaha

Maybe start a "Official cant shift" thread? :lol:

[USMCPONY]

Maybe start a "Official cant shift" thread? :lol:

When are you going to start a "Official I cant get beefcakes nuts out of my mouth thread?"

[Walter]

When are you going to start a "Official usmcpony is a fucking d-bag thread?"

:lol:

Relax chief. I like giving you shit and watching you get beat by Taurus's. :popcorn:

[dsmawd350]

Maybe start a "Official cant shift" thread? :lol:

should be "Official baddest drivers of the S197 " thread

[beefcake]

When are you going to start a "Official I cant get beefcakes nuts out of my mouth thread?"

lmfao! :)

[USMCPONY]

:lol:

Relax chief. I like giving you shit and watching you get beat by Taurus's. :popcorn:

Your right, he did beat me and it wasnt because my car is slower. It was a handful of problems that added up. Its going to be hard for anyone to beat a mid 12 sec. car with 4wd in 40 degree weather.

[USMCPONY]

should be "Official baddest drivers of the S197 " thread

I never claimed to be the best driver. Im having issues with the car. Nothing you would know about because you dont have a S197 or even Mustang for that matter. Ask any S197 owner with over 400 rwhp and they will tell you it is almost impossible to shift over 4K rpm's. Even for someone like you who supposedly knows everything about driving. Arent you in the wrong forum? Here I will help you!

http://www.nkyfba.com/