Vinny Barber's 88mm Turbo 2005 Mustang GT

[KenB]

Some of you may recognize Vinny's car. Last year it had a F1C Procharger on it. After getting alot of the bugs worked out in the car, we didn't really get it down the track very well toward the end of the year. The motor was also due for a freshen up so Vinny decided to make a switch to a Precision 88mm Turbo.

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberweb/images/8.jpg


Here's a picture from last year with the Procharger

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberweb/images/5.jpg


The engine was pulled and sent to BES for the works. An 88mm Turbo was ordered from Precision and a powerglide from TCI Auto. We decided to make it NMRA Drag Radial legal in case he decides to go that route with the car. In addition to the engine, BES handcrafted us an beautiful sheet metal intake.


http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/intake.jpg


Here is the mockup turbo hanging in place

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/mockturbo.jpg

Intake fits under his Steeda hood

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/underhoodintake.jpg

The rack was moved for greater clearance for the turbo kit

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/001.jpg

[KenB]

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For header clearance. You can also see the motor plate template

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/005.jpg

Turbo in place

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/006.jpg

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/007.jpg

Driver's side header
You can also see the motor plates in these pics

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/012.jpg

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/008.jpg

Passenger header

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/009.jpg

[KenB]

Aluminum Downpipe

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/010.jpg

wide shot

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/011.jpg

[PaulFiveOh]

I don't know if your done posting pics but that is too cool!

Nice work! Is it a Dual ball bearing turbo?

[bobtsgt]

looking damn good. Nice placement of the turbo too!

[nskaats]

Look friggin sweet! Keep the pics coming as the work progresses.

I wish I had the cash to start collecting the parts to build my turbo project. I'll have to wait another year.

[kennebellcobra]

Lookin good! Thats alot of progress since I seen it just the other day:bigthumb

[WhiteT]

Nice work! That intake is badass:bigthumb

[Flaming87lx]

I seen the car in person today, TOP NOTCH FABRICATION WORK!!!!! Ken, you guys are awesome. Very nice meeting you today, you have all my business in the future!!! Thanks Troy

[RACEME]

very nice! What is the advantage of an alum. downpipe? Is it just weight or is there more?

[mustangoutlaw]

Nice Very Nice....:bigthumb

[Evil_Capri]

SICK!

[theyallslow]

Very nasty I love it.

[bobtsgt]

very nice! What is the advantage of an alum. downpipe? Is it just weight or is there more?
pretty much weight off the front of the car and easier to handle. I'm thinking about redoing all my pipes in aluminum now.

[WHYTRY]

:rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon::rockon:

[Mike Comp T/A #]

Awesome car! :bigthumb
Ken.....Thanks for tuning the Charger. Hopefully I can get 11.99 on Saturday.
Mike


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[KenB]

Awesome car! :bigthumb
Ken.....Thanks for tuning the Charger. Hopefully I can get 11.99 on Saturday.
Mike


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No problem! I hope we gave you those few extra ponies to get you there.

[Walter]

:rockon:

[BMF_RACING]

pretty much weight off the front of the car and easier to handle. I'm thinking about redoing all my pipes in aluminum now.


lol Go ask Gary Rowe about Alum DP's. They fold up under high temp & pressure. He's had personal experences with that on a customers car (twin 88mm Stang). May work with proper brackets added to the DP to support it well off frame/tubing. Alum. seems to get weak under excessive heat. Thinker the better but more weight. Then again, there's always TI. :bigthumb

[JIMS SVT]

Its made of 11 ga aluminum throughout the whole dp.No 14 ga on it at all.That should help some.

[bobtsgt]

11ga should do the trick. I'm thinking about doing some 11ga out the back for about a foot or so then use 14ga for the rest.

[BMF_RACING]

Ken,

btw sweet looking work as always. :bigthumb :bigthumb

[Silver Bullet]

That is a Sweet Ride. Nice work.

[mustanginky]

amazingly badass!

[beefcake]

that thing should fly this year!

[KenB]

Hot side is done. Waiting on throttle body to finish cold side.

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/13.jpg

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/14.jpg

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http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/17.jpg

[Maximus]

Jim does Outstanding work!!:bigthumb

[KenB]

More of Jim's handy work

Cold side is done

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/18.jpg

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/19.jpg

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/20.jpg

Now we fit the tranny, pull everything out of engine bay. Refinish, paint and reassemble.

[Walter]

:drool: Nice!

[Black03SVT]

Holy shit!!!!! Cant wait to see what that thing puts down:eek: Nice work guys:bigthumb

[KenB]

Holy shit!!!!! Cant wait to see what that thing puts down:eek: Nice work guys:bigthumb


We're hoping to break 500. :lol:

[347sc]

We're hoping to break 500@2000rpm. :lol:


fixed it for you.:bigthumb

[95turbocharged]

that is some nice clean work!! cant wait to see it done!!

[kennebellcobra]

Looks great but I don't think the masking tape is going to hold up:lol::HYF:

[Black03SVT]

We're hoping to break 500. :lol:

500 x 2 :cool1:

[KenB]

Looks great but I don't think the masking tape is going to hold up:lol::HYF:



That's just for the mockup. We'll use duct tape on the final product. :bigthumb

[PonymanfiveO]

:lol:

[BMF_RACING]

That's just for the mockup. We'll use duct tape on the final product. :bigthumb

Duct tape will work/fix anything :bigthumb :bigthumb

[Silver Bullet]

Now that is some sweet looking work!:bigthumb

[DeckerEnt]

Duct tape will work/fix anything :bigthumb :bigthumb

Gorilla tape is good too. And if you mess it up, wd-40 takes it right off. LOL
Don't forget the hubba bubba body filler around the holes in the firewall.
Saw the car yesterday. Looks just plain Mean!!
Keith

[pegasus]

ill take two to go

[KenB]

It's alive, started it yesterday. Hope to have it on the dyno tomorrow for some low boost pulls.



Ken

[ibstrokin]

Sweet, That car is badass

[KenB]

Here is a quick startup vid and a few revs

http://www.modulardepotvideos.com/video_detail.php?mId=6401

[DeckerEnt]

Congrats!!!! That thing has a little lope to it. Sweet!!
Keith

[firestang70]

That sounds nasty. My car desperately needs a turbo!

[PonymanfiveO]

worlds first 1000hp 3 valve modular???

hmmmmm.

[kennebellcobra]

The day I don't stop up:( Can't wait to see what it makes on the dyno:eek:

[MADMOD]

I am not going to lie. That car gives me wood:bigthumb

[kennebellcobra]

I am not going to lie. That car gives me wood:bigthumb

The wind gives you wood:lol:

[JIMS SVT]

Any #'s yet?

[NaomiDstangLvr]

Pretty bad ass! ;)

[NaomiDstangLvr]

The wind gives you wood:lol:
:lol: Ew! :lol:

[R825OH]

Looks rockin, nice work!!!

[Mustard]

man that is sooooo cool

[kennebellcobra]

Got to hear this today and I've never heard a mod motor that thumped like that:rockon:I thought it was a pushrod motor by the sound:lol: Can't wait to see the #'s

[PonymanfiveO]

made some pretty decent numbers today with only a few pounds of boost and hardly any tuning. Once Ken has time to sit down and tune on it some and can up the boost it should be scary! It did sound hella cool! :rockon:

[KenB]

This is on 18-19 lbs. of boost with alot more to come. But before we push it anymore, we are going to take it to the track.

Numbers are 913/706

This is with a stock computer and is still drive by wire. Even using stock coil packs.

Don't forget that this is through a powerglide tranny and with slicks on it.

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberbay.jpg


Graph is done with speed rather than RPM because I didn't get a good RPM trace on that pull.

http://www.modulardepot.com/barber19psiweb.jpg

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberside.jpg

[Black03SVT]

OMG!!!! :eek: Whats it going to be like when you turn it up to 30lbs?????? When you going to the track???

[kennebellcobra]

I can't image what it's going to do on 30lbs...18-19 and almost hit the 1000 mark:eek::rockon:

[KenB]

Thanks guys.


Also wanted to thank Jimmy and Big Mike. They built a master piece.

[craigels]

We should of had the video camera out for the last pull! I was amazed at the difference in temperature of the charge air plumbing pre and post cooler!


Craig

[Maximus]

Very cool!:bigthumb

[firestang70]

Shoot that ain't nothing!!!! Holy crap Ken what do you feed that thing young women and children?

[beefcake]

thats killer brother !

[93hulk]

Great work guys. I cant wait to that thing at the track.

[JIMS SVT]

Thanks guys.


Also wanted to thank Jimmy and Big Mike. They built a master piece.

No problem...cant wait to see that thing once it gets the powa to the ground.

[DeckerEnt]

Did this thing hit 1000 HP to the wheels yet?
Keith

[KenB]

Not going to turn it up anymore just yet. It's built for the track, not the dyno. :)

Took it to the track today for some shakedown passes at 14 psi. All things considered it went pretty good. Never made a full pass but made a pretty good 1/8 mile hit for such low boost. 6.31@109 We had an electrical gremlin and the tach wasn't working. So it was short shifted 700 cause he had to use the stock tach and it's tough to see. Going to get all the little things that popped up on the first day out taken care of and will be turing it up after we get back from Atco. I'll post updates when it goes back to the track.


Here's a video of a dyno pull and a pass
http://www.modulardepotvideos.com/video/6720

[beefcake]

looking good!

[jlt2006]

That car looks and runs great. Cant wait to see a full run.

[vinnybarber]

i want to thank mike for teaming me up with modular depot and ken. it has been a 3yr project to get to this point. it all started with another shop that didn't want to give it the time or effort to get it to this point. ken told me tony bishoff was the man to build the motor i needed to do this. so again thanks to ken,mike and everyone at modular depot whos names i forget. going for 8's.

[93 coupe]

Looks good Vinny! :bigthumb

[KenB]

i want to thank mike for teaming me up with modular depot and ken. it has been a 3yr project to get to this point. it all started with another shop that didn't want to give it the time or effort to get it to this point. ken told me tony bishoff was the man to build the motor i needed to do this. so again thanks to ken,mike and everyone at modular depot whos names i forget. going for 8's.

Oh no, he found us! Glad to see you sign up Vinny. I'll call you later, think we found the one little electrical gremlin. Easy fix.


Ken

[KenB]

Main goal for the evening was to get Vinny his NHRA license. First pass we were expecting to see about 14-15 psi. As soon as it came up on the brake, I could tell it was really wound up. The car launched violently and made it about 100 feet and it sounded like he lifted. Met him down at the end of the tranck and it blew the pipe going to the throttle body off and bent it bad. Checked the logs and the boost controller failed so the gate was stuck closed and it probably hit way over 20lbs for a few seconds. I thought we were done at that point but we got the pipe bent back and decided to make some passes on just the spring in the gate which is about 10 psi. Make a couple of half passes which is how you have to do it for your license and the car was a handful. The track is not the best and we have some other work to do on the suspension. We were able to rig up the wastegate and get it at a fixed 15 psi. We were down to our last two passes and pressed for time. Vinny launched the car and had to lift 3 times and still mananged a 9.54@141. I was shocked considered he had to lift 3 times and we were only at 15 psi. 60' on that pass was a 1.37 which is pretty good considering the track. We didn't have much time and had to make one more hit. Left it pretty much the same setup but tried the other lane. Still had to pedal it but not as bad and managed a 9.42@148! I couldn't believe it. And this run only had a 1.46 60'. And also with no boost controller.

Here are the incrementals

1.46
4.00
6.11@117
7.90
9.42@148


On a clean hit with a good 60' on a good track I would say that is a low 9 at only 15psi! I can't wait to turn it up on a good track! Car will be at the NMRA Columbus race so hopefully we can turn it up there.

Here is a video of the pass

http://www.modulardepotvideos.com/video/6790





Congrats Vinny!

[Maximus]

I saw the first run...TWEEKED all up off the line!:eek::bigthumb

What class is he gonna run in Cbus?

[USMCPONY]

Hey Ken is that car going to KOS (King of the street) in bowling green. Ky? I know Justin Burcham will be there since he is the defending champion and I would love to see that thing take the title this year. I think that will get you alot of publicity for the Mustang crowd as well.

[KenB]

I saw the first run...TWEEKED all up off the line!:eek::bigthumb

What class is he gonna run in Cbus?

Modular Muscle, lol.



Shawn,

Not sure if it would qualify for KOS. While this thing could be a 'street car' it really isn't right now. Really all it needs probably is an altenator to make it on the street though.

Either way, Justin holds the 3v/stock electronics record and we are going for that. We are almost there and haven't even turned it up yet so this should be the quickest 3v every very soon.

I wonder what the all time Ford stock electronics record is.


Ken

[DeckerEnt]

When you guys set your sights on something, you don't stop till you get it. Congrats!!
Keith

[USMCPONY]

Modular Muscle, lol.



Shawn,

Not sure if it would qualify for KOS. While this thing could be a 'street car' it really isn't right now. Really all it needs probably is an altenator to make it on the street though.

Either way, Justin holds the 3v/stock electronics record and we are going for that. We are almost there and haven't even turned it up yet so this should be the quickest 3v every very soon.

I wonder what the all time Ford stock electronics record is.


Ken

Im not sure about the all time record. I would consider taking it to KOS. That would be a huge victory for Modular Depot and the winner gets a full article about the car. People will notice and hopefully you will be the top Mustang tuner. People start to notice when something of this scale gets alot of publicity. Along with breaking records of course.

[KenB]

Took Vinny's 88mm turbo car back to the track today. Our track is total shit, so it was a challenge to say the least. Also, we were testing 1/4 mile but it was an 1/8 mile race so prep beyond the 1/8 didn't happen. DA was 3200 feet. Most promising thing today was we went 5.81@119 pedaling it at 5.36 into the run. Got loose around 1000' and had to lift. Went 9.50@115. That was on 17 psi. Hard to really guess what that pass would have been without the issues, but I'd say an easy 8.

We are continuing to have issues with our boost controller. Made one pass only 13 psi by mistake and went 9.62@142. I believe this is the only full pass on the car. That means no lifting.

On the last pass of the night decided to try it at 19psi. Didn't like that at all. Really twisted the car up, we're going to have to make some adjustments to the chassis before it will handle that much power off the hit. Once it can handle it, a full pass on 19 psi is going to be sick, let alone 25+

Definitely learned alot on it today. We are going to swap out the MSD boost controller for the AMS-1000. I think we should be in good shape to run a 8 at NMRA Columbus.

Got it all on video and will upload some today or tomorrow.

[PonymanfiveO]

Hell yea!

Vinny is the man!!!

[beefcake]

schweeet

[USMCPONY]

Hey Ken, When are you going to post up my Dyno video on your website?

[KenB]

Hey Ken, When are you going to post up my Dyno video on your website?


Uploading it now. Will post it in your thread on MD when it's done.


Here is Vinny's passes.
http://www.modulardepotvideos.com/video/6882

[MADMOD]

Once you guys get that thing to a good track it is going to fly! Can someone say fastest 3V in the Country:D

[kennebellcobra]

:wstupid::rockon:

[RHecox]

Once you guys get that thing to a good track it is going to fly! Can someone say fastest 3V in the Country:D

Why yes I can.... JPC Has the fastest 3v in the country. Thanks for asking!

:tongue2:

[MADMOD]

From the way things are looking not for long:D

[kennebellcobra]

Why yes I can.... JPC Has the fastest 3v in the country. Thanks for asking!

:tongue2:

After Columbus I think it will be had instead of has:tongue2:

[Timido]

Oh no first bowling and now racing too!

[Maximus]

After Columbus I think it will be had instead of has:tongue2:

they should do a shoot out.:bigthumb

[USMCPONY]

Uploading it now. Will post it in your thread on MD when it's done.


Here is Vinny's passes.
http://www.modulardepotvideos.com/video/6882


Thank you

[craigels]

Vinny Barber went 8s this weekend... Ken has video.

First 3 valve at 150 mph (155) & Fastest SINGLE power adder 3 valve.

I'll let Ken or Vinny fill in the details!



Craig

[DeckerEnt]

Congrats guys!!!!!
Keith

[Timido]

Please keep to the topic. The trash talk is in the Whippin room.

[KenB]

Please keep to the topic. The trash talk is in the Whippin room.


Thank You

[Tommy@JPC]

This is on 18-19 lbs. of boost with alot more to come. But before we push it anymore, we are going to take it to the track.

Numbers are 913/706

This is with a stock computer and is still drive by wire. Even using stock coil packs.

Don't forget that this is through a powerglide tranny and with slicks on it.

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberbay.jpg


Graph is done with speed rather than RPM because I didn't get a good RPM trace on that pull.

http://www.modulardepot.com/barber19psiweb.jpg

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberside.jpg


Sorry Vinny for yesterday. Again congrats it's a bad ride and it was running great at C-Bus. Ken and I need to keep ourselves under control. You would think we would be tackling each other at the races but we like to vent on each other after. Good Luck and see you in B.G. for the match race.:cool2:

[vinnybarber]

thats ok tommy ididn't take it personal. competition what make the world go round

[KenB]

Ken and I need to keep ourselves under control. You would think we would be tackling each other at the races but we like to vent on each other after.


That's why I've been staying off stangcrazy then you followed me here. Last time I tried to talk to you, you didn't seem to receptive. No worries, it is what it is.


Ken

[Tommy@JPC]

That's why I've been staying off stangcrazy then you followed me here. Last time I tried to talk to you, you didn't seem to receptive. No worries, it is what it is.


Ken


Let me just clarify I didn't follow you over here.

Carry on.

[beefcake]

:popcorn: :popcorn:

[vinnybarber]

justin responed. race is on in bg

[Maximus]

justin responed. race is on in bg

Loser has to wear Winners shop shirt the rest of the week-end??:eek::bigthumb

[Silver Bullet]

Sounds like a good bet, more of a pride thing.... let r rip guys!:tongue2:

[KenB]

Vinny got a new item that's gonna look great in the winners circle. Now we can turn up the booooost out of the hole!

http://www.modulardepot.com/barberturbo/beadlocks.jpg

[Timido]

Those would look good with some true 10.5s on it Saturday at the Valley.

[KenB]

Those would look good with some true 10.5s on it Saturday at the Valley.

Already in the plans. See you there?

[Markcore]

Those wheels are sick!!!

[beefcake]

subscribing

[Mustard]

I frickin love the wheels

[PonymanfiveO]

holy cow!

look what I just found on my laptop!!!:eek::lol:



This is from the parking lot in Bowling Green NMRA race circa '05

[KenB]

Got the car done and took it to Bowling Green for some shakedown passes.

Found out the converter isn't right for the new found power but its still damn fast!


All over the track it managed a 8.45@163


Here are the timeslips from tonight. Sorry no video.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2483/3602590474_47f4f486f5_b.jpg

[Walter]

Shit damn!

[firestang70]

Thats all you guys got???? j/k One word.... WOW.

[kennebellcobra]

First 7 second 3 valve....hmmm

[beefcake]

congrats!!!

thats moving

[kennebellcobra]

Looks like Tommy and them guys at PB&J better be stepping it up.lol